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      1. Ukraine could start targeting facilities inside Russia or Western Russia like taking Vladivostock ?

        1. Open the War up on two fronts, then the Chinese might start taking more interest as they don’t want Ukranian Nazis in that part of the World. Vladivostock would be easy to capture and would give the Russian military two x battles to concentrate on. Interesting that Ukraine produces 15% of the World’s food supply so obviously strategically very important for Russia. The UN needs to extract it’s finger out of it’s anus and do something ie tell the Russian’s to fuck off home to Moscow otherwise the UN will put an International Peace Keeping Force into the Ukraine. It is not that fucking difficult IMHO ???

      2. By transitioning over time (if / when they lose the cities to Russian occupation) to irregular warfare strategy and tactics think use of IED’s / snipers etc as per Vietnam / Afghanistan / Iraq etc.
        Countering this kind of warfare is extermely difficult and perhaps impossible if you are operating in an environment with a hostile local population who refuse to admit defeat.
        Russia may win the battle but winning the war less than certain.

  1. I would say that the Ukrainian refugees are not looking to settle in the EU or UK. Once Putin is gone they will more than likely return. Unlike the middle eastern refugees who will neither go home or integrate.

    Add religion into the mix and you have short term christian refugees versus long term muslim refugees.

    Add demographics into the mix with the majority of short term Ukrainian refugees being women and children versus long term young man that do not want to integrate and live outside the norms of the society they seek to settle in.

    No hypocrisy at all, simply looking after ones own. Oh, is that racist?

    1. Not racist just realist – Ukrainian refugees would be unlikely to be attacking women and children on London’s streets with knives or mowing them down on the pavement in France in a truck in a misguided attempt to get to the virgins in paradise (or try to impose Sharia law for that matter) . .

      Yes not all Muslim refugees commit terrorist acts or even close but enough do all the same to make weathering such attacks become very old very fast.

  2. “Should Ukraine join NATO it would enable the US-led military alliance to establish missiles right up to the Russian border.”
    And, if Russia were to take over and incorporate Ukraine into Russia (where Putin believes it belongs) they would then have NATO right on their doorstep anyway. Not only that but the other border and near border countries would be even more committed to their NATO alliances and to the strengthening of their defences generally. Finland, with a massive Russian border, is now actively pursuing joining NATO.
    In short, as a strategy to buttress itself from NATO, the invasion of Ukraine is so spectacularly stupid that I wonder why it is so readily trotted out as a justification for Putin’s war.

    1. Exactly. It’s bloody curious that this isn’t being stated clearly in the media.

    2. Yup great point – Russia already has 2 Nato countries directly on their border (Estonia + Latvia) and if they were to ‘absorb’ Ukraine then they would be adding 4 more (Poland + Slovakia + Hungary + Romania) . . also like you say their actions are also only serving to unite existing Nato countries / is leading to an increase in their own (Nato countries) defence spending / otherwise non-aligned countries such as Finland and Sweden etc warming to the idea of also joining Nato.

    3. Keep up , Russia most definitely does not want to incorporate Ukraine, or even the 2 republics

      1. Usually, I’ve found, it’s better to watch what people do rather than accept what they say. Regardless, it doesn’t diminish the increased motivation for a powerful, well equipped and committed defence alliance among the Eastern European nations. Perhaps an alliance of those nations outside of NATO will develop.
        I wonder if Putin would be happy about Ukraine joining that. What do you think Francesca.

  3. “The public display of unqualified support by the European Union (EU) for Ukrainian refugees reeks of hypocrisy (of course, the United Kingdom just had to be the opposite) when compared with its appalling response to refugees from other parts of the world such as Africa, Asia and the Middle East.”

    If the above is indeed correct how is it that there there almost 850,000 Syrians now in Germany? 850,000!

    ‘In Europe, Germany is one of the countries hosting the most international migrants and between 2015 and 2019 alone more than 1,622,954 people registered as asylum seekers with Syrians being the largest single nationality.’

    https://archpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13690-021-00745-7#:~:text=In%20Europe%2C%20Germany%20is%20one,17%2C18%2C19%5D.

  4. “[Yanukovych] His electoral support was strongest in the regions of the country and less so in the capital (hence the name of his political party, the ‘Party of the Regions’). Elected Yanukovych was and overthrown he also was.”

    Yes and Zelensky was also elected, with most support from Eastern and Central Ukraine.

    Hypocrisy runs rife in the EU and NATO foreign policy for sure, but as another comment points out Europe, especially Germany has taken vast numbers of refugees in. Also since 2017 Ukrainians can travel visa-free to the EU, small point but they have a legal right to enter the EU temporarily.

  5. “[Yanukovych] His electoral support was strongest in the regions of the country and less so in the capital (hence the name of his political party, the ‘Party of the Regions’). Elected Yanukovych was and overthrown he also was.”

    Yes, and Zelensky was also elected, with most support from Eastern and Central Ukraine, while I agree with much of the article, it’s funny how this was omitted in the historical recap.

    One addition to the refugee debate I’ve not seen mentioned anywhere, since 2017 Ukrainians can travel visa-free, so they have a legal right to enter the EU and stay temporarily.

    1. “Zelensky was also elected, with most support from Eastern and Central Ukraine,” ,,,,, yes he was born there and the comedy where he played the president was shot in russian and dubbed in Ukrainian.

      But , he was elected on a pro-peace with Russia platform,,,, his attempts to stop fascists shelling of Donbass was met with refusal and contempt ,,,, he was also warned any serious attempts to enforce the Minsk peace agreements would see him lynched and strung up outside Parliament.

      It appears he received no support for peace from the usa ,,,, who arm and train the Nazis. https://youtu.be/lh4ClXnv9w8?t=1161

      Bio-hazard Numan and the usa have brought about this phase of their war.

  6. Ukraine could start targeting facilities inside Russia or Western Russia like taking Vladivostock ?

  7. Evidently the Grey Ghost was shot down the other day. RIP the Grey Ghost a true Ukrainian Patriot.

    1. Francesca has already pointed out that the whole Grey Ghost thing has been debunked by the BBC. You do love to naively drink in the propaganda, don’t you Ngungukai?

      1. Drinking too much Ukranian Kool Aid, it was actually a m8’s son who told me that, so someone else feeding me bullshit ?

  8. This is a global conflict affecting fuel prices and systems. I wonder how anyone can treat it as a source of entertainment but there it is. Nato chief now aiming to head the world bank not a particularly good look considering world bank paying millions into Ukraine and ignoring Afghanistan being royally ripped off three ways before breakfast. The governments so keen to impose sanctions look a bit dumb when there is no nickel or whatever to make stainless etc

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