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  1. The crazy thing is that all those people who own property in NZ, and particularly in Auckland, who feel richer when their property values go up, aren’t actually richer at all.

    It’s all theoretical increases. Paper wealth only.

    It’s only actually an increase in your real equity if you sell your property and exit the market, then enter a different market.

    If you sell and buy in the same market, you’re selling and buying at the same inflated prices. You will have no real gain until you cash up and exit the market.

    So what do these people really get out of rising prices? The feeling of being rich. And the ability to borrow more. Which they are doing. Our level of household debt is now higher than it was in 2007. Thats a huge risk for the NZ economy.

    IMO it’s horribly selfish for those owning property to resist all attempts at bringing prices down, because of their feels. Too high prices have the effect of reducing home ownership, young people find it so much harder to buy.

    1. You are right, it leaves the whole country at huge risk. A drop in prices will leave many with debt they will struggle to pay off.

    2. If they stopped corrupt money, rich immigrants and our speculators blowing money into the Auckland property bubble ….. the thing would go pop….

      Like Ireland where key used to work with merill Lynch ….

      Ireland:

      all of Ireland had become subprime. Otherwise sound Irish borrowers had been rendered unsound by the size of the loans they had taken out to buy inflated Irish property. That had been the strangest consequence of the Irish bubble: to throw a nation which had finally clawed its way out of centuries of indentured servitude back into it.”

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      Perhaps the only detailed academic examination of Ireland’s regulatory laxity comes from Professor Jim Stewart of Trinity College, Dublin. The IFSC, he reveals, formed a core element in the toxic global “shadow banking” system that led to the global financial crisis. For example, hedge funds would typically be listed in Dublin, managed in London and domiciled in a classic tax haven like the Cayman Islands.

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      Simply put, the Irish miracle was a mirage driven by clever use of tax-haven rules and a huge credit boom that permitted real estate prices and construction to grow quickly before declining ever more rapidly.

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      Lastly is the area of offshore trusts, a means of avoiding tax so common that even the dogs on the street could tell you what they’re used for. The users of trusts enjoy relative anonymity which makes it difficult to ascertain who owns them, what assets they control and thus how to tax them.

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      Merill Lynch” ………..

      “Ken Lewis, the CEO of Bank of America, agreed to swallow one of the country’s most toxic investment houses.”

      “Tucked into the press release was the news that Merrill Lynch had lost a staggering $15.3 billion in the fourth quarter.

      Merrill’s losses were now $12 billion. (By the end of December, they reached $15.3 billion.) Lewis later said that what he mainly remembered from the conversation with Price was just the “staggering amount of deterioration” in Merrill’s financial performance.”

      “provide protection against further losses” on $118 billion in toxic assets, primarily taken from the Merrill Lynch balance sheet.”

  2. PANIC FRANK! – As monetary cracks appear!!!!

    Frank! You are like a rare French wine “keep getting better with age”

    PARTLY DUE TO NATIONALS “SPEND BIG” ON ROADING AS ANOTHER $30 BILLION IS GIVEN TO ROADING IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS!!!

    WITH NO RETURN ON THAT INVESMENT, UNLIKE WHAT THEY PLACE ON OUR PUBLICALLY OWNED RAIL, – THAT FACES AN 8% PREMIUM ON GOVERNMENT’s FLIMSY ONE BILLION INVESMENT IN RAIL?????

    THIS IS ONLY ONE SUCH FOOLISH ISSUE GOVERNMENT HAVE SCREWED UP WITH THEIR BUSTED FLAWED ECONOMIC POLICIES.

    “The fact that a recent war-of-words has erupted over the RBNZ’s involvement in Auckland’s housing crisis suggests that English’s Very Kiwi Coup may not have been successful.

    In fact, the Cold War has become a Hot Conflict.

    In the last week, the ‘battleground’ between National and the Bank became more public, as government minister and chief Head-Kicker, Steven Joyce and Grant Spence continued their war-of wills.”

  3. Of course the Reserve Bank can (but won’t) do something about the housing bubble: increase interest rates. Doing that would both make saving for a house easier and make borrowing to the hilt more expensive. Naturally they won’t do this, because it would instantly expose the underlying recession this country is undergoing under the National government. The whole GFC has been a race to the bottom, and once you hit bottom there is nowhere left to go.
    The facts are simple folks, house PRICES are largely irrelevant to the buyer. The ONLY thing they care about is how much it COSTS to “own” (i.e. service the debt on) a house which is ENTIRELY dependent on the interest you have to pay on the mortgage.
    A $400,000 debt at 8% costs EXACTLY the same ($32,000/year) as $800,000 at 4%. Until people wake up and realise this whole housing bubble is predicated on the cost of “ownership” (i.e. debt servicing) NOT price, nothing is going to change. Indeed the Reserve Bank is going to keep DECREASING rates to prop up the bubble which will all but guarantee increasing prices until they hit zero.
    Capitalism officially failed in 2008, but clearly the apparatchiks haven’t gotten memo yet.

    1. I guess you covered it with the “underlying recession this country is undergoing” part of your comment but increased interest rates would up our dollar value & decrease exports & tourism income. While your maths about interests cost is reasonable you need to factor in income as well before you can say the house price is irrelevant. While property investors can rely on capital gain & leverage during the good times to cover the high purchase price the low to middle income families that should be able to afford their own home are still denied that ability by high house prices. In many other parts of the world property prices have dropped & I expect the same drop here eventually.

    2. August is a-coming in.
      We can hope the OCR rises.

      (Have we punished the country’s few savers enough? Or is saving ‘un-Kiwi’? Everytime I check my account there’s a bit more in it and the interest rate is fading, fading fading. Save more – get less.)

