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  1. It’s only in fairy tales and the pages of intellectual opinion where power is used wisely and well to eradicate evil in the world. The real world teaches very different lessons and it takes wilful and dedicated ignorance to fail to perceive the natural world.

    The successful application of war usually engenders praise among the entourage of the mega pastors and the state religions of intellectuals in the modern era. Of course if it all works then we will all be saluting the wisdom and statesmen of the American government in lands that we have turned into wreck and ruin.

    But force probably won’t work against China at great cost to us so perhaps the Chinese pivot strategy may have to be rethought. The reasons and commentary almost carries over with out thought from the days of the Iraq and Afghan invasions. Don’t think we need to review the facts that Iraq and Afghan is wrecked and ruined and that’s what China seeks to prevent. And I can’t half blame them.

  2. NZ as a small nation would benefit from the most independent foreign policy possible, independent of the US led 5 Eyes Club at least

    With Waihopai, Echelon, NSA’s XKeyscore, 5 Eyes info sharing, the multitude of Police special tactical groups, SIS and GCSB, extended surveillance powers and increased budgets under Mr Key, the snoops are already having a good old look at NZ citizens and internet traffic that passes through NZ

    is Huawei really anything to worry about in real terms? or more US anti competitive behaviour and geo politics under cover of “Security”?

  3. Yes it really is beyond belief. We go begging China for a free trade deal and surprise surprise they become a very important trading partner. We beg the USA for a trade deal and get strung out forever even after agreeing to hand over our sovereignty in the form of dispute tribunals and then completely cave in to USA on spurious claims of Huawei “security ” concerns. Unspecifieid of course and unable to be made public but “very serious” never the less. And then we call China belligerent. Pretty sure a trade deal means you at least get the same chances to compete on infrastructure builds as foreign companies whose governments dont have trade deals

  4. David Mahon, businessman based in China says we need to bend over for the Chinese, well fancy that.
    The only thing free in our Free Trade Agreement, is New Zealand’s precious water, our recreational fishing and our superannuation when you bring your grand parents over.
    Do we get the same in return or even the ability to buy land there?

    1. yes listened to moran this morning he is all about himself not our country or us we should not be bending over for no one but national have set a very bad precedent curtailing to the Chinese and now they expect us to bend over and shut the fuck up or we will leave your exports to rot in our ports= bullying

  5. Huawei offered Australia and others, complete and unrestricted access to their source code and equipment.

    No US firm would do that.

    Meanwhile NZ Govt and all its department use Microsoft OS which is secret code with back doors for NSA and M$.

    The CIA, US defense and many others won’t use Microsoft as only stupid people would not see the dangers of being spied upon by unscrupulous US information harvesters – NSA.

    Yet NZ worries about Huawei. Bullshit.

    1. Penguins of course us open source code developed and supported by a global community and closely guarded, very wisely.

      The option is available for all.

      No back doors, no corporate profiteering empire nor viruses and its free.

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