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  1. Thinking it through Ross – this is what we need to do rather than jump to positions, either negative or positive.
    Thanks for getting us on the cognitive wheel; we need to keep running it to keep our brains active, breeding ideas as prolifically as mice. Now that is an odd picture – any cartoonists feel free to pick up on it and claim it as their own!

  2. Trading is expensive which makes profit a part of any system. It takes a lot of effort and money in the form of taxes for society to provide essential services.

    But if a society does not have an adequate system, then it will it show.

    I dare say that Capitalism is the best way to provide an adequate amount of essential services. But it does need to be regulated, so wealth is distributed more evenly.

    As far as the governments concerned preventing piracy and wide spread social collapse is a rather important part of the governments job.

    While cutting defence spending has been pretty widely excepted for ages NZDF is indeed an essential service.

    So when some one says that government is intrinsically bad, it’s best to consider what government is preventing them from doing and why.

    1. Sam
      Did you read ex kiwi forces on TS? He drops in his feelings about the matter now and then.

      1. Oh Y’know this has been a great theme of mine since refugees from the standard started showing up in 2015 during the run up to the U.S election, they were complaining about getting banned for what looks like routine left wing commentary. Weka, she boxes people into these narratives where they’ve got no place to go. Weka goes so deep into the Internet where they don’t release easily available articles or YouTube clips so these people that she boxes in have no place to go to get easy information and this is what she calls a pattern of behaviour but it’s purely her own biases and the biases of the rest of the authors at the standard.

        The standard represents an entire system that believes in peer review and forced citations and you have to go to university to have an opinion in there safe place (and I don’t trust them) they use to few resources and there’s to many sharp elbows. The counter to that is people should just assume that I’m wrong so I’ll eventually find out that I am wrong. And maybe there’s mod notes that no one pays attention to its just standard behaviour, but this pattern of behaviour that standard authors are so scared of doesn’t work anymore.

        So let’s just play with this, maybe I’m correct – maybe I’m wrong.

        We have an ability to do anything we want to do on blogs so long as we don’t get shut down/banned. How ever there’s a concern that as long as this internet world remains “gated.” So if for example we have this closed world of people pretending to talk amongst themselves and then you have institutions saying they’re only going to deal with authoritative sources then the problem is when you’ve got a state of pretend that’s taking place inside the gated institutional narrative then the institution will predicate its actions on the nonsense. So what ever we do on blogs (unless there’s an insulating layer) unless we can lob grenades over the walls of the citadel then they will continue to act as if we never said anything or that we said something first or pointed it out.

        It’s like we’re all at this kids magic show and the magician is completely incompetent, all the lights are on and we can see all the wires and trap doors and the magic show continues to go on. So everyone may see that it’s all bullshit but as long as the institutions agree to pretend that they believe the bullshit then we have a real problem that the blogs didn’t solve.

        The standard may not have started it but there’s this real problem where left wing activists are distributing misinformation and it’s a real problem. This idea of wasting your own time by working for free on the standard well then there whole model is based on click bait bullshit.

        Imagine if mainstream media completely leaves the building and it’s just us trading bullshit between ourselves but we are also the ones that control the institutions. This is the change Micky Savage (Greg Presland) wanted and that Chris Trotter rebelled against in his recent blogs. So voters get reality and we (the institutions) get to traffic in bullshit, but we’re also figuring out where we are going to stock masks or what our industrial policy is for dealing with tourism or how NZDF should be deployed and where are we going to send solders to protect our Sea Lanes of Communication (SLOC = Sea trade, undersea cables, satellites, air travel, industrial and energy policy) and all these kind of things.

        That’s what is so concerning. A lot of radically woke lefties are settling for being correct and making the rest of us lefties look like idiots and there point is okay you go be correct there but standard authors still control the levers over here. So those authors stick signs in front of people in moderator notes saying this is xenophobic and racist and so on, as if doing the opposite is some how much more intelligent where in actually fact those authors are just as much an idiot as anyone else who believes in the magic show.

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