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  1. OK I understand “non-choice”.
    So what do we do instead?
    Surely, your arguments about successive presidential elections proves that they are non-elections manipulated by those in power to keep us powerless.
    So long as the focus remains on voting or non-voting in a futile 4 year election to select who will kill us, at home or as targets anywhere in the world, is irrational because it passively hands over power to the class enemy.
    Far better to focus on an alternative to these non-elections; how to organise in the workplaces, the streets, local co-ops, defence guards etc., coordinated, locally, nationally and internationally, to realise the potential power that the majority has to change society by building a new one from the bottom up.
    The ruling class hold on power is fragile in the face of our will to challenge it.

  2. Ok, it’s a bad choice for American voters. So what is the practical alternative?

    Trump is mad as a hatter and a billionaire nutter is not one I’d be trusting anywhere near the nuclear button.

    Vote Clinton. AT least the planet survives.

  3. Kieran, This bit intrigues me: “It is time to ask the question, which side are you on? Supporting Trump could be hateful or delusional or simply the product of desperation, but supporting Clinton (even out of fear) is a clear endorsement of neoliberalism, neoconservatism and empire. Do you think that your hatred of Trump can justify supporting the killing of tens of thousands in the Middle East? the suffering of tens of millions as whole countries are slowly ground up and turned into failed states to maintain US hegemony? the immiseration of hundreds of millions as neoliberalism continues its march towards a nightmare future? If you choose Clinton, whether you are witting or only half-witting, you are the enemy of humanity.”

    So would I be right in guessing that you might just be a paid spinmeister for the Trump election committee? Because that’s how you come across.

  4. Do you really expect people to read all this?
    Abridge and be a bit more pithy.
    All evidence suggests (or many people say) that Hillary will be the most progressive-minded president they have ever had in the US. So be happy.

    All this angst because a 70-something year old dude who made sweeping and largely flesh-less promises to sock it to the banks (and you know well enough could never have delivered), failed to get enough delegates to give Donald Trump a fair shot at winning in November.

    As you know, getting whatever programme through a dysfunctional Congress is pretty tough. Do you doubt that Obama was determined to close Gitmo? How did that work out? The GFC came along and all bets were off. The Democrat-based House of Reps lost courage and consequently lost their majority before much could be achieved.

    It is my belief that, whatever mud is slung the way of HRC, not least by absolutists like yourself, if the Dems get back control of both Houses of Congress, useful changes will be enacted. If they don’t, then the only advance should be a better balance on the Supreme Court – no minor thing. If the Dems don’t get either House then it will be more of the same as we have seen over the past 6 years. But at least the Bernie or Bust people will issue a ragged cheer, so that would be a bit of a happy ending.

  5. Thank you for a fantastic effort…

    The US is an empire and like all empires in the past sooner of later they crumble and decline…
    In the meantime millions die…

    Chris Trotter wants us to simply accept the lesser evil Clinton, as we are ripped apart by the stupidity of American politics, greed and racism. His options are outdated childish foolish and possibly insane.

    The US empire will implode as all empires have and they will rip themselves apart but not without destroying millions of innocent citizens of the world just as Hillary Clinton’s record shows.

    It was a long read, but it really hit home the predicament that US voters find themselves in.

    It is the natural outcome of a system where you can vote…but your vote is meaningless. This pretense of democracy is simply a means to elect a dictator who continues down the path of perpetual world war.

    I think Bernie Sanders was the United States last hope…but alas he was swallowed up by the corruption greed and money machine that is the US today.

  6. We do not need to support either Clinton or Trump, in reality it will turn out to become a nasty “same, same, but different’ for most of the world.

    But what we must do is to stop the notion of US-american exceptionalism which is deeply ingrained in both candidates and their policies, and the US-society as such.

    For this we have build up local resistance and global alliances across all continents, towards de-americanization of our lives, values and cultures.

    1. Exactly, Matchstick.
      You might start by giving up the internet, that most recent American imperial atrocity.

      You remind me of John Cleese as a revolutionary in the Life of Brian.

  7. A good, revealing post, and US voters have the choice between the pestilence and cholera, none else. Democracy is as much a farce as the “American Dream”.

  8. Some of these comments pretty much making the article’s point.

    Anyone who denies the monstrous nature of the US regime and its leaders has been drinking the funky koolaid.

  9. Thanks once more, Kieran 🙂

    The two or so critical comments above can be safely ignored. Most previous TDB blogs of this length get much less response than yours have.

    And the content is excellent. At last, a generously referenced article that illustrates convincingly that, hey, NZ isn’t the only country that does Dirty Politics.Though one would believe that if one relied only on the MSM, even sadly Radio NZ.

    Please keep posting here until Mr Trotter either drastically ups his game or fades into irrelevance.

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