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  1. Great article, Frank.

    I suspect Cullen and his fellow reviewers started from the position that agencies like GCSB and the SIS are vitally needed in the modern era, but probably require re-tooling. If so, that’s an assumption that not all Kiwis agree with.

    Further, because we are locked in to the security apparatus of our closest allies, I’d guess that their task was to find ‘efficiencies’, rather than to challenge the basic modus operandi of our spooks.

    btw, I’m not sure that the use of [sic] is required in the transcribed sections. Cullen seems to be using the word deputed correctly.

  2. I think it is obvious why Cullen was Knighted by the Nats…this latest effort is nothing more than pay-back…now we all know for sure that Labour is of the Right…

    1. Cullen is not in the current Labour party that sits in parliament Very sad to see Cullen sell out, but disagree that Labour is of the right, there are a lot of lefties in there. The righties are dwindling.

        1. You know John key and his National government are trending downwards don’t you? They no longer command the unrealistic heady heights like they used to.

      1. What would you call, say, Goff, King and Mallard, if not the right wing of the Labour party?

        They’re holding on for dear life, long beyond the time they should have resigned, like all career labourites.

        I hope you are right but I really don’t see it myself. Labour is swinging right as usual and it’s depressing their poll numbers because reluctant voters won’t show up for centrist, politics-as-usual.

  3. Key and his cronies are a proxy government for whom….? Why are we putting up with this bulls#%t from this government???

    1. America and China. John key works for both. And yep. I don’t understand why we are not all flowing onto the streets forcing this treason corrupt key National government out of office.

  4. There’s also the more devious method of getting around the ban on domestic spying.

    Ask a foreign ally to spy on your citizens while you spy on theirs, then exchange the info.

      1. Why do institutional problems exist in general?
        Cultural power.
        Institutional Inertia.
        And absurd difficulties in creating a new replacement.

        GCSB was created without a pre-existing institutional and cultural knowledge and they had to learn the ins and outs of the trade as they went along. They managed to develop a lot of bad habits along the way. But not all bad.

        Trying to create a completely new organization is a lot more difficult then fixing the problems the current system has.
        However that would require persistant leadership that could outlive the problems and not vice versa. Which is not possible under the current administrative culture where change in presidency means reorganizations on the top level.

        1. Wasn’t the GCSB created by Rob Muldoon back in the 1970’s? Typical of all National governments, they set something up without bothering with the details, that they say, can be done later. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. The key National government is the worst of them all for doing that.

          1. according to wiki, yes.

            All this is a bit of a laugh, the powers that be are essentially trying to create a clairvoyant service that can tell the future.

          2. And we all know that will never happen. What it really is all about is that a few will have complete control and power.

          3. It’s to much information. We don’t have a lazy billion dollars to send on storage devices. So we have to pay in other ways to have all our data uploaded on to the NSA servers. With all that data you would need a bitching AI to make all that info useful. Remember, all this started because they can’t shut down pirate bay.

            The fact is that there is no physical solutions to the problems the Internet throws up.

  5. It’s a shame Kathryn Ryan doesn’t have the skill/intelligence to challenge Cullen on his spurious examples for the use of this legislation.
    Lost at sea, and they track your cell phone to find you….hilarious.

    1. Brigid, yes, that thought crossed my mind as well. I was a bit taken aback that Ryan didn’t call Cullen on that piece of bullshitry. I think it was obvious to most folk that Cullen was using the most spurious of reasons to expand the Bureau’s surveillance powers.

      If that’s the best Cullen can offer, he has nothing of value to justify his position.

      1. The correct procedure when lost at sea is to activate epirb. I don’t know weather to laugh or cry at these whole rediculousness.

        Crazy!

      2. Cullen has never had anything of value to offer.
        He was a complete fuckwit in the days of the Helengrad Cartel, and he still is.

  6. The US wants us to fight their stupid copyright war for them. It’s not sensible – the biggest copyright violaters in the 19th century were the Americans – it didn’t ruin England or Europe any more than Asian piracy has ruined the US. We have no skin in this game, we should leave the big countries to fight their own battles.

  7. Yes agreed a great article Frank again,

    We do now clearly see how this treasonous Government is against the people and only for foreign corporations that they are simply agents for the acquisition of our last remaining assets the cowardly anti Kiwi creeps.

  8. “Cullen is deeply concerned “where you can’t find the Attorney General, or the the Minister deputed [sic] by the Prime Minister [to] act on the Attorney General’s behalf, or the judicial commissioner“?!

    Maybe they should just try the Golf Club.

    1. Such a convoluted situation. So no Attorney general, no deputy AG, and no judicial commisioner? It can bloody wait for a real warrant.

      If you need three points of failure to have to wait on a critical warrant, you’ve prepared adequately, and can use other temporary measures in the meantime.

  9. Excellent analysis as always, Frank. Cullen’s bogus concern for “sailors lost at sea” has to be one of the weakest, most pathetic rationales ever used to advanced the spy agencies’ monitoring powers.

    As per usual, the msm is asleep at the wheel, not scrutinising the garbage we are being fed.

    1. MSM are not just asleep, the are the co-pilot at the wheel.

      Neither could put this trash through without the other.

      Love how all the ex Labour are out with the sabotage too, Clark/Goff and TPP and Cullen – Spying.

      No wonder brand Labour languish in the polls.

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