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  1. You are wrong in fact and usefulness on the Winter Energy Payment.

    Most people on Super have little other income. So your assessment, that only 100,000 need this is way off base.

    And if you do not see why making it universal is politically astute, as in making it difficult for National to remove it … . National will not even contest an election with a policy to means test the Winter Energy Payment – given the principle of it will offend their own voters and make NZF’s day.

    Thus the 400-500,000 who really do need it are safe, thanks to their approach, rather than your own.

    1. SPC I am not asking it to be means tested– just made into an opt in no questions asked.

      A small fraction of superannuitants are in fuel poverty.

      1. Why make it more difificult for the majority who need it by requiring anything of them?

        Next you will be wanting free health care for children to be opt in because not all people need help afford it.

        1. Opting out maximizes the efficiency of the superannuation programme. So if you wanted to work in retirement then you’d be getting your taxes back in super payments which kind of defeats the purpose of saving for your own retirement.

  2. I was surprised to learn recently that people who turn 60 and have a wife or husband over 65, are entitled to the retirement pension, not in full but a percentage of the amount that people over 65 get. I can’t really see the rationale in that. Seems a bit unfair to everyone else who has to wait till they are 65.

    The only reason I can think that this situation exists is that when the retirement pension age was lifted from 60, but up to 65, it was a way to not lose too many votes a the next election. But that is just a wild guess.

    1. The younger partner qualifying was from the era when many wives did not work and were supported off their partners income.

      1. I hear this bullshit argument all the time that the welfare state atomised the nuclear family by taking resources away from the parents to give to kids who shouldn’t be having children which is complete bullshit.

        Television since the 50’s have been bringing up kids trying to sell GI Joe war machines to boys and homemaking to girls. That’s one part of the global debt narrative that pushes the ideology of indebtedness and mortgages.

  3. The page here shows the rationale for the changes is individual entitlement – which will make signing up easier.

    https://www.msd.govt.nz/documents/about-msd-and-our-work/newsroom/factsheets/budget/factsheet-super-and-vp-modernisation-2019.pdf

    The savings forecast will be to that charged to Super. However where the younger spouse is not working they will be able to claim unemployment benefit. In cases where the age qualifying partner has little other income apart from super, then there will be a net cost to the government. Where the person over 65 has other income (from work or savings) a lower net cost.

    Largely the real savings to government occur where either or both the qualifying partner and younger spouse are working.

    The greatest cost would occur where they begin to pay the younger spouse as a carer for their older partner.

    1. Treasury> government sponsored work programmes> taxes.

      The total amount of money circulating in the economy doesn’t change because parliament gaurentees the kiwi dollar. But if the government quits pumping money into the economy through work programmes the national income will drop.

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