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  1. What a brilliant piece of writing Chole I thank you.
    As a person of colour … did you like that *positive* spin on,
    I am Maori,

    I use it oftentimes to avoid the usual negative overview of my race
    as somehow sometimes I’m expected to be the chief spokes person to have a ready acceptable answer for the same old tired questions
    like “yea well what do you think of the …blah blah blah that YOU people do.”

    If I display a negative, ‘who gives a fuck attitude,’
    all hell is let loose on me, isolate, attack go for the jugular kind of shit. “Well maybe if YOU cared YOU people would be different”

    If I display a positive “well show me the stats and look at Maori that succeed te me te me” they don’t like that and start picking hole’s in ME forgetting about the race they were just debasing,
    most times with snarlying lips bared to show extreme racism.ffs

    Positive negative which or who can or should I be?

    Because being myself sometimes is a very hard thing to do.
    Arguing with people who *know* me better than I know myself is
    Like playing poker with penguins
    Just doesn’t work

    So I will be me thats a positive/negative Maori somewhat sometimes balanced person and I will just love myself, and just smile and say
    Yes today is a good day.

  2. The silliness is that “being positive” is used to cover older, varied approaches to human difficulties and impasses. There used to be words like optimism, hopefulness, faith, trust, or enthusiasm. We could be aspirational, ambitious, buoyant, overenthusiastic, ever cheerful, utopian, gushing, raving or whitewashing. Or perhaps conservative, pessamisic, sad, without hope, disappointed, diffident, having misgivings, anxieties, nervous apprehensions or the collywobbles.
    What are we when clutching at straws, counting chickens, engaging in wishful thinking, or are self deluded? Or if we are have a glimmer of hope, or are wearing rose coloured spectacles or living in a fool’s paradise?
    Our very cells are positively and negatively charged. Electromagnetic force, one of the four forces in our universe occurs because of positve and negative poles.
    No need to flounder about in all the pathos of New Age kool aid and candified crap.

    1. “Our very cells are positively and negatively charged. Electromagnetic force, one of the four forces in our universe occurs because of positve and negative poles.”
      Fortunately, you seem to be using this as a metaphor, because in literal terms, except that the number of fundamental forces is indeed four, both sentences are confused and/or meaningless.

  3. thank you for the read.
    It is frustrating being in need of help only to discover a web of confusion.

    My experience is with anxiety
    if you don’t LOOK like you need help it can be impossible to get it. Fit young male? too scared to leave his house and for no real reason? Not really the image most of us hold of “helplessness”. hard to convince people of physical and emotional abuse when genetics make you look like an athlete.

    I was trying my hardest to look ok in social settings, started to make progress among friends but it was bumpy. Experiencing success can make you look as though you don’t truly need help in the eyes of your support person(s), like your effort is the truth and your struggles the lie. Its now that a call for help comes as a surprise and is seen as unnecessary, “we fixed this already!” and they are left to wonder why, “is it for attention?”.

    they looked for motive behind my uncontrollable irrational fear. With their conclusions I don’t blame them for not wanting to be in contact with me, i only wish the process by which they came to their conclusions was based off communication and understanding.

    most people you ask would say they would help a friend or loved one with depression or isolation, but they have no obligation to see you as needing help, or responsibility for them personally to be the one to help, so they are free not to give it

    they are not bad people, they are stuck in that web of confusion too

  4. Good post Chloe. I don’t know why but it seems most job adverts require this. The only reason I can think it is creating a fantasy world where people don’t see reality of situations around them. ie low wages, oppressive conditions, long hours etc etc.

    Chris Hedges quote above appears true.

  5. People who believe thinking, positive or negative, determines your spirit have things the wrong way round. The soul/psyche is infinitely deep and our thoughts are a surface level expression of this pyramid. I personally believe things deeper inside us determine what we think, what ideas come up in our heads etc. It’s good to try and look on the positive side of life but the philosophy of “positive thinking” is essentially quite a shallow analysis of the human experience. The notion that “I think so therefore I am” is essentially a very “materialist” point of view that is likely to be believed by extroverts (in the Jungian sense, those who believe what they see externally is reality) rather than introverts (those who identify more readily with their inner selves as being reality).

  6. This is the ‘jist’ of the thinking positive situation. It is always good to think positively on any situation even if its is bad…

    Take into consideration this:

    Your mind is a radio. You decide what frequency your brain sits on.

    You can choose to either ‘be positive’ or ‘be negative’ these are the two frequencies you can choose from. If you choose positive, positive things will come into your radio… If you choose to be negative, negative things will come to your radio…

    As far as changing your life, it takes time and a lot of positive thinking and action. Positive thinking alone will not bring about change, change is brought about by you and what actions to take to achieve your dreams.

    I am a person who has used this ‘positive thinking’ to get myself out of the ghetto… It wasn’t really positive thinking alone, but mainly determination to change my life… To escape the poverty that I grew up in.

