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  1. I could be wrong but from my understanding the Greens had not a lot of choice. An insider leaked information to David Seymour about Meteria’s past( I can surmise it to be someone from a very powerful persuasion at the highest level, possibly an ex Winz head). Enough information, to continually leak until Meteria’s demise. The fact that Seymour pressed this, confirms just what a little creep the man is( dirty politics).

    The only other strategy, would be to do exactly what another particular politician has done and stay quiet, or for Meteria to state that she didn’t “deliberately” set about to mislead Winz.

    Clearly, given that records can be exhumed from Winz, I wonder whether a call to former head Christine Rankin to expose others is necessary, but then again, one would have to admit guilt.

    It is a sad day when an honest politician looses their job, yet the ones in power are the most distrusting.

    1. But if that was true, I would have expected Seymour to come out with it any way, as a way to inflict damage and destroy the narrative that Metiria had the best of intentions in telling her story.

      1. Francesca. Take a look at the second to last paragraph where Seymour said he fed the story to the media.

        ACT Leader David Seymour responds to the resignation of Metiria Turei:

        “The resignation of Metiria Turei is a major victory for taxpayers, for honest beneficiaries, and for decency in politics,” says Mr Seymour.

        “Metiria Turei has finally done the right thing by the public and her party, but also her family who are now spared the intense scrutiny they would have faced as media investigated the undeclared support she received while on a benefit.

        “ACT’s focus on this issue has been completely vindicated. Metiria would not have resigned if there was no truth to the reports fed to me – reports that I prompted media to challenge her on.

        “This means we can now move on to a campaign that focuses on policy, not personality.”

        1. ok
          so you’re saying Seymour sat on it till he could be guaranteed the coup de grace?that would finish Metiria off?
          I get it
          I’m just so disappointed in New Zealanders with this absolute orgy of hate.
          I thought we were better than this.
          I well remember the Listener’s lurch to the right back in the 90’s, with Lindsay Perigo leading the charge against beneficiaries. Even some of my good friends were persuaded

          1. I agree Francesca. It is now “dirty, filthy politics” and it is a sad day that one man parties can keep a government afloat.

            Although Seymour just may get his in Epsom, one can only hope.

  2. That’s OK Tina, I don’t think the party will miss having your endorsement.

  3. Boy o boy!

    With support like that who needs enemies?

    Are you sure you’re on the right blog Tina?

  4. Is there no end to the variety of angles people find to attack the Greens over this? Why do all of those who are not Green supporters want to see the Green’s extinguished like no other political party?

  5. But wait, there’s less!
    The standard confabulated littany of injustice may be a cri de coeur, but it provokes frustrated defensiveness rather than motivated change.

    You can accuse the Greens of naive mismanagement, perhaps, but if this story was going to break, they may have made the best of the situation by trying to front foot it.

    Metiria, ultimately lost out, but the issue is still on the table, and will get on-going coverage.

    It was untenable, and undesirable for the Greens to self immolate on the issue.

    Not fair? No it wasn’t. When was politics ever fair?

    The art of the possible will always have victims as well as winners.

    Right now there is an election to win, and the suggestion that somehow much of the population are irredemably motivated by racist, reactionary instincts is not exactly helpful.

    If you are not putting your energy behind change, you might have the grace to get out of the way.

  6. This is the first non corporate media thing I have read that is honest if not uncomfortable analysis.

    And in reference to Bert above, I have wondered throughoout if she was not a victim too of National/ACT’s Dirty Politics blackmail and if so this “rat fucking” that these arseholes so love to indulge in needs to be outed once and for all.

  7. “Metiria, you cannot say you understood the risks going into it, but are now leaving because it has become too much.”

    Unfortunately, she did. When the heat was turned up, she bailed. Disappointing and angering many.

    1. Once again, The Chairman does his utmost to cast misery upon the Left. Do not believe him when he pretends to be one of us.

      1. Rubbish. I support the cause. It was Metiria who found it too hard and opted to no longer front it.

  8. Thankyou Tina, it is great to get refreshing slicing into the pile of shit and get people thinking. I think you have really nailed it in your article. I am surprised at the limp responses from certain regular bloggers. They seem to be suffering from some sort of fundamentalism blindness. As I believe, we have to edit ourselves hard, and ask the investigative why, why why and not be afraid to face the painful facts that are revealed when we dig around. Ngā mihi nui ki a koe.

