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  1. The New Zealand Herald has done an outstanding job at pulling together the voices for and against the TPP

    These are probably and largely lost in the wilderness because people who object to being lied to have stopped reading the Herald.

  2. Even a cursory look at the list of corporations with access to the negotiation will confirm that these are almost 100% U.S.-centric or U.S. owned.

    For example – Fontera doesn’t appear but the Alliance of Western Milk Producers (California),American Butter Institute, American Dairy Products Institute, Dairy Farmers of America, Inc. , International Dairy Foods Association (Washington), Meadow Brook Dairy Farms (U.S.A.), U.S. Dairy Export Council – all do

    NZ has been done over like a dog’s dinner.

  3. Very well produced argument, Grayham,

    Can you forward to all the media please as we need to have this displayed for the people to see?

  4. ‘over the next 20 years, without the TPP, our GDP will grow by 47 percent. Over the next 20 years, with the TPP our GDP will grow by 47.9 percent.’

    Pure fantasy, of course, because there is no ‘over the next 20 years’.

    Firstly, the global economic system is already in the early stages of collapse (as indicated by negative interest rates, shrinking international trade and the bursting of numerous bubbles). Six years of kicking the can down the road since the last crisis has made everything worse, much worse. The system is so rotten it cannot be fixed.

    Secondly, GDP is a phony measure of wealth creation and assigns positive values to destruction. Industrial humans have now destroyed so much of the natural world it will not support life-as-we-know-it for another 20 years.

    Thirdly, even if the first two objections were not true, there is no energy supply for 20 years more of BAU. Global net energy peaked a decade ago, and after many years of desperation attempts to prop things up, the energy cliff lies at the end of 2016.

    2016 is almost certainly the year everything changes.

    1. But those projections though.

      I was under the impression that tresuary wonks believed that deep economic down turns couldn’t exist because of monatary and fiscal policy. Hope I don’t have to insert a sarcasm tag

  5. In the TTPA (Article 29.6) it says : “…provided that such measures are not used as a means of arbitrary or unjustified discrimination against persons of the other parties or as a disguised restriction on trade in goods, trade in services and investment, nothing in this agreement shall preclude the adoption by New Zealand of measures it deems necessary to accord more favourable treatment to Maori in respect of matters covered by this agreement, including in fulfilment of its obligations under the Treaty of Waitangi”.

    This seems pretty clear to me. Now, if people are arguing the TTPA will harm Maori it seems they haven’t read it. This is just an excuse to fight western, progressive democratic systems.

    1. “…provided that such measures are not used as a means of arbitrary or unjustified discrimination against persons of the other parties or as a disguised restriction on trade in goods, trade in services and investment…” Much is open to interpretation here – by who?

    2. The Treaty of Waitangi has only been addressed in the past 40 years b4 that it got walked over by the Settlor Governments, obviously you do not understand how the multi nationals operate in todays world?

  6. I doubt Key, Joyce or Groser understand the TPPA Agreement, one is a Currency Trader, one a Media Owner and the other a Professional Government Bludger?

  7. I doubt Key, Joyce or Groser understand the TPPA Agreement, one is a Currency Trader, one a Media Owner and the other a Professional Government Bludger?

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