    Think however you want, but being negative about anything will make any situation worse regardless of what you believe…

    1. Don’t over-think things. Being a positive person isn’t hard to do… And it isn’t going to make you rich over night… But it is going to help you, people react better to people who are kinder more positive etc… Than people who make them feel negative aswell…

      Instead of focusing on how you can’t get a job (negative side)
      Focus on different ways of how you can go about getting that job (positive side)

      Can (positive)
      Can’t (negative)

      At the end of the day, thinking about anything gets you nowhere… The actions you take define the thoughts you produce.

  7. Once someone recommended to me to read a book called “Think and Grow Rich”, I knew that “positive thinking” is often an exploited concept, simply to excuse the better off doing well, and the not so successful to be blamed for their “failure” to think “positive”.

    The ideologues behind neoliberal politics, behind the laissez faire, Chicago Boys concepted approach, they know full well, it is all BS, but they get away with manipulating the desperate, downtrodden, the poor and ever so “hopeful”, to make them believe, it is all about “attitude”.

    Screw that kind of stuff, if you are denied basic food on your plate, or a decent, humble place to rent and live in, this has NOTHING to do with “positivity” or “self love” and bizarre psychological recipes, it is a material fact and injustice. Fact is, the preachers of “positive thinking” are often the ones confusing cause and effect, I have no trouble thinking “positive”, if my parents pave my way through life with nice advantages, I may struggle to do the same, being totally disadvantaged.

  8. What the evidence says about psychological interventions for people with depression, is that thinking positively doesn’t work, because positive thoughts aren’t credible to a depressed person (sometimes for good reason). I think what is most helpful in terms of thinking is thinking realistically (as opposed to negatively). So if two hundred people are going for the same job, realistically, I am not likely to get it. So then I can think about what the most adaptive thing is to do in a situation like this. In some cases the most adaptive thing to do is to protest, join a political party and get active.
    Positive thoughts on their own don’t make positive things happen. That is magical thinking. Taking some sort of action is what makes things happen. Evidence based therapies will take this approach. For example CBT where the situation the person is in is highly factored as a reason for their feelings such as depression.

  9. Found the quote on Socrates and the pig. It is by John Stuart Mill from his UTILITARIANISM of 1863.

    “Now it is an unquestionable fact that those who are equally
    acquainted with, and equally capable of appreciating and enjoying,
    both, do give a most marked preference to the manner of existence
    which employs their higher faculties. Few human creatures would
    consent to be changed into any of the lower animals, for a promise
    of the fullest allowance of a beast’s pleasures; no intelligent
    human being would consent to be a fool, no instructed person would
    be an ignoramus, no person of feeling and conscience would be
    selfish and base, even though they should be persuaded that the
    fool, the dunce, or the rascal is better satisfied with his lot than
    they are with theirs. They would not resign what they possess more
    than he for the most complete satisfaction of all the desires which
    they have in common with him. If they ever fancy they would, it is
    only in cases of unhappiness so extreme, that to escape from it they
    would exchange their lot for almost any other, however undesirable
    in their own eyes. A being of higher faculties requires more to make
    him happy, is capable probably of more acute suffering, and
    certainly accessible to it at more points, than one of an inferior
    type; but in spite of these liabilities, he can never really wish to
    sink into what he feels to be a lower grade of existence. We may
    give what explanation we please of this unwillingness; we may
    attribute it to pride, a name which is given indiscriminately to
    some of the most and to some of the least estimable feelings of
    which mankind are capable: we may refer it to the love of liberty
    and personal independence, an appeal to which was with the Stoics
    one of the most effective means for the inculcation of it; to the love
    of power, or to the love of excitement, both of which do really
    enter into and contribute to it: but its most appropriate
    appellation is a sense of dignity, which all human beings possess in
    one form or other, and in some, though by no means in exact,
    proportion to their higher faculties, and which is so essential a part
    of the happiness of those in whom it is strong, that nothing which
    conflicts with it could be, otherwise than momentarily, an object of
    desire to them.

    Whoever supposes that this preference takes place at a sacrifice
    of happiness- that the superior being, in anything like equal
    circumstances, is not happier than the inferior- confounds the two
    very different ideas, of happiness, and content. It is indisputable
    that the being whose capacities of enjoyment are low, has the
    greatest chance of having them fully satisfied; and a highly endowed
    being will always feel that any happiness which he can look for, as
    the world is constituted, is imperfect. But he can learn to bear its
    imperfections, if they are at all bearable; and they will not make him
    envy the being who is indeed unconscious of the imperfections, but
    only because he feels not at all the good which those imperfections
    qualify. *It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig
    satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.*
    And if the fool, or the pig, are a different opinion, it is because
    they only know their own side of the question. The other party to
    the comparison knows both sides. ”

    All magical thinking starts with the assumption that wishing makes it so – that one’s state of mind, given sufficiently pure concentration, can effect changes (improvements) to physical reality.
    Nowadays, magical thinking has to assert itself over scientific knowledge, even teetering into sociological schizophrenia (the inability to distinguish fantasy from reality), because any advantages humans may have previously derived from optimistic delusions are now foundering on very serious, planet-threatening shoals. What has intensified is the degree of disconnect from sanity and the scope of consequences from continued insanity.

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