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  1. Why am I NOT surprised at any of this!
    The way various gummint fiefdoms are run encourages that attitude among the senior and muddle ranks:
    we’re not here to enforce the law, we ARE the law.
    MoBIE is particularly bad at it also it’s rife elsewhere, as we’ve seen (NZTA, Krekshuns, MSD, etc,, etc)

    “We saw the consequences of that several months ago, when it turned out that the people who’d in theory designed and ‘driven’ the system up in Cabinet – were being fed what now appears to be patent misinformation”
    And sadly members of Cabinet have complete “faith” in them – Paul Buchanan has described it best elsewhere: ‘Ministerial Capture’. Ministers either seem to think they have to publicly support them even IF they’re aware that gatekeeping and bullshit is going on. Better they said nothing and expressed their concern via what is appropriate channels in the first instance such as the SSC – although I’m not sure some Ministers actually realise what’s happening, possibly because of where they’ve come from themselves, or malfunctioning bullshit detectors or whatever.
    In the case of the Ministry for Everything, its rife across all the Bizznizz Units or Cost Centres or however the hell they’ve built this bugger’s muddle of an institution. No doubt though in the mind of its Mr Fixit and failed zoologist God, it’s working as designed. Failed restructures, high staff turnover and burnout among the lower ranks, countless c o u n t l e s s COUNTLESS cases of people that have been on the receiving end of its “expertise” doesn’t seem to get through to its ‘responsible ministers’. Clee and Kalogirou are just another couple of its casualties (rhubarb rhubarb in this space going forward)
    It’s actually one of the main reasons I can no longer support Labour after a lifetime. They’re going to have to do something pretty bloody radical before they’ll get my party vote again. Peeling it apart, and one or two other institutions wouldn’t be a bad start. There’s probably more chance though of the ‘officials’ they have complete faith in being issued with lathi sticks to control the plebs.

  2. Unfortunately the border defence systems we have in place for protection rely on people to be involved. There are always going to be those who don’t or can’t function in ways we would think unquestionably perfect. A massive work force is involved filling a vast range of jobs.

    What is the answer? From the start of impact of the pandemic it was clear there were more expert epidemiologists online than existed with formal qualifications and experience. Everyone too appreciated the nuances of the activity involved in running or being involved in the isolation facilities. We knew how to do it and we wouldn’t have made the cock-ups.

    Maybe constructing a Super Isolation and Quarantine facility for thousands is the way to go. A dedicated, trained, ‘on the same page’ workforce ready to go could be on standby.

    It would make the job easier for the media. They would only have one place to go to find someone disgruntled about a breakfast being cold or late. They’d know for sure where any ‘failure at the border’ occurred if some disease ‘got out.’ (Or would they the way things work with bugs and people?)

    Mostly though we would know who to blame when needed. One head on the block each time. Although on second thoughts that would take the sport out of it – sack just the head of the place? Not those who appointed them? Or the relevant Minister? Or the PM?

  3. I have always thought that we must have been extremely lucky plus our location and small population which has kept us safe from covid.
    The fact that the government in control is the same government that gave us kiwibuildand generally stuffed the private housing market has not given us light rail the list could go on . Before the election you could say there was a good head 3 good support and the rest were empty chairs but now even those at the top are losing their shine .

  4. Has it not been obvious from the beginning that if a person is suffering and diagnosed with an extremely deadly, contagious disease they belong in a hospital and not vacationing in a hotel? Hotels were not built as medical facilities and every person visiting or returning deserves to be treated by New Zealand’s world class medical system. All these people deserve the dignity to be treated by doctors and to be staying in a proper medical center to receive proper information and advise that is guaranteed professional and top notch.

  5. This article is very interesting, just a few days prior to the Pullman outbreak. I noted while working very close by that conversation’s we’re being had through said fence with regularity and on one occasion saw items passed through the fence which didn’t have a 2m spread as described it was more like 1.5 so an easy reach.
    I raised it through various avenues and had zero response. I note that the fence in questionwas repositioned post the well publicized issues.
    I suspect we dodged a bullet.

  6. Spinning and lies are much easier than actually dealing with problems. You have to pester these buggers in management and make the problem painful *for them personally* in order to overcome the customary bureaucratic inertia

  7. @ Angie Marino.
    Covic-19 is NOT “an extremely deadly, contagious disease”. The fatality rate world-wide is less than 1%. Covid-19 is a mild flu-like infection. Please don’t magnify its significance. Earth & its people have gone through far more significant threats to health than Covid-19.

    1. Untrue.

      From John Hopkins Medicine:

      “COVID-19: There have been approximately 2,487,568 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 502,681 people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and February 24, 2021.*

      Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.”

      ref:https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

      I suggest your covid denying misinformation is unhelpful, to put it mildly.

      1. Our PM keeps saying it’s a ‘tricky’ virus. It sure is, it doesn’t seem to kill off those who keep shouting “It’s just the flu,” or “It’s not serious, to’s just another thing.” We’ve been hearing them for a year.

  8. The point it all went pear-shaped was the point someone thought to publicly question the authority of a military installation. I mean really. The military? The “we don’t shout at people anymore”, military?”
    When my neighbours start throwing furniture out the windows during one of their arguments, I look around for possible unintended victims and if there aren’t any I don’t call the cops, because they tend to make things worse. Now if I was travelling internationally during a global pandemic, and knew i was going to spend two weeks or more under martial law, guess what I wouldn’t do? Complain about a lack of yoga facilities for old men. It’s even contrary to the philosphies surrounding yoga! This will sound like blaming the victims, but I think they are more like people who lack environmental awareness. If there was some sort of sexual or physical abuse going on, then yeah, jump up and down. But yoga? They aren’t in prison, they are there voluntarily. A criminal usually doesn’t have the option of “well if you don’t like it don’t do the crime.” Jetsetters scrambling around the globe for whatever reason and demonstrating their total lack of interest in anything other than themselves doesn’t reach my sympathy radar. I have no interest in bolstering the “rights” of people intent on becoming even dumber than they are. Everything that happened after the point of trying to tell the military they were wrong was just NZ culture being expressed. Doesn’t make the abuses of power, right, doesn’t mean NZ culture is OK, it just is what it is – so plan accordingly. Your points about the stupidity of it all and the danger I accept.

  9. FFS these facilities are not supposed to be a Club Med. There has been too much trust in inmates since those two woman were trusted to drive directly to Wellington last year (but visited their friends). You cant trust anyone so its about time everyone should be restricted to their rooms and not allowed out to wander around. Some 50 incidents out of 115,000 returnees passing through the hotels in 11 months sounds like good safe odds to me. MIQ should have apologised to the couple sack the NZDF person and get on with it. You seem to put a lot of effort into such a trivial issue. These front line staff must be stressed out and have enough challenges to contend with without some do-gooder interfering and wasting their time. There seems to be more satisfied inmates at the MIQ hotels than moaners – everyone will be happier when you are all discharged.

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