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  1. Yes I agree pensioners should not be penalised if their partner has an overseas pension entitlement. But what about pensioners that hide their assets in trusts or gift it to their children and then the state has to pay for them to be cared for, is this right to put this burden on the next generation who may not receive a pension or care or help. These are issues we need to discuss and debate now while we still have some time with our baby boomers ageing. Is it right for people to protect and hide their wealth when many received lots of state help including pensions, medical and travelling subsidies, free tertiary education, help to buy affordable homes etc And I don’t want to hear we worked hard so we deserve to be looked after for ever OR we paid our taxes and so have many others this argument does not wash anymore because they did get state help that may be gone soon as it is not sustainable. NZers need to be fair minded about this and debate it rationally.

    1. Michelle
      That is another big big issue that has been ignored. One of the worst things an older person can do is alienate their assets too early to circumvent the income and asset test. When the time comes for long term care they get the barest minimum standard while the beneficiaries of their generosity have forgotten all about it

  2. That is one major issue with our social policy. I am also rather furious that those who were most in need of an increase in total benefit income, and who relied on the talk by the government that the increase in Accommodation Supplement would help them meet their living costs, were actually denied an increase after all.

    As the criteria for getting Temporary Additional Support (capped also at 30 percent of the base benefit rate) and for getting Special Benefit (those few who still get that one) has not been changed, those persons getting these top ups had the increase effective as of 1 April taken off them again, once they were up for review for TAS or SB.

    Talk about a perverted kind of social security system in NZ, supposedly one ‘of the best’. At least, so it seems, the Winter Energy Payment will not affect other supplements of benefits.

    1. But why should those who don’t get NZS because of the absurd spousal provision be denied the WEP when others far wealthier can have it as of right

  3. My wife and I were in this position also. Prior to my wife being elligible for NZ Super, her part UK State Pension was deducted from my NZ Super. We actually did not disagree with this as we felt that we should have no advantage over New Zealanders who did not receive a UK Pension.

    However, and here comes a ridiculous injustice, the Act was framed in such a manner that IRD viewed us both individually. So, they treated my wife as fully receiving her UK Pension and, adding that to her nurses salary, taxed it at the top rate. As for me, IRD was not obliged to appreciate that the money I lost (some $10,000) was identical to my wife’s gain. They just taxed me according to my new earning level, which happened to be at the lowest rate, sine my only earnings were my NZ Super plus a little savings interest. Overall therefore for no increase in our joint income, we paid roughly an extra $3000 in tax every full year for a period of three years.

    Of course had my earnings been high, there could easily have been no loss (because my tax saving on the $10,000 could have equalled my wife’s extra tax) overall. So, as with many circumstances, the less well off you are, the more you get punished!

    I spent huge efforts writing to DSW, my local Labour MP, the Commissioner responsible for retirees, even Winston Peters – all to no avail. I was particularly disappointed in Kris Fa’foi and will never vote for him, even when voting for the Labour Party – he seemed bored by the issue (not a glamour issue!), and any actions taken were by his assistant who was the son of friend of ours. Needless to say National Ministers responsible for DSW and IRD were totally dismissive. One can easily come to despise senior civil servants and politicisns of all stripes.

  4. Isn’t the economies of scale factor acknowledged through the living alone payment? Btw, what was the ground of discrimination the plaintiffs in the HRRT case were claiming? Was it income status? I can imagine crown law getting pretty inventive when arguing about an appropriate comparator in a case like this. Typical crown law. There’s a good case for changing the HRA around this, especially after the Trevethick case.

  5. The Ministry of Social Development has developed a vocabulary specifically to suit a purpose of it’s own, Section 70 entrapment. In it’s lexicon the following words all mean the same,
    spouse or spousal, marriage, civil union, relationship, de facto, and partner.
    For example, if you admit to the Ministry that you and a partner live in the same dwelling, they will say that you have a spouse. This is nonsense because the word spouse has only one meaning and that is marriage while a partnership could apply to any number of relationships.
    However, under the Section 70 rort, you have just exposed yourself to the risk of a heavy “spousal deduction” penalty. That could mean that you lose part or even all of your pension entitlement. Why has this coalition government which purports to have a social conscience, failed to take urgency to correct this wretched law?

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