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  1. Blatently lying should not be acceptable. Collins should be stepped down as is any other politicians that publicly lie on social media.

    If they don’t do that, then people will not know whether to believe or not believe in what anybody from parliament is saying if they are allowed to tell untruths.

    Not acceptable.

    1. We can’t censor them, mate. If we did they wouldn’t be able to lie anymore, and it’s all they know how to do. Like the GOP in the States, National know they can’t win unless they use dirty tricks to skew the odds in their favour – part of that involves fudged numbers, dodgy stats and telling a selection of carefully nurtured falsehoods. Their warm embrace of the Crosby/Textor style of political campaigning illustrates this more than adequately. The average punter has neither the time nor the inclination to sift through the dross in order to locate the kernels of truth within, and they still, somewhat naively, rely on the MSM to tell them what’s happening without partisan bias (fat chance of that in this country). Above all, you can rely on National to be dishonest. And probably vindictive.

  2. Good analysis Frank, again just presenting the facts exposes National’s unbelievable malpractice (deceit?). That NZF clanger is embarrassing, a first year political science student should take her place in caucus.

    1. Indeed, Jody. That one was probably the worst of the whole tweet. If she was advised by one of her staffers, I don’t like their chances at continued employment.

  3. If Collins isn’t careful, her reputation and credibility with the media will be worse than it is now. Trumpian politics works in the US because of socio-economic conditions that have impacted badly on working and middle class folk. Add to that their toxic two-party political system; unfettered corporate capitalism; and unaffordable healthcare, and a demagogue like Trump has fertile ground to sow his poisonous seeds of hate.

    New Zealanders reject that kind of demagoguery. (At least, I hope so.) The failure of Act to gain popular support indicates that we Kiwis have little stomach for toxic politics.

  4. Oh dear, Ms Collins! She must labour under the delusion that none of us has access to Google. Or a functioning memory…

    1. “She must labour under the delusion that none of us has access to Google. Or a functioning memory…”

      Nice line, D’Esterre. Must remember to use it sometime…

  5. It’ll be interesting to see what, if anything, the msm reports on Collins’ latest issuing of lies

    Her record on Oravida should’ve totally destroyed her political rep and career. Its an indictment on Pakuranga that voters keep re-electing her

    On the plus side Gyles Beckford ripped Bridges a new one in that interview

    1. Pakuranga voters are primarily concerned about their property values. They’d vote for a roll of toilet paper if they thought it would preserve their imaginary affluence.

  6. When a political party like National MUST resort to regular lying then it shows there is something seriously wrong with them.
    I wouldn’t trust National ever again. Their amazing ability to lie, to twist everything shows them up as being a political party that is on the road to ruin if they continue to behave in such a manner.
    The NZ National Party truly needs a name change to the Bullshit and Lies Party. Most of its current batch of MPs don’t know what is the truth and prefer to spread bullshit and lies because it suits them. What a feeble lot they have become.

  7. Cynics will parrot the old line about politicians lying whenever their mouths are moving, and partisans will claim it’s the other side that lie most often. But it would be interesting to keep a carefully referenced public tally of how many times each MP makes a public statement that fails a fact-check, and how many times they’ve admitted their mistake and apologized vs. digging in their toes and trying to wiggle out of admitting they were wrong (or lying).

    1. I don’t think anyone here is under any illusions in regards to politicians predilection toward playing fast and loose with the truth, and Labour is by no means as pure as the driven snow. However, a cursory examination of National’s recent history shows a pattern of behaviour that is less than honourable and it appears to have become increasingly entrenched. You’d think after the ‘Hollow Men’ and ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations they’d be a little more circumspect, but apparently not. Either they’re slow learners or they don’t much care just so long as they win. There’s a list of lies told by John Key during his time in office freely available on the internet (Google is your friend, or DuckDuckGo if you’re concerned about Google stealing your data), and it makes for jaw-dropping reading. The man has nothing on Trump of course, but still… the brazen dishonesty is fairly repugnant. If you bank with ANZ, you might want to reconsider your life choices.

  8. I really do try not to cuss on this site – I think it’s a sign of ignorance, but when it comes to Collins, she’s full of it. ‘It’ being the kind of thing you scrape off your shoe after treading in it on the footpath.
    I don’t make that comment lightly either.
    I remember very well her being interviewed on the TV news some years ago and making the comment that “I don’t voice my own personal views on matters”.
    The very next day she’s on the TV again, spouting off her ‘own personal views’ on a certain subject.
    Two-faced, hypocritical, dangerous lying woman.
    In any case, how is it that she is back in Parliament?
    She was kicked out sometime ago over the Oravida scandal if my memory serves me correctly (and it may not, so feel free to correct me).
    In any case, out the door she was booted – only to slink back in through the side door un-noticed sometime later.
    HOW?
    Out should mean out – permanently

    1. National don’t have much in the way of standards, and they’re more concerned about having sufficient bums on seats than they are about the moral character (or lack thereof) of their MPs. If it agreed to toe the party line, they’d probably put a fresh turd up for selection. “Vote Poo! Because it couldn’t be more apparent that we don’t give a shit!”

      1. I like your sense of humor(!) and you’re dead right. No morals in the blue camp whatsoever. You can lie, cheat, obfuscate and mislead and you’re still a pillar of that dirty little crew. In fact I think those are necessary prerequisites to join the gang.

  9. Frank I wish you wrong. I hope bridges is still leader of the natz. The really nice thing about that is there are no credible cchallengers. I wish them well.

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