  4. http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/newzealand
    We have manipulators masquerading as a government that doesn’t know what it’s doing until it’s told. The Reserve Bank is the National Government and the National Government is the Reserve Bank. All for one and that one being NZ Inc run out of The City of London.
    I’d be awfully happy if someone could correct me if this is wrong thinking.

  5. Well done Frank. You have outdone all of your previous efforts in both volume and depth of drivel. The only sad part is I bothered to read it all!

    1. You haven’t commented on any aspect of it, so I doubt you read it, maninthemiddle. Otherwise you’d be more specific in what part is “drivel”.

      Give us some examples.

    2. “Drivel”? The only “drivel” is your rather asinine comment, Man In The middle. Frank has referenced every point he’s made and drawn some fairly reasonable conclusions.

      In fact, the MSM have come to the same conclusion, that there is conflict between the Nats (who you so slavishly support) and the Reserve Bank.

      You didn’t address a single point raised in Frank’s report, because you can’t.

    3. Maninthemiddle . . .
      So full of piddle
      Comments that show
      He has much to grow
      In order to see
      that most disagree
      with your drivel and nonsense.

      Frank is light years ahead
      of your intellect so
      drivel on middleman
      and then bury you head in the sand.

      1. Heh heh heh… thank you, Blake. I think I can say in all honesty that that is the first poem ever dedicated to one of my works…

        I might have to print it off and frame it for my office wall…

        1. Spent some time tonight on your blog, for the first time, and I agree with each item on your list of how to heal New Zealand.
          I knew we were kindred spirits and I am honoured that you like the quickly put together poem cuz I enjoy questioning and exposing those who dwell in untruths and biased ignorance and just plain ole Tom Foolery ==>> myself included sometimes ! !

        2. I heard from a birdie that these trolls get $15 to $20 every blog response so we shouldn’t give it any money for the dribble.

    4. As usual, maninthemiddle, you’re not much more than a mouthpiece for National and Act.

      As usual you can’t address a single point Frank has raised and documented.

      As usual, your pro-National ignorance shines through.

  6. Well, the good/bad news is that this government isn’t going to do anything substantial so we can expect the average house price to be well over $1 million by the next election.

  7. “John Key MP
    Leader of the National Party
    20 August 2007
    Speech to Auckland branch
    New Zealand Contractors Federation
    Conclusion
    Over the past few years a consensus has developed in New Zealand. We are facing a severe home affordability and ownership crisis. The crisis has reached dangerous levels in recent years and looks set to get worse.

    This is an issue that should concern all New Zealanders. It threatens a fundamental part of our culture, it threatens our communities and, ultimately, it threatens our economy.

    The good news is that we can turn the situation around. We can deal with the fundamental issues driving the home affordability crisis. Not just with rinky-dink schemes, but with sound long-term solutions to an issue that has long-term implications for New Zealand’s economy and society.

    National has a plan for doing this and we will be resolute in our commitment to the goal of ensuring more young Kiwis can aspire to buy their own home.
    It’s a worthy goal and one I hope you will support us in achieving. Thank-you.”

    So if in 2007 it was a crisis ,in John Key’s words, why is just a challenge now? Surely Key has turned the housing issue into a catastrophe?
    His inaction clearly defines his lack of leadership and should resign now or is he lust a hypocrite.

    1. 100% Bert that statement will come around & bite him in the arse come election time.

  8. So I presume only Qataris will consider NZ housing cheap by comparisons.

  9. I remember watching something on TV years ago, where the Reserve Bank was the topic of discussion. Basically, the implication was that the Reserve Bank governor could do whatever he liked, so long as he remembered that if he did, he would never see his wife and kids again. (They being in a cabin in the woods, so to speak).
    While it DID appear to be that way back then, today there are signs of rebellion, as has been pointed out. Perhaps the present governor is not a paid-up member of the Natzkey Party. (OMG-how did THAT happen?)
    At least now we know what the economy is based on. Migrant investors buying up large in Auckland.
    It MIGHT work for a while, but it cannot longterm. And, as usual, the pollies have failed to notice that the natives are getting restless.

  10. Frank – very nice work – much appreciated.

    Our housing crisis will not change much with this govt.

    Of course the Reserve Bank will do not much either as they are owned and controlled by the — ROTHSCHILD’S ILLUMINATI.

    Their priorities and agenda are clear and needs the attention of folks that want to wake up and see the truths.

    Jonkey Donkey is heavily entrenched in this same group that wants to privatize everything and cut social service spending.

    Their whole banking and corporate plan is profit – profit and more profit. That is why these unethical and greedy families are worth many

    trillions meanwhile the world suffers and refugee numbers grow and the homeless problem remains.

    To count on National or the reserve bank to help the poor and help curb this housing crisis is a

    very futile effort and waste of time and energy. THEY are the problem.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/10/complete-list-of-banks-owned-by-illuminati-rothschild-family-3235204.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97Z94xNYsk

  11. If Labour wins in 2017, and house prices crash during its first term, they will probably lose in 2020. Therefore they should be thinking now, not only about how to halt price increases, but also about what to do in the event of a crash.

    It seems to me necessary to, not only stabilise house prices, but greatly reduce them.

  12. I love that name, the “Bright Line Test”. How cool is it? They can’t say it often enough for mine. Roll it round on your tongue. Sounds like a superhighway to the future. I don’t even have to know what it means to know it’s great. (I certainly don’t want it to be called a capital-gains wet bus-ticket).It’s almost as good as that $25.00 bail-out of my responsibility towards people who are struggling.

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