More people oppose Treaty Referendum Bill than support it and why that’s a danger for NZF and National
Poll: More NZers oppose than support Treaty Principles Bill
More New Zealanders are opposed than support the Treaty Principles Bill according to a new 1News Verian poll, but a significant number say they don’t know enough about it.
This should surprise no one…
Do you support or oppose the bill or not know enough to say?
Support – 23%
Oppose – 36%
Don’t know enough about the bill – 39%
Prefer not to say – 2%
…84 000 at the Hikoi tells you a vast chunk of civil society see the Treaty as a positive, not a force for division.
The really interesting insight is who loves it the most…
Those groups of eligible voters who were more likely than average (23%) to support the bill were:
ACT Party supporters – 77%
New Zealand First supporters – 48%
Men aged 55+ – 40%
National Party supporters – 30%
…I’ve argued the Left have underestimated David Seymour, that our middle class activists provided him with political ammunition for culture wars we couldn’t win.
Right now however it is the Right who are underestimating him.
His 6 month race stunt is aimed at harvesting the 48% of NZF and 30% of National voters who support his bill.
I’ve been arguing thanks to the decline of journalism, the rise of social media hate algorithms and Seymour’s cunning, ACT can aim to be in double digits at the next election, but all to the cost of the Right.
He will cannibalise National vote and enough NZF vote to sink Winston under 5%.
Meanwhile, the extremeness of the Treaty Principles Referendum has given the Māori Party the capacity to reach into the traditional none vote (which was always overwhelmingly Māori) and bring them into the democratic franchise.
The Māori Party are growing the voter pie.
Seymour is one of the smartest, most strategic, most considered political player in the game right now.
He is aiming for double digits in 2026 and overtaking National in 2029.
Promoting Trexit for the next 6months starts the march towards double digits.
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So no problem putting it to a referendum then.
Why bother if it’s not something that needs fixing?
Plenty of important things that need doing.
Luxon is so fucken dumb he will allow this shit to carry on and destroy society just to cover his own incompetence .Just look at the claytons ferry disaster anouncement about nothing not even a canoe ,where was the bald prick ?.Probably giving David another blow job under the desk .
If National lose, Act lose. The Left wins. I am all for Act and the wild eyed Seymour’s defenestration of National. A pox on them all.
“Seymour is one of the smartest, most strategic, most considered political player in the game right now.”
I don’t agree with this at all. Seymour is not acting in unison, he is just a sociopathic actor performing for his puppet master, the Atlas Network. Debbie Gibbs has far more to do with strategy than Seymour, who has never really achieved anything useful in life other than putting together a kitset car.
Same as Key. He was nothing without Crosby Textor and his dirty politics team of Slater, Judith and Ede.
Interesting.
If you read the don’t know as do not care then you have a majority of people that agree the treaty has little to do with them .
Thosecthat see this as a death threat to the Coalition are wrong if the economy picks up they will get returned with or without the bill.
so they’re relying on dumb luck then? finally some sense
‘Māori tribes make rare plea to King Charles for intervention in New Zealand politics.’
God! If only King Charles was like his dad!
‘Right this Seymour! Nasty little Oik! Been told lots of times stop causing unnecessary trouble and wasting time and money. Won’t listen, just bangs on about ‘equality’ and ‘treating everyone the same.’
Now see here silly Seemore! When one group of people are always poorer than the other, when more of them suffer from unemployment, imprisonment and poor housing it is quite clear that they are NOT being treated the same.
When one group of people are hungry and homeless and another crowd have multiple houses and take so many overseas holidays they do not know if they are in Te Puke or Hawaii then it is obvious they are NOT equal( prefer Te Puke meself – fewer noveau rich smarmers).
So how are you going to make that better by buggering about with a basic constitutional agreement?’
Well you fucking well do not! Instead you actually address the issues of funding houses, supporting employment, looking at alternatives to imprisonment( and I do not mean bloody Boot Camps. People who need a boot are all in parliament).
I suggest if people have money to waste on Damned silly sailing boats that look like something out of science fiction they can be taxed to the hilt.
Of course now that I am safely dead I can say all this without having to answer awkward questions about my own tax status. Anyway, off for a spin in the Bentley with the missus( here they let me race around as fast as I jolly well like.)
39% don’t know enough about the TPB? What does that tell us about the media coverage. Ok, granted, its divisive and not easy to grasp when both sides of the debate claim the high ground. Added to this the revised principles are written in legalese that a good many folk would struggle with. And I’ve seen very little that clarifies this. And what indeed are the ‘principles’ of the ToW anyway? The ones those that work in public spaces know about (and other well informed folk)? You know, the 3 Ps. Partnership, participation and protection. Guiding principles you might say. Not the dense legalese of the TPB. And what’s the relationship between the three principles of the TPB and the guiding 3 Ps of the ToW? Is it these the TPB seeks to undermine?
So perhaps folk are a bit confused. Maybe they’re just not saying. Maybe indicative of a lack of civic engagement. A shame because it’s a defining moment in the history of Aotearoa NZ.
pretty much – the courts worked this out in the 70’s – yet here we are – confused. it’s a blight on our mana as a civilised country, that this sort of obfuscation and malignment is allowed to happen. Then again bottle stores are being forced to close at 9pm and Density Church can bully their way around the country with impunity. NZ has some real defining to do all right and I’m not liking our chances. puritans are poisoning us with their nonsense… again.
Interesting.