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  1. It’s laughable when people say that they won’t consume products “grown in a lab” when the technology used now to extract proteins from milk is anything but natural.

    1. You could say that Bread, Beer, Yoghurt, Cheese, etc are all “grown in a lab” as they all use biological processes to create the end product yet because we are used to them from thousands of years of use the connection is not made.

    2. The household kitchen is, in essence, a food processing laboratory.

  2. I worked in the dairy industry for 40 of years.
    For the last 20 of those we were hammered with the adding value mantra and spent much of my time working on developing products and processes that were designed to put more money into farmers pockets.
    I don’t think that aim was ever achieved and has obviously now been abandoned.

  3. A couple of comments;

    You’ve criticised the farming industry for cherry picking data, and yet you’ve only selected FAO data that excludes pre-farmgate emissions. Do you seriously think that emissions associated with producing animal feed in the US dairy industry shouldn’t be included in their footprint?

    Fonterra’s annual results are all published. You seem to be confused because their dairy ingredients seems to be their most highly profitable way to sell milk. Their consumer business requires 26% of Fonterra’s capital base and generates 7% of their underlying return. These brands are not profitable compared to their B2B business.

    Your belief that the industry is sunset is childlike. Dairy is the globes most highest value agricultural trade-able commodity. It’s not going anywhere, and quoting failed micro biologist who are trying to find to fund their hobbies shows your ignorance of the actual market realities.

    1. The way Fonterra calculates the milk price means that comparing profit between different business units is a waste of time.
      The milk price calculation is notional and based on he assumption Fonterra is an efficient producer of commodities, which of course is patent nonsense.
      So the milk price is overstated and this means that the cost of milk to the consumer business is overstated and so profits are understated.
      The milk pay out has always been subsidised by the value added dividend and this is the way Fonterra wants it, as otherwise the pay out is uncompetitive and they lose suppliers to the competition.
      And so NZ loses the ability to add value so Fonterra can protect its inefficiencies against competition.

    2. Do you not know about horticulture? They are paying obscene amounts just for the licence to grow gold kiwifruit so your idea that Dairy is the highest value traded commodity can only be because you are ignorant of the market realities.

    3. Well put .As a Greenie the farmers are enemy number one on this sight and all those associated are damned as well.Books were going to be replaced by Kindle but it never happened. Farmers and cows will be here long after we are gone .

  4. Fonterra makes no money on those brands in overseas markets, they break even at best or make sizeable losses depending on the brand and the market.
    And of course this has to be offset by price gouging in the NZ market where everyone knows we are being hammered for a sliver of cheese or dollop of yogurt.
    So Fonterra are just bailing before the ComCom comes a knocking at their door.

  5. It’s got to be a questionable strategic decision in a time where anyone in a deep trading relationship with China is vulnerable to manipulation.
    Ask the Aussies.
    And there are issues with social license over the creation of the Fonterra monopoly (Labour) which seems to now be sidestepping any putting back of quality let alone low cost product to the citizens of the country that allowed it.

    This is short term thinking that leaves the countries export income less diversified and more exposed.
    It will also increase anti farmer sentiment.

  6. This is the reason National have not got a plan to charge farmers for pollution .All the farms will be abandoned and nature will swallow them up and regenerate back to how the land was before the white men stole it and fucked it up .

  7. I remember when Roger Douglas promised us a high skill high wage economy. I remember when he and other neoliberals promised that we would be adding value to the stuff that we export. For fuck’s sake we are still exporting pretty much unaltered commodities. We’ll be price takers for the foreseeable future if we keep doing this. There will always be a market for cows milk, but I suspect it will become more of a luxury item for people who want “natural” products. That means we gotta do something other than turn it into powder and send it overseas.

  8. In the 1960s the NZ milk industry was going to solve global hunger with the new wonder product, the milk biscuit. It turned out that they simply gave the world’s poorest severe diarrhea.

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