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  1. Yes Frank,

    Bullshit was the right statement for the dishonest way they reported what minister David Parker said as he only said cows numbers would be controlled by “Nutrient Limits”.

    So how simple is that to understand? – but the media got it so fucking wrong and resorted to “fake media”, it was so discussing, it is times like now when Labour urgently need to get their own TV channel up and running they promised us but the lack-lustre Minister of Broadcasting Clare Curran has been dragging her feet for seven long months now since in November 2017 she promised us this new ‘commercial free Public investigative reporters media to give some media balance’ but we still have no balance in the media.

    David Parker QUOTE; “Instead, it will be done on nutrient limits, the amount of nutrients that can be lost from a farm to a waterway.”

  2. Yes Martyn agree too much bull by our mainstream media and its not just some of our farms have too much shit our media are up to their eyeballs in shit.
    ps. they did the same thing to Taika Waititi misquoting him to stir up more shit.

  3. The Girls and Boys who do Journalism and Interviews for the Media are not selected for their intelligence or their knowledge.

    They would not have any idea of the the properties of Phosphate or Nitrates let alone the vital impotance of H20.

    They are selected by their loyalty to the corporate low level manager who “likes their attitude – and smile”.

    Corin, by the way, goes all nice to National Girls – but rams his points into Labour Ministers; cuts across them they speak; twist their answers; changes the topic rapidly. On top of that he selects his Panels with Wealthy rather unintelligent capabilities.

    1. Correction

      Corin, by the way, goes all nice to National girls- but rams his points at full speed into Labour Ministers; cuts across them as they speaks their answers; and changes topics rapidly. His technique reminds me of Herr Herr Herman SS.

      On top of that he selects panels of limited intelligence and political bias.

    2. I heartily agree with you there OT.

      I have seen this many times from most ‘fake news reporters’ here now.
      NZ media is dead.

      1. Thanks CleanGreen

        I believe that each Minister and spokesperson for Labour should be given thorough training in how to deal with Journalists and Interviewers.

        You see, a Person like Corin Dan has all day to mull over his few lines – then throw them at the Minister at 90 MPH hour – and then cut across the Minister. All techniques to wrong foot the Interviewee.

        Corin, in perfect Herr Herman SS style then presents, not the Ministers words, but his own – to a panel who has no familiarity with the content or the scope of the topics that Herr Herman has lobbed at the minister.

        Herr Herman SS – then draws out the flaws of the Minster with the panel, and not the strengths

        Each Minister must rattle Corin by the simple use of SLOWING him down. “What did you mean by that Mr Dan?”. What have you written in your notes Mr Dan. How did you manage to get that wrong Corin.” “What did your Editor tell you to say Mr Dan ?”

        In short – turn the interview upside down politely until he drops his wealthy bias and his anti Labour jackboots.

        As For the DOM Post- Simply advise all of New Zealand at every opportunity that the DOM Post is unreliable and The Government will not be releasing any matters whatever through its Offices.

        Nor will it invite DOM staff to Government premises.

  4. I’m not in the least surprised the Dompost didn’t publish your letter, Frank. They’re not keen to have us plebes correct their “expert political columnists”.

    Freedom of the press and free speech only seems to count when paid trolls like Deborah Hill-Cone-with-an-E have their spiteful rubbish published.

  5. Well said Frank.

    The MSM will never let the truth get in the way of a good story. The news, and MSM , have become a clickbait reality show. It’s about entertainment, not about accurate information. Our media is following the same sorry path as the USA.

  6. But then whether based on stock numbers or nutrient level the result will be the same, fewer dairy cows. So the headlines are not inaccurate.

    In practice, those farmers who best manage nutrient levels will have the smaller reduction in stock numbers.

  7. To be fair, the media reports are not about any caps and so, they are merely about the need to reduce dairy cow numbers, which the Minister admitted can be achieved by limited nutrient levels permitted in waterways, meaning those exceeding them, may have to reduce numbers.

  8. Both Corin and David if he was given the opportunity should have made a bit more Ag Sci background I think.
    Some soils are naturally fertile, have different particle sizes , and are thus much more and less able to hold extra nutrient that is applied. Some sandy and pumas soils have the capacity to trap and hold fertiliser , Phosphate or Nitrates , poorly. So if it rains too much too soon after application it all finishes up in the creek along with the nitrates etc. excreted. So some soils can physically carry a heavy stocking rate, cope with the physical effects of being walked over and over by very heavy animals without pugging and produce a lot of grass if the fertiliser is pored on constantly . But loose much of that fertiliser if it rains too much. Others need less added because it stays trapped until picked up by plant roots , and almost none escapes. So an arbitrary across the board limit to the number of cows per hector would not be appropriate. Some soils would carry twice the number that others would without nutrient loss to water ways.
    D J S

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