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  1. A good item.

    I have one other point to remember. While I am no fan of Corrections who should be doing far better, we need to stop blaming them for the prison population being so high and including so many Maori. Let us remember that it is not Corrections that puts them in prison. The Police arrest them, hopefully in accordnace with the law, and the courts sentence them. Corrections are then left with the problem of dealing with what they are given.

  2. Corrections are still part of the problem they are part of a racist and bias justice system having experienced the justice system even some of the judges and their staff are bloody racists old swines. I have sat in court and seen the circus one line for maori remand in custody and another line for Pakeha remanded at large.
    When are pakeha going to release who initially got all the state jobs when we created our welfare state and who got the best houses in the nice areas not us no we didn’t have the jobs they all went to people of the same colour now we have the jobs and the state is being cut to the bone same old same old don’t tell me we all had the same opportunities that is simply not true

  3. I had a quick look at the corrections data on the prison muster.
    Between 2000 and 2014 prison numbers were fairly fixed at around 8000 men – 20% on remand and 80% sentenced.

    In Dec 2016 the total had jumped to 9219, with 28% on remand. Most of the extra prison numbers are driven by people held on remand.

    The data also shows 20% of the muster is in for sexual offences, 38% violence, 20% dishonesty, 13% drugs and antisocial and 3.3% traffic.
    I’m not sure there is much scope to improve Maori prison statistics by releasing those incarcerated for “unpaid fines and marijuana use”.

    Making out prisoners to be the victims will in many cases be very hurtful to the victims of their crime. Most of people in prison will have done something terrible. Taking the aggregate of the prison muster and calling for reform ignores the individual misery of the victims that has led us to this situation.

    It’s up to the Probation people (like your mother by the sounds) to work out whether prisoners up for release will be likely to reoffend.
    It doesn’t seem easy to legally define the “evil or sub-human ones” (your mothers words) but either way the prisons will need to stay for these people at least.

    Finally, I’ve always thought when someone calls for “leadership” on a particular issue what they really mean is they want public opinion to be ignored.

    1. You’re being reasonable. This is supposed to be emotive. 😉

      Further comment – not directed at JLO73:
      And the other 50%? Do they have ‘cultural needs’? Have they come from regrettable pasts? Do they reoffend at similar rates?

      Balance – not dog whistles or parochialism, please.

    2. really JL073 can you tell me how you know prisoners aren’t victims because many are and whats with the f…up name

  4. This idea that maoris are in prison simply because of marijuana or unpaid fines is outright lies, I’d like to know where you got this information from.
    The prisons are overpopulated and people are being imprisoned too often but this has nothing to do with race.
    According to the latest statistics I could find the largest percentage for drugs was only 16% (in the 40-45 age group) and was only in the single digits for other ages, unpaid fines was so low it didn’t even register.

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