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  1. Didnt get past the first sentence where you dropped the genocide accusation.
    It is not.
    A dictionary might help.

    1. No wonder you are so ignorant if you refuse to consider all the evidence. While it has been many decades since I was in school the aim in education then was to consider all the evidence or relevant laws/information for technical, science, math subjects and arrive at a correct answer. The idea that someone would say “I read the first sentence but don’t agree” would not be considered something to boast about and would be considered by most as a sign of failure.
      While you might be happy to change the definition of words in the English language you are only fooling yourself and the inevitable few who missed out on the logical thinking gene.

      1. You have of course noted how readily Erdogan takes advantage of Middle Eastern wars to bomb the Kurds into oblivion eh Bonnie?

    2. @Jack. There must be forums/blogs which support genocide out there- if you look a bit harder you’ll find a home soon.

    3. “Didnt get past the first sentence”
      – Brandishing your intellectual chops will get you nowhere!

    4. Dictionary definition of Genocide for lazy people like Hasbara jack.
      “The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group”.

      1. Example 1: Turkish bombing of Kurds?
        Example 2: Genocide of Christians in the Middle East and The African continent?
        Do lazy people take note fingrinn?

  2. “The potency of Palestine as a laboratory for methods of controlling unwanted people”

    A lot of interesting points to talk about but the above resonates with me the most, in as much as the malicious destruction of Gaza and its people is a potential prelude of what may befall us all. Think about it. We have politicians who condemn the actions of one side, but then they turn a blind eye to the actions of the other side, basically enabling genocide to take place. We have a media that acts similarly. Thus, we have two pillars of democracy that have shown themselves to be supporters of “controlling unwanted people”.

    Now, how easy, or how long (or short) will it be before we all potentially become candidates of the “unwanted”. The control mechanisms are largely already there, helped along by the “Palestinian lab’. The pollies and the media have shown that they have few qualms in controlling the unwanted.

    We have also had a recent global crisis where by a small segment of society quickly become a minority – a part of the unwanted, and with an even bigger crisis looming large over us all, how many more people will soon qualify, therefore swell the ranks of the unwanted?

    “The Palestine Laboratory”, this effin tragedy, as we can clearly see, it really is a warning for us all.

    1. Can we apply the “proven intent” retrospectively do you think Geoff? To the Armenian genocide which Turkey refuses to acknowledge? Or do we apply it only since 1948 and only to Israel?

      1. The classic Hasbara of “look over there” nothing to see. The reality is you cannot claim protected status because of the Holocaust whilst committing war crimes, its repugnant to all victims and the height of hypocrisy.

  3. Ummmm so what has happened to the billions in aid and support that has been fed to the Palestinians over the past few years? Surely the Hamas government has spend that on it’s people and infrastructure or do the leaders only spend it on their Qatari lifestyle?

    1. So you think it would be better to spend the aid through Israel so they can take most of it instead? Do you not know that corruption is endemic throughout most of the world so there is not usually a graft-free way to help others?

  4. When a parrot says hasbara. The parrot trainer is imposing their explaining is losing narrative.

    So the parrot is saying loser. It is that sophisticated. That many think it is clever to be a parrot.

  5. The marginalisation of the left and the ethnic cleansing of the left was not just the McCarthyism era, it is still going on. It is a global operation

    The obsession with this international issue is like the apartheid one of the 70’s and the anti-nuclear one of the 1980’s, it serves as a distraction from the suppression of the economic and political left.

    Most involved have missed the development of the surveillance state and a growing capability derived from technological advances to engage in psychological warfare operations against the domestic population.

  6. Dr. Gabor Mate is such an amazing human being.

    I don’t think I have heard anyone speak with such empathy, knowledge, humanity and clarity about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

    In it, he outlines the historical conflict. That in itself is worth a listen.

    Gabor Mate is a holocaust survivor, who once was a Zionist, but who now supports the Palestinian people’s right for their own land.

    There are lessons for Aotearoa New Zealand here as well, especially with the direction of the new government. Gabor Mate lives in Canada and we should listen to his thoughts there. Many people here, like many Israelis, have little knowledge, understanding or lived experience of the oppressed and colonised people.

    He references the Hungarian experience of 1956 and the break up of Yugoslavia in the 1990s.

    This video is worth of a post in its own right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph9XF39yjgU&t=868s

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