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  1. Tautoko to all of that. Good that the burning of the flag ‘hurt some people.’ And in total agreement with you concerning the wishy washy stand of Labour, Māori Party and the Greens. National Puurrfftt! That John Key needs to ….awf! He’ll do nothing.
    People, with no means of escape are being slaughtered. We’re so divorced from the reality of it we can’t truly understand the horror. SO while people march people are upset because of the burning of a flag. So be it.

    1. yeah I think the reductive distracting narratives used by the media are a joke but they are also dangerous because really they spread disinformation which can prove to be deadly because people side with the fucking people doing the killing… really? FFS

  2. Although I thought I’d never say a word in defence of Paul Henry – and let me just spell out that I definitely disagree with his views on Israel-Palestine and the protest…

    …. I think some of his ignorance about Parihaka is to do with education in this country and the view of history we’re all sold. I myself had little understanding of the so-called ‘Maori wars’ until I was perhaps in my early 20’s, and even then it’s still pretty superficial. Those wars are like the big dark secret no one in this country talks about – they’re not taught in schools, and of course there’s no mention in the media… so most people have no idea. I suspect, sadly, Paul Henry would have been talking to a largely agreeing audience; I’d be surprised if many NZers are aware of the things Natalie Robertson discusses.

    I guess this isn’t really a defence of Paul Henry other than to say his ignorance of Parihaka is certainly the norm.

    1. That is why I wanted to write this blog to point out many people should feel ashamed about their lack of education around our indigenous history, this lack of education results in so many white people brushing important historical acts such as Parihaka. We need to realise our white privilege seems to afford us the comfort of ignorance. But that ignorance silences others.

      1. “Becoming a racist is painless, but unbecoming a racist is excruciatingly painful.”

        This rang so true for me…almost to the point, again, of the excruciating pain referred to.

        Three years ago, at the at of 51, I undertook a paper at Unitec, Te Tiriti o Waitangi. Oh my goodness, what an eye opening experience that was. Having to ‘unlearn’ everything I had been led to believe through my life, viewed through pakeha eyes…I literally hung my head in shame at times. But oh how liberating to learn the truth and how much better I feel understanding it as it truly was. It was a huge step towards learning and understanding what really went on and allowing me to see things from both sides of the “story”.

        This person that stands before you today is one who is much more compassionate and tolerant…and the freedom from the shackles of lies is as I stated above, truly liberating, not only for me but for all the people I now come into contact with of all races.

        It is time the true history of this country was taught in-depth.

      2. Also alongside the horrors of Parihaka is what happened at Rangioawhia, just out of Te Awamutu. Very few know what happened there, another NZ historical shameful secret.

    2. The Maori Wars are definitely part of the Y12 History curriculum. Guess it depends on the school whether or not they choose to study this module, including the events at & after Parihaka (the ongoing detentions and deportations without trial).

  3. One of the things the flag of a democracy stands for is the right to deface and burn it. People who criticise people for defacing or burning a flag are not defending the values of liberal democracy but those of communist, fascist, Islamist and other dictatorships.

    1. Hmmm, I think an Islamist or other theocratic state would be more concerned with burning the Koran, bible, etc, than a flag, Matthew. With the exception of the American Empire, theocratic states don’t seem to put that much stock in a piece of gaudy-coloured fabric…

    2. It’s a smoke-screen Mattie Hooton, syrupper of the right-wing and you know it. Lots of us have got your number.

      Voters are pissed off National run a deficit of $60-$90 billion and create a supercity – get Luigi Wewegi and Paulino Gambino to out Len Brown

      Voters are pissed off National do a few backdoor deals with Warner Brothers – enter Kim Dotcom.

      Voters are pissed off National spends money on corporate welfare – change the flag.

      Voters see Murray McCully lets a diplomat rapist go home – get Paul Henry to ask a female nanotechnology professor if she has sex with a billionaire?

      Voters are told by Slater that a Greenie honey-pot gets molested – change the money and get Slater on Seven Sharp.

      Voters are pissed off with Christchurch and Campbell Live tells us all about Christchurch AND the All Blacks won’t play in Samoa – get the All Blacks to play in Samoa (stuff off Chch whingers).

      Voters are pissed off with Murray McCully – parade Colin Craig as an alternative.

      Voters are pissed off with Gerry Brownlee throwing his weight around at the airport – Key on the cover of Rugby News.

      People think Coiln’s a fruit-loop – get the other older Maori fruit-loop Winston back and kick Colin to the kerb.

      Colmar-Brunton inflate National by 6-23%, use race-based politics as a diversion by ACT and Winston.

      It’s Totalitarian Politics 101 Hooton and the voters are being played and manipulated by big business intersts and their croney mates.

      Hooton is the voice of moderation in the middle? Or a Slater in themiddle in disguise (but slightly thinner with a better fitting suit? Same message, different audience and medium. But the Tory shit message is still the same.

      Doesn’t matter how hard Hooton polishes the National turd…… it’s still a turd…no matter how middle class Hooton looks.

      But at least he isn’t as much like Helen Clarke, as Michelle Boag appears. The more Boag appears on Q&A, the more likely the left will win on 20th September.

  4. A passionately, appropriately, eloquently written piece which really does put things in perspective, thanks Chloe.

    I was standing right next to the young guys who burned the flags at the first Gaza march – it was unexpected, out of the blue, and literally lasted seconds (just enough time for photos to be taken). I am generally very anti flag burning. In this instance, after a completely peaceful and respectful rally, I was actually quite relieved that this was the only “bad mark” apart from the idiot with the inappropriate swastika flag.