  9. To a large degree exposing family friends and privacy to the savages of the media is what everyone takes on when they enter the political arena. You have to wear it if your going to stick your neck out and try to fight a cause that disrupts the establishment. Probably the impact on family should be part of deciding on that corse before embarking. Once in mid passage she should have stayed the corse. Her family should be proud of her, not critical.
    D J S

  10. Woah heavy stuff. I am sure one thing no one foresaw because other than Metiria know one knew in the party that she had voted in another electorate and I think when that came out and Graham and Clendon pulled out that is when the shit hit the fan. And the Ardern thing all happened at the same time so I am not surprised at the drop in the polls but one thing I am sure of they will get back up to 10%.

    I don’t think anyone could have predicted the reaction from the MSM over $3000!

  11. I can understand what Tina is saying, its fair comment in my opinion. And there should have been someone watching Metiria’s back. We are in a war zone in New Zealand , we are at war with the neo liberals, their media , and their manipulating the NZ public with their ideology.

    They have their embedded ‘ journalists / propagandists,…

    They are well organized. And they are ruthless.

    One only has to look back in recent history to observe the viciousness of Roger Douglas, Ruth Richardson and Jenny Shipley and their Mont Pelerin Society backers to see that.

    These are the ilk with which we are dealing with.

    Psychopaths.

    The only consolation is that I believe it will be a Labour led coalition govt after September. But what of Metiria?… I believe she was courageous enough to challenge the 33 year old neo liberal narrative.

    Despite the fall out directed at her , her family, and the Greens. Yes , she should have received better briefings and counsel / intel like any Field General does. But alas she didn’t appear to have , … yet that does not diminish the potency of the message Metiria delivered , she has put the message out there and it will continue to be an Albatross around the neck of National , and moreover,… the neo liberal narrative in their inhumane treatment of the poorer members of society.

    Yet she and the Greens paid a heavy price for speaking the truth.

    When Andrew Little was being harangued by the far right wing embedded propagandists/ media….I stated that I would vote for Labour to help shore up that party base. I have since seen Labour and the ‘Jacinda effect’ which has given a Labour led coalition more than just a chance at forming the next govt after September. Therefore I will adjust my vote accordingly / party vote Greens. First time ever.

    And that was based purely on the stand Metiria took , the Greens social policy’s and concerns, – and most definitely as a protest vote against the Dirty Politics’s tactics that has crept into NZ , and against the 33 year long plunder and degradation of NZ society under the neo liberal ideology.

    Despite any perceived failures on the part of the Greens or even of Metiria herself.

    1. Yes, yes, yes! Exactly why I’m doing that too.

      I reject neo-liberalism and all who endorse it.

  12. Tena Koe Tina. Finally someone dares to say that the Green Emperors and the caucus and their back room team have no clothes on and stuffed up badly. The policy could have (can) stand on its own merits without it being personalised. Having just spent sometime in Scandinavia when this story broke it highlighted not just how racist and sexist NZ is in comparison but even worse how anti-family and anti-children NZ society has become. This type of welfare policy is the mainstream policy in Scandinavia which all the major parties subscribe to because they prioritise people, families and children first. I despair at what this country has become. We protested against apartheid South Africa in the 70’s/80’s but have become a fully fledged socio-economic apartheid state ourselves but think its OK because a few white people suffer as well. Until NZ society starts to equally value every individual/whanau/tamariki as worthy of a healthy life I fear things will only get worse. Nga mihi nui ki a koe.

  13. Clear and refreshingly tough language. “There’s a nasty, vicious undercurrent to the management of this campaign that, if I’m being honest, smells to me like well-intentioned corporate white liberalism.”

    This quote from an article on Counterpunch by Bob Uri endorses all you say.

    ‘In the mid-1980s Klan leader, White nationalist and one-term Representative from Louisiana David Duke traded in his KKK garb for a business suit and a corporate haircut in order to merge his version of White nationalism with then resurgent capitalism. Neoliberalism links a malleable conception of freedom as what those with social power want to circular social apologetics. And the capitalist / Thatcherite assertion that the individual is the fundamental social unit revivifies White nationalism by erasing history.

    Another way of putting this is that neoliberalism has long been a subtext of White nationalism.’

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/11/the-clintons-trump-and-white-backlash

  14. Don’t despair. The pinnaple party over the ditch’s knees are shaking and the pinnapple-and-spaghetti-on-pizza party is done for.

    Mission accomplished, bae.

  15. “Greens have strategists alright. Crap ones. Ones that develop a hashtag campaign which completely individualised Metiria at the same time as they were trying to say this was not about her.”

    Are you allowed to say “Hell Yeah”on TDB…’cos if you are “Hell Yeah”…this sums up my thoughts exactly.

    Sure the MSM wouldn’t have a bar of it…but as Corbyn has shown, you don’t actually need the MSM on board to get your message out there, as long as you hold your ground and deliver the right, well articulated, focused message to The People. In this case, not just beneficiaries, but people who give a damn about anyone other than there own selves.

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