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  1. The National government took the first step towards reducing child poverty (having been complicit in many policies to increase it) by increasing the benefit by $25 per week in 2016. This appears to have led to a modest reduction in the number living in poverty. In principle, it demonstrates that you can “throw money at a problem” and being to solve it, which is the opposite of what we have been told for years.This points to what works… (Dr Liz Jordan, TDB.) Yep, I agree. Money needs to be thrown at Poverty in all its different guises. While agencies like Kids Can and other charities are out there providing a band aid and trying to help the impoverished, whoevers in government, should stop providing corporate welfare and direct it toward the people who need it most, our nations poor.

  2. The National government took the first step towards reducing child poverty (having been complicit in many policies to increase it) by increasing the benefit by $25 per week in 2016. This appears to have led to a modest reduction in the number living in poverty. In principle, it demonstrates that you can “throw money at a problem” and being to solve it, which is the opposite of what we have been told for years…This points to what works..
    (Dr. Liz Gordan, TDB) Well, I agree. It’s time to throw meaningful amounts of money at Poverty in all it’s different guises. Don’t pay any attention to what Bill says, it’s irrelevant. The vultures are circling, knives are being sharpened. No one’s going to care what an ex leader has to say.. He’s a gone burger..
    Just a thought, if the government are considering throwing money at a corporate yacht race or a horse racing place why not throw it at Kids Can, City Mission and all the other charities that provide real help to the impoverished…

  3. This would back up frank’s story that English is developing something of a rep for being “loose with the truth”. Ie, a frigging liar!!

    1. It shows the complexity of poverty measures, and how easy it is to exploit the numbers – and dangerously so because those statements made by Bill English and others are repeated in the media, allowing their supporters to applaud their self-proclaimed successes, regardless of the truth and the evidence. It causes confusion and it’s completely counter-productive to the real aim of reducing poverty among those most in need, and amounts to game playing with such a serious issue for political leverage.

    2. It is just further evidence of how complex measuring poverty actually is and how easily the numbers can be exploited. Moreover, it is dangerous, irresponsible and counter-productive to the real goal of actually helping children out of poverty, to draw a false picture of improvement with the figures presented out of context. The information is then repeated and disseminated widely as fact, creating confusion and poor framing of the real issue. Political game playing with children’s wellbeing is reprehensible, in my opinion!

    3. The National government took the first step towards reducing child poverty (having been complicit in many policies to increase it) by increasing the benefit by $25 per week in 2016. This appears to have led to a modest reduction in the number living in poverty.  In principle, it demonstrates that you can “throw money at a problem” and being to solve it, which is the opposite of what we have been told for years. This points to what works.
      (Dr Liz Gordon. TDB)
      Well I have to agree. If we want to stop Poverty in all its forms we have to throw meaningful amounts of money at it. Don’t believe or listen to Bill and Co. The vultures are circling. The knives are out and being sharpened. Soon Bill will be the Ex leader of the Also Ran Party. He’s a gone burger.
      Here’s a thought. If the current Government are thinking of throwing tax dollars at a corporate yacht race or even the horse racing industry (to late), why not throw it at Kids Can, City Mission and other worthwhile charitable organizations who are helping the impoverished right now, instead?

  4. The National government took the first step towards reducing child poverty (having been complicit in many policies to increase it) by increasing the benefit by $25 per week in 2016. This appears to have led to a modest reduction in the number living in poverty. In principle, it demonstrates that you can “throw money at a problem” and being to solve it, which is the opposite of what we have been told for years. This points to what works..
    (Dr Liz Gordon, TDB) Well I’m going to agree. If we want to stop Poverty in all its forms, we need to throw meaningful amounts of money at it. Don’t listen to what Bill is saying. It’s irrelevant. The vultures are circling. The knives are being sharpened. Soon Bill will be the Ex leader of the also ran party. He’s a gone burger! Here’s a thought. If the current government are thinking, of throwing money at a corporate yacht race or even horse racing, why not throw those dollars at Kids Can, City Mission and other worthy charitable organizations who are actually helping impoverished people right now, instead?

  5. Thank you for this Jeni.
    This basic framing and explanation of these statistics and definitions is nearly always absent when commentators from both sides of the spectrum (and the massive gang of pragmatic sneaks in ‘the middle’) talk about poverty measurement.

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