    It was an emotional day. A few young guys let off some steam by burning flags, against the wishes of the exemplorary young organisers. In most countries, in similar circumstances, there would be riots, petrol bombs, property damage and barricades across the streets !

    I used to despair of our press – always accentuating the negative, blowing things out of proportion and ignoring the real issues, but now I just let it roll over me – expect it to happen, and you’re not going to be so disappointed ! I look to social media, to blogs like this, to participation in protests and rallies now to get the message across, and I really think it’s finally starting to work.

    Kudos and respect to those who have spent o much time organising and promoting the numerous rallies that have taken place recently. It’s been very uplifting rubbing shoulders with so many dedicated and inspiring people who front up so enthusuastically in any weather ! A final rap for our Cops who I must say have earned my respect with how maturely, professionally and sympathetically they have conducted themselves at these events, and helped to keep people calm and safe.

    The only negative note for me is this – where the fuck were Labour at both of the Gaza marches ?? Are they so media-battered and browbeaten that they are now SO scared to “put a foot wrong”?

    Are they SO obsessed with not upsetting the “middle of the road” voters that they are now playing it ultra-safe, to the extent that people aren’t even sure what they DO stand for, if it’s not the poor, underpriveleged, downtrodden and oppressed ?

    As an “always-voted-Labour” person, I’m really pissed about this. Grow some balls, FFS! If you’re going to be caned by the press for whatever you do, which you will be, then the least you can do is show some back-bone, stick to your principles and go down fighting, SURELY ??

    Who knows, if you actually up your game, and perform as well as the other left parties are, we might even win the election, and without NZ First, if they go AWOL by any chance ! 🙁

    1. yeah I agree Labour not turning up was disappointing of course, but predictable. Mana was there of course and two candidates from the internet party turned up for at least the start of it, i do not think they marched? tbh that kind of thing pisses me off a bit but I guess this is because I have been attending protests since I was 16. I just like the connection and passion at protests. I have no issues with flags being burnt, I understand why people do it. Body were not burnt at the protest so people need to get a reality check. Paul Henry is a racist twat fuck whose ignorance might be comforting for him, but he silences so many with his sheer stupidity.

  5. Chloe – well written and 100% on the nail.

    If journalism’s aim is (supposedly) to get to the truth of matters, then Paul Henry’s well-practiced prejudice is the mirror-opposite. His role appears to be to reaffirm prejudice and ignorance rather than question the status quo.

    Not knowing the events and significance of Parihaka, in our own history, reveals a man who is deeply flawed and who is supremely comfortable in his artificial world-view.

    Henry is the clearest example of Churchill’s remarks that “history is written by the victors” – and Henry will fight tooth-and-nail to be budged from that comfortable “history”.

    Henry (and others like him) will never change their views. To do so would involve the destruction of their world-view… and having to find ways to adapt to a new reality.

    In the scene, “Matrix”, the character ‘Reagan’ understand that he is living a lie. But the lie is more comforting than reality, so he chooses the former rather than the latter; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7BuQFUhsRM

    Henry would find much in common with ‘Reagan’…

    1. in an essay by Slavoy Zizek, ‘welcome to the desert of the real’ (going with the matrix theme here!) he suggested, what does not exist will continue to persist. People can ignore reality for their own comfort all they want but it does not go away, it will continue to persist, it will continue to demand to be heard. Facing shit is hard, and it is painful but what we desperately need is more people who connect with their humanity not ignore it.

  6. By the way, on the issues of flag-burnings, swastikes, and suchlike, I suspect it matters not one jot if protesters did everything conceivable not to create reasons for mainstream media to focus on trivia and blow it out of proportion, thereby manufactured, sensational “news” – people like Henry will find a reason to express “indignation”.

    If the news cannot be sensationalised, it will not be reported. Because without sensationalism, they cannot sell advertising.

    Case in point, today, on TV3 News – the first three minutes of the broadcast focused on ‘selfies’; New Zealanders taking photos with Royalty in the background. I kid you not. Three whole minutes of garbage.

    Further reporting of Israel’s attacks on Gaza was well into the broadcast. Israel’s attacks on a hospital and children’s playground was no longer deemed worthy of leading the News, it seems.

    1. that is the news for you, fluff pieces when selfies are thought to be lead news you know its time to turn the telly off and switch on Democracy Now.

    2. Who is thumbing your comments down, and why? They always seem pretty well thought out to me.

  7. Flag burning is a favourite activity of political extremists, plenty of footage of hysterical violent mobs in the ME burning the US and Israeli flags.

    So when protesters do it here on NZ streets, they should not be surprised that NZers justifiably have an adverse reaction to it.

    The article vacillates between distancing the protest from the flag burners and approving of them.

    “one single person with a swastika emblazoned on an Israeli flag”

    There was a cheering crowd surrounding the flag burning, including you Ms King, so it was hardly “one single person” involved was it?
    Why didn’t you approach them and say “Hey stop, this not what the protest is about, this not what the organisers want”.

    1. I gave you context for the flag. I care more about bodies fucking burning than a flag, I make no apologies for my position or the blog I wrote. Yeah I cheered the burning of the American flag and I cheered the burning of the Israeli flag because I am not o.k with genocide and I am not ok with America financing it.

  8. Interesting article, thank you. Around 95 per cent of the 1.8 million people in Gaza are from Israel, being pushed there from 1947 up until the last truckloads landed in 1953. This 90 year civil war will hopefully be followed by a new inclusive democracy, so the non Jewish Israelis stuck on the Gaza beach can enjoy civil and voting rights in a new better Israel….

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