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  1. This article reads like a barely disguised attempt to un-person those who the author dislikes or disagrees with.

    Also, is it not true that lockdowns have a cost? The inference seems to be that this doesn’t matter.

    1. The article is not inferring there is no downside to lockdowns at all. It’s just pointing out that despite the numbers in the 2020 survey the Herald chose to say Auckland was deeply divided.

      1. Quite correct, Wheel. It seems to me that Righties are rushing in to downplay this analysis with a deluge of negative responses.

  2. Here’s an interesting tidbit:

    Yesterday, a NZ Herald survey was stopped when it reached 49% supporting protestors and 51% against. Just stopped there. I suspect so it wouldn’t show a majority support for them.

    Self-selection bias on NZ Herald you say? Yes, somewhat I would agree. But it had 17,000 responses – a huge selection for a survey when voting polls often have only 2,000 or less people.

    Even discounting say, 9%, for self-section bias, it would still reveal enormous latent support for protestors, despite your weak attempts to link 95% vaxxed to only 5% support.

    I’m completely vaxxed and 100% against mandates and in favour of the protests. How many vaxxed only only vaxxed because of social and professional ostracism and threats of losing jobs – and hated that approach.

    The other key point is – human rights aren’t actually subject to a popularity contest. Nor is Liberal democracy only applicable when the times are good.

    But now, Might to right for the Left. The Left slide towards soft Authoritarianism for ‘the greater good’ – just like they did throughout the 20th Century. Gone are the days of siding with the dispossessed, the marginalised, free speech, and human rights generally.

    There has been sweet nothing in arrests for misbehaviour of the protests (except the stupid Thursday attempt to shut down it all by police invasion). Instead, we find the salivating Wellingtonian laptop class who are so eager to find offence and a sympathetic journalist to parade their inconvenience. Poor babies can’t stand having to hear a different opinion in THEIR city – how dare the rabble not leave! Forget about the last two years decimating businesses, relationships, finances, and democracy.

    Try again, Curwen. The bloated, myopic desire to gloss the most extreme Covid-19 response in a Western country as wonderful is failing.

  3. People who blindly put their faith in big Pharma are being extremely naive. The track record of these big companies is appalling and ,no doubt, continues to be so.

  4. Omicron cases double every 3 or 4 days, in a 95% vaccinated population. But we’re supposed to remove the labour rights of the unvaccinated because they represent a public health threat?
    Give me a break.
    The mandates are the focus of 90% of those protestors.

  5. I think the majority of New Zealanders have had enough of the protest. The infantile signs, the threats, the spitting, damage to businesses etc etc. Time to tow their cars and enforce the laws the majority of people respect.

  6. The slightly left now call the more left right? Jacinda really has messed up NZ politics and minds. The slightly left (but really right) are angry at everyone and its all started will the passive aggressive, smile on, smile off cult leader.

  7. Gordon you are obviously not a Wellingtonian and having read your very one sided opinion there is no need to run us all down either. We are the ones putting up with these idiots and clowns on our street spitting, swearing, abusing people and illegally parking their vehicles to cause maximum disruption. Its time our Police got some balls and arrested these clowns instead of giving them free parking what a bloody joke. It seems a new precedence has been set where protestors who choose to protest for a long time can get free parking, they can spit, swear and abuse people with no or little repercussions and this is bad. I am surprised no one has lashed out yet but there is still time. And I have heard many tradies aren’t happy with the protestors saying if they get in there way they will run them over.

    1. Keep on trucking, Covid is Pa.

      Lived in Wellington for about 7 years total. I even work for the Govenment myself as a professional. Almost everybody at my work reeks of middle-class entitlement and snobbery about anything non-Government and “diversity” approved, especially if it involves having to deal face to face with the hoi polli. My colleagues are vaxxed and masked up to the gills but ran to their “safety” of working from home at the first hint of Omicron. “Health and well-being” now means ideological safety and whatever subjective, neurotic feeling of fear someone employee has. Me, me, all fucking me.

      I take the faux “I’m being harmed” by the Wellington laptop class with a massive dollop of salt, even without two years of state control and entire unending of society. If people are misbehaving – arrest then. But it appears very far and in between. And unless you live on Kate Shepperd Place, it’s a pretty limited impact, especially when Lambton end has been a virtual ghost town lately.

      Instead, all the Authoritarian Left can resort to now is smearing everyone as neo-Nazi and Stuff-Govt-Funded articles towing the line.

      What a joke.

  8. What was once mildly amusing is now starting to irritate the majority of people. The infantile signs, the spitting, harassment of locals, blocking of streets. Surely its time to move them on, tow their cars, and apply the appropriate penalties for those that break the law. It can only be a matter of time before a counter protest movement gets organised and from what we’ve seen it will only get uglier from there.

  9. It’s just ordinary people. Which means nice people nasty people, tall people short people, old people, young people, uneducated people, educated people, clever people dumb people.

    All with the same rights, all with a view of the importance of their own perspective.

    The difficulty I have is with dumb people trying to tell me stuff like, on a bright clear sunny day, that the sky is green, or 3+4=2.

  10. Agree with Curwen, and in the process of normalisation, those who do so are normalising name-specific death threats and calls for assassination of specific MPs. …Those calls often being made in graphic terms.

    How is that helpful for democracy or for freedom in any sense of the word?
    The slowness of the ‘Left’ (or what remains of it) in calling out such, is disheartening.

    Luxon now saying “enough” to their antics, or at least backing the PM in her general response, is a win for him.

  11. I have seen them on TV and I would rather poke my eyes out than talk to them . Most are a feral bunch of non workers living off the state.
    If I had any say I would take the rego numbers of the illegally parked vehicles tract the owners and if they are on the dole stop it because they are not out looking for work. The children should be removed from this shit fest

  12. It seems to me you are all emotional fannies, all against or all for. There’s not much capable understanding the situation, the protesters, and what their ‘cycology’ is. They often haven’t got much and the little pleasures or helps they had are being diminished and they can’t cope with the greyness in their world and just bearable by watching tv, using the internet and finding others the same on Facebook or wherever. Unfortunately if you find similar-minded people you don’t get a different viewpoint, you reinforce each other. They need something to look forward to so they don’t go away empty-handed. I know the minimum wage has gone up a tad, but that’s just a nasic and should happen every year. They are starting off on a deficit very likely.

    If the protesters met with others from set areas and were faced with doing something that their area needed which would help most of them, a sort of small regional development grant for a worthy project, if they couldn’t come up with amything iof value which might have spin-offs for employment,etc t would reflect on them, not the government. Coming down hard on people who already feel aggrieved won’t take us forward.

  13. The obvious problem with seeing this as a problem is: who believes everything the media says, or the government come to that. Faith in those institutions is at rock bottom.
    “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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