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  1. If it’s not going to provide separate facilities and it will employ the same people as in the general health system, how is it going to achieve anything other than add overhead through bureaucracy?

  2. My major comment would be – was socioeconomic factors taken into account when conducting research surrounding Maori health? I believe there is a real reluctance to acknowledge that Maori are disparate and that -possibly – the inequity for Maori health are a result of a large proportion of them in poverty not race: correlation not causation (because they don’t want to be considered rascist). If this is the case, and it is not acknowledged, there is likely it be middle class capture of any steps to address this, where as a focus on those poor, rural peoples could really make a difference. As Rev Barber of the Poor Peoples Campaign “When you lift the lowest boat, you lift all boats”

  3. I also don’t have a problem with Te Ake Wha Ora as long as they are willing to look into this and put their money into helping their people who are really needing this extra help not just general – which will result in these people still being disadvantaged

  4. Access to health care is more a class than ethnic issue.

    Astonishing the amount of abused children who end up in hospital whose parents go to McDonalds first.

    Instead of needing a dual health system for woke thinkers, maybe spend the time to make sure that the current one is better resourced for all.

    It is not the health cares fault when parents either hide their kids injuries or go to McD’s first. Mostly it is a class issue.

    It is not the health cares fault when Maori are living in un healthy motels and hotels or Kainga ora state houses that have not been upgraded or if the tenants are attacking their neighbours and own housing, bringing their kids up in gang and meth houses or suffer family abuse.

    Poor diet is a big issue, obesity, smoking, diabetes. Having liquor shops in every corner, hugs for drug smugglers and highly processed food as the staple in supermarkets isn’t helping.

    Most of NZ’s issues are class based – government have spent a fortune on all these dual care for Maori but little to show for it, in fact it seems to be getting worse as a lack of responsibility and sense of entitlement in gang circles which is growing, is empowered by woke and government to accept that kids will grow up like that with those values.

    I believe there is institutional racism, but the woke reverse racists is becoming a joke where every problem is now blamed on colonial imperialism and a hand out for more and more money being siphoned off by people who now demand it or using it to self profit or pet projects. The money isn’t getting to the people who need it, that is for sure!

    The only way to overcome class is quality education, but the down scaling and anti science woke mantra in NZ education is making kids in NZ less educated and falling behind international circles with unqualified people on subject matter, making up the information leading with race not international knowledge. It is not going to help train more doctors and nurses, they won’t have the education to actually get into our few places with our education system being based on attracting international money now anyway not local skills.

  5. At a time when both money and staff are in short supply why are we duplicating health needs .Pakeha, Maori, Pacifica, Asian,Indian all bleed the same blood have the same aches and pain and the same mental needs.

    1. Incorrect. 69% of those suffering mental health issues are represented by Maori. So no, we don’t all bleed the same.

  6. It will be sometime till we see if this initiative has worked or not.

    Like so many issues we have likely failed to identify why Maori health stats are so poor.

    A genuine question? If you do a class based analysis how do the stats compare?

  7. Not everyone exhibits the same behaviour, and this applies to groups of people as well. Behaviour as an input, leads to certain outputs. It is a simple matter of causality.

    The problem here isn’t that Maori (be they children or adults) don’t have access to healthcare if they need it, the problem is (in terms of group averages) Maori lead more unhealthy lifestyles than others. Of course you will see worse health outcomes when the inputs differ. The same applies with something like lower education achievement by Maori: if you don’t do the work, you won’t get good results.

    Maori can be given all of the special attention and targeted services in the world, but if they don’t change their behaviour at the level of inputs, then outcomes will never change.

    1. That is a ridiculously simplistic take on a complicated issue.

      Look at MS. New Zealand is a high risk country in general but the prevalence in Māori is way lower than those of European descent. Should we cut spend ( granted PHARMAC are tight arses) on all those white folk for being “unhealthy”

  8. I am very interested in the research done in the Dunedin Longitudinal study, which showed that people who demonstrated less self control as young as three, showed power outcomes income wise, had higher rates of criminal behaviour, drug abuse and gambling problems. They also had pooper health outcomes. This makes a lot of sense to me and this discovery should be used to improve outcomes

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