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  1. In one corner way over there something approximating Jordan Peterson is calling out to every one to “clean your room.”

    And in the other corner Slovak Zezik is telling his classic joke about the crazy man who is committed because he thinks he is a corn corneal. After lengthy therapy the doctors are convinced the man is cured and he’s released. Immediately the man comes running back in terrified. Doctors ask we thought you were cured. The man replies that he knows that he isn’t a corn corneal but the Chicken across the road doesn’t know that I’m not a corneal of corn and might eat him.

    Of course I’m referring to the great debate between Slovak Zezik and Jordan Peterson aired 2 days ago about Socialism vs Capitalism and what is happiness. Some spoilers so look away now.

    Ok so, Peterson would say clean your room and the crazy man is well aware of his illusions but the tragedy is that Zezik would say that what we need is a better chicken. The difficulty with this approach is that Peterson and Zezik miss how our current chicken has taken on a material rather than an ideological form. What both Peterson and Zezik miss is the man, the mental patient might very well get eaten by the chicken.

    Both Zizek and Jordan Peterson’s rejection and misreading of Marx Labour Force Theory of Value (and there is a stronger case for Peterson’s rejecting Marx since his whole reason is to reject socialism) is a consequence of those failures to understand how the chicken will eat us.

    The trick to our mediating ideological structures and how they work, is how they give form to our otherwise directionless desires. An ideological figure like a Politician or a businessman is a fantasy figure or a chicken is a supplement for an otherwise meaningless reality. Peterson and Zezik are correct up to a point but what they fail to see is the supplements – the oppositional supplements to the celebrated ideas in our heads are not merely ideas in our heads but, and they aren’t even a structure for our desires, but are the very structures that guide our productive and material practices.

    The real ideological supplements is not identical to one object A which could be a can of Coke to supplement our diet and is not an objective cause of our desires, but is rather an objective cause in the world that we relate to whether we desire rotten teeth and obesity or not.

    Both Peterson and Zezik use ideological constructs as they are, RATHER than looking at them for what they are. An ideological distraction from work, and something we may take up in our leisure time. But I, on the other hand imagine material goods and wants not just as a mere leisure activity but is becoming central to society in the same way as the commodity is central to today’s society. Commodities aren’t just useful items people want or use, they are social control mechanisms because commodities determine what we do. It’s complicated but if we didn’t work for the stuff we needed then we could play video games to survive and instead there wouldn’t be any commodities.

    Again both Peterson and Zezik imagine that society and particularly the left is ideological because we are living in an augmented reality that can be used by a manipulative population for political projects that reinforce society as it is and protects against the sort of organising that might lead to redistribution policies, banking reform, universal healthcare, labour organising and a suite of other undefined policies that seem unobtainable under capitalism. Where I would argue is that there’s a distinction between ideology and what Marx called a fetish.

    The capitalist system is similar to an augmented reality, but it is one where the fantasies of ideology support social relationships and has vast and deep material consequences. To some extinct democratic social reforms really are impossible under capitalism

    In his book “Zezik and the Clinic” Alliot Rosenstock writes that liberation is not one that can brake free of ideology or fantasy – So we need chickens – we need politicians and business people’s that own and operate and performs the functions of capital. Rosenstock asks:

    “But if one is doomed to never find what is real or what one really wants then where does liberation really come in?”

    The answer then surely is to discover that we can change the circle that we are living in. But this new chicken will have to be more than a mere ideological chicken. In order to break free the shackles of capitalism we will have to find more than a totalitarian figure to guide us. We will have to do more than imagine utopian cities under the sea. We will instead have to find a new bases for our production, a new video game that will produce and reproduce the things we need in order to survive and thrive as a species.

  2. Excellent case for making defamation laws cover grouoscas well as individuals. When you look at it you have to ask yourself why it hasnt happdned up til now

    It might make certain people think twice beford engaging in hate sppeech

  3. Sam – re: “In his book “Zezik and the Clinic” Alliot Rosenstock writes that liberation is not one that can ‘brake free’ of ideology or fantasy.”
    Please clarify – i.e., do you mean brake (as in a car & etc., to avoid a collision, or break (as in broken cup, window & etc.)? Or is it Rosenstock’s “fault”?

    I am often confused by commenters writing “there” (place/position) when to me, what is meant is “their” (possessive). There are many similar examples in commenters’ writings, such that I wonder did they really learn English during the years of their education/schooling? I do not like to waste my time – I am disabled/get exhausted rapidly due to Multiple Sclerosis. I spend hours daily reading research about health/wellness, which I then forward to others who are interested, but don’t have the same amount of time to research, as I presently do.
    Thanks for your clarification.

    1. I mean spell check, predictive text, character limits., touch screen, distractions, grammar nazi. Take your pick.

  4. So you engage in the distractiion of hate speech vs free speech … rather discuss economic and social justice issues?

    Of course you do note rising inequality with the neo-liberal global market regime is one reason for rise of insecurity and its refuge in nationalism and its associated rhetoric.

    Have you not noted the irony that the model for the white race nation populist is Putin and he is encouraging the model abroad to foster disunity in the NATO realm? Little wonder Trump the isolationist (for some decades), albeit an economic power bully was their preference. And little wonder he and Putin are in so many ways colleagues in arms.
    Trump would appreciate that this movement he is part of denies oxygen to a left wing response to the emergence of an unwanted global elite – the super wealthy “1%”, the international technocrats and corporate management class, the security apparatus and the media gatekeepers.

    I am a little wary that hate speech legislation is just going to empower the panopticon society being developed for the control of the population, and thus serve the cause of preventing populism (including left wing, environment action, making deep state transparent and accountable, banking reform, anti-corruption campaigns, fair elections etc) challenging the establishment.

    1. So you engage in the distractiion of hate speech vs free speech … rather discuss economic and social justice issues?

      Yeah.

      I’ve only been commenting on economic and social justice issues since I was 15…

      And blogging on economic and social justice issues since July 2011…

      But I probably won’t be devoting much more time to this issue.

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