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  1. More power to you Ned.

    This is true reality as the cost of living is rising and income slips again.

  2. stop and think

    living wage 2014/2015 $18.80 p/h

    living wage 2015/2016 $19.25 p/h

    living wage 2016/2017 $20.20 p/h

    anyone remember the stagflation of the 70s?

    a living wage on its own is not the solution….we need to close up the spread at the same time (and/or implement REAL progressive taxation)….by all means implement a living wage BUT at he same time bring in a highest to lowest ratio….no more stratospheric CEO salary packages ( and control the inflation that way)

    1. Personally I agree, with your proposal to reduce pay at the very top Frank, however not everyone in the Living Wage Movement would, so at this time we focus on that single demand. I’m not convinced the LW alone would lead to stagflation anyway, but I still agree that we need real progressive taxation.

    2. The people who run the system call it inflation but it’s not really inflation at all (other than inflation of financial Ponzi schemes and bubbles): it’s devaluation of money.

      There is deliberate lowering of the value of money that ordinary citizens acquire (normally through hard work) in order to keep the fraudulent financial system -predicated on creating money out of thin air and charging interest on it- going just a little longer.

      Since fiat money is now a proxy for energy (largely fossil fuel energy) it naturally follows that the financial system will begin to collapse when the global decline in net energy reaches a critical point. That point is likely to be reached in the next two years.

      James Howard Kunstler summed up the predicament (again) recently:

      ‘…..since most of the things we do and produce in this economy are based on cheap oil — with no reality-based prospect of replacing it with so-called “renewables” or as yet undiscovered energy rescue remedies — we can’t generate enough wealth to maintain anything close to our assumed standard of living. We can’t even generate enough wealth to pay the interest on the debt we’ve racked up in order to hide our growing energy predicament. And that, in a nutshell, is what will blow up the financial system. And when that department of the economy goes, the rest will follow.

      So, the real issue hidden in plain sight is how America — indeed all the so-called “developed” nations — are going to navigate to a stepped-down mode of living, without slip-sliding all the way into a dark age, or something worse…..’

      http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/fumbling-towards-collapse/

      1. fiat money and low/zero interest as a proxy for dense energy is simply another way of saying borrowing from the future….and both are broadly true.

        However we are discussing the (re)distribution of that resource (as represented by money)….if we delve back too far into the fundamentals it becomes obvious the entire system is flawed and will ultimately collapse….does that mean we don’t attempt to address the distribution question?….at times I wonder if there’s any point myself.

  3. Funny how the argument against a living wage has now become “people will lose benefits” – is this because there is really strong proof that these increases DON”T in fact led to job losses? Or is it embarrassment that this Living Wage increase has been released on the same day a local public servant got a 25% pay rise bring his salary up to $1 million?

    p.s. wasn’t the rising minimum wage/ living wage leading to job loses argument always a shallow one? Surely if your (one) wage is enough to live on, doesn’t that mean you’re not going to need to take multiple jobs to survive, thus leaving some jobs for other people? Just a thought…

    1. Yeah as you say Cagey suddenly the EMA and Taxpayers Union give a shit about beneficiaries. It’s basically a concern troll.

  4. It’s hard to disagree with the desire to support our fellow citizens with a living wage but I’m not sure this is something that can easily be fixed with legislation. Solutions are going to be more complex than this, consider the following…

    I’ve recently returned from the UK where I encountered one of the “blood thirsty” bunch of middle managers I’ve ever had to deal with. They were a global company specialising in electrical component distribution who felt threatened by a strong union presence in their warehouse. Three years ago the workforce (175 people in one very large warehouse) asked for a 5% pay rise after not receiving pay rises for the previous 5 years.

    A very reasonable request – No? Well management’s response was devastating. 6 months ago this exact same warehouse now has 15 people, with the other 160 people unemployed.

    What did they do to achieve this? They “blackened” the warehouse, where there were people there are now industrial robots, picking and placing 24 hours a day 365 days a week.

    This is what the workforce is up against – living wages will be the least of our problems.

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