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  1. It’s immaterial because neither Labour nor the Greens will be in the next government.

  2. For Labour it doesn’t matter whether its sensible or just: its entirely about virtue signalling its envy “othering” of those who aren’t part of its dependency voter base.

  3. I wrote months ago here that it was between TPM and Greens as to party vote, as a pākehā am going with Te Pāti Māori this time just as I voted Mana before.

    The strategic task for the working class is clear in this Parliamentary General Election: keep Natzos and Actoids well away from office, and deal with the rest after October 14 result is in. A strong Green/TPM turnout will sit the neo Blairists on their arses.

    NZ’s only practicing “Gonzo” blogger, Bomber Bradbury, is correct that the public sector leaks and undermines big time in the interests of capital. If even “Robbo” is now supporting some form of wealth tax/CGT, wtf is going on with Chipkins response? It is “dark energy” that is what, finance capital have kneecapped the PM.

    1. So I can party vote Te Pate Maori…. Excellent news!! I’m in Chlöe Swarbricks electorate, and want to party vote TPM as a pakeha… Thanks for that..
      “wtf is going on with Chipkins response?”.. I think there is a clue in the phrase “any Labour led Government he leads”… Or, “any government he leads” if one prefers…

  4. Problem with TPM and Tamahere is that he wont answer if Maori wealth will be taxed. His close friend in the Labour party says;

    “Jackson said the Māori economy has grown from $16 billion to $70 billion in 20 years, and with a projected growth of 5 percent per annum, that’s expected to reach $100 billion in assets by 2030.”

    1.5% wealth tax on that $100B will be $1.5B per annum.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/the-maori-economy-is-booming-and-will-be-worth-100-billion-by-2030/L73MCPZMUFGRVEXWQTXL7XC62Q/

    Chur bro !!

  5. Not only will I be voting for them, I will have a billboard and I joined the party last year. The Greens, too busy with all that bullshit he she it they…………..

  6. Since Martyn brought it up: Where is Laila Harré? Where is Matt Robson? Where are Hamish MacIntyre and Frank Grover?

    None of the current parties have popular policies, or popular leaders, or even many competent politicians. Sure sounds like the perfect storm for the launch of a new Third Party (or two).

    If not now, then when?

    Asking the electorate to trust two ol’ Clintonite hitmen like J.T. & Chippy just won’t cut it any more. That con worked from 1979-2014, but no longer — and more toxic identity politics won’t save them.

    1. How many of us are thinking about new ways – must be thousands. When the time is right for the left and both Labour and Greens can’t get onto the matters that they are uniquely placed to attend to, and have held themselves out as being the Good Pollies of NZ/AO – and they were found to be MIA when required, well they can limp along in the rear of a new party with verve and practicality.

      Not for the best people though, they can change their curtains, put up some of those sun screens ready for next year, supposed to be hotter, and spend their time effectively. We others need to step up and put in whatever we have available to fill the holes in the fabric of our society.

  7. I am no expert and my information may be wrong but I understand only 3 countries have a wealth tax .One of those is Norway who is fighting hard to stop money vanishing overseas.
    A wealth tax would be hard to police and return little in return .GST off food has been debunked by all tax reviews since it came in .We have one of the best and easy GST type scheme in the World why stuff it up for little reward .If an one thinks removing gst of food would mean a 15 percent drop in prices know little about how business operates.
    I can only talk from a limited group of friends and what I gleen from the papers and google but I wonder how many Pakeha would vote for the Maori Party. How many Maori have lost faith in the system and will not turn out to vote like they avoided the cencus and vaccinations .

    1. And National govern for their donors and farmers only, that’s separatism.

  8. Both Labour and National will always back down on any “transformative” policy that is an election loser – and almost all “transformative” policy is an election loser (i.e. people by and large hate radical change). This is sort of a good thing, since radical transformative policy is almost always highly destructive to both the economy/society and thus will (almost) always be rejected. Robert Muldoon’s National and David Lange’s Labour are exceptions. Neither of those Governments are fondly remembered.

  9. I think the major parties have a responsibility to rule out some of the things their support parties want. They owe that to the electorate.
    The small parties do not have the power that is represented here. The reason being that they have no other option. None of them are middle parties able to swing either way. In short they can’t force fundamentally unpalatable things onto their major party. As with the Greens and TPM, so with Act.
    The major party provides the PM and the majority of the Cabinet including Finance. Any policies of the coalition have to be owned by the PM. He/She is the primary advocate of the government and also has to defend the government on radio and TV. They can’t effectively do that on policies they fundamentally don’t believe in.

  10. The term ‘traitor’ is not used often enough.

    Whether one considers an American-loving neoliberal dog like Hipkins or Anderson just a standard ‘traitor’, a class traitor, a people’s traitor, or whatever- it cannot be disputed. These dogs are all traitors to this country. They deserve the highest justice.

  11. Speaking of reading the room, so many people don’t realize TPM will form the next government.

    1. And you’re surprised? Of course it is reasonable to ask why the Pm would be making the statement he did, at the time he did, knowing the groundswell of support for Te Pati Maori policies among those who normally wouldn’t vote, among others, is building towards an inevitable flashpoint…
      Following the current paradigm, the only difference between the two major power blocs is that the flashpoint will be reached much faster under a national led government than the current status quo would..
      I can see historical parallels between Micheal Joseph Savage and john Tamihere emerging here..
      Maybe not the same path to power, but historically significant nonetheless, if that’s where “fate” takes us.. First stop Deputy PM? 😉

  12. If Grant tried to get important tax changes through (well any), and got blocked that’s a sorry thing. And I must say sorry to Grant as I didn’t think he had the guts to try.

  13. We already have a party that will do the things that Labour is to frightened to do.

    Te Pati Maori, they will launch their tax policy in the next few weeks and it will be a cracker, and if people are concerned about the poorest and disenfranchised in our society then people need to vote for Te Pati Maori.

    Neither of the main parties are appealing to many many people the transformational government that did shit all. and those nasty nasty people on the real right who believe that everyone should simply be responsible for themselves and live on the streets if need be.

    1. I am a 74 year old Pakeha living in a small Waikato town. I will be voting TPM. The current Labour Party government claims it cares about the impoverished. They are as convincing as a Rugby League scrum

  14. True Thomas Ginny Anderson could not read a room on anything. She is after all FOURTH choice as labour Police minister, behind Nash, o Connor , potu and someone else I can’t remember. Been so many useless minister s .

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