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  1. Believe trickle down floats all boats, if you like, but you have to accept all it does is drown the poor who can’t afford the ticket of life jackets.

  2. That “agriculture” doesn’t pollute evenly though does it Mr Watts. Also why is it an issue excuse to pull out the backbone bollocks. Taxing omissions doesn’t end farming FFS. This government is a f’ing joke.

  3. If we are feeding 40 million people world wide where is the evidence of those meals being shipped out of NZ .That is a crock of shit .We export bulk milk powder cheese ,butter and meat along with a few logs .All sold at the lowest value posable because they are sold as commodity not finished value added meals .Agriculture does not make up 80% of the value of GDP .iT WAS 60% BACK IN THE 1960S BUT IS NOW LESS THAN 20% .If ag is 80% of our product exported then clearly the value has plumeted per kg .I get sick of hearing how farming is the back bone of NZ WHILE THE LAST 50 YEARS HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC DECLINE in the real $ value .Flying in tourists is nearly earning as much and may well take over from farming in the next decade .

    1. Good Go.rdon what great facts – light them up in neon! Ag only 20% of GDP value. A large part of our output is services, ie financial, isn’t it? The goblins come in the night and bleed us like old-time medics. How long can this go on? How long can we still function and be active?

  4. Good points made by Bryan. Food Banks funding being cut, school lunches being reduced to $3 sandwiches and then gone altogether if Act get their way. Obesity on the rise because many people can only afford to eat cheap crap food.

    Food Banks should not be necessary in this land of plenty at all. Food for 40 mill?–joke–and anyway how about feeding everyone of our 5 million first…the obvious problem here is capital and neo liberalism. Thousands are in debt to MSD/WINZ because they had to get grants for food and basic living costs.

  5. Keeping agriculture out of the Emissions Trading Scheme puts the financial burden on the rest of us.

    Countries pay for not meeting their climate commitments. Essentially paying other countries to account for the excess pollution. Therefore, climate harm is being offset.

    It is estimated New Zealand could face a bill of $24 billion in the years leading up to 2030.

    It’s the cost that will be our problem. While mitigating exacerbating inequality.

  6. Well said Brian. Add to that Potakas statement that saving endangered species is too expensive.
    This government doesn’t care about the people of this country it is more interested in selfish policy that only benefits the privileged and those like Ada and Trevor who would like to be in that group.

  7. What Simon? That same old line –
    i>“It actually supports farmers…Agriculture is the backbone of the New Zealand economy, it contributes 81 percent of goods exported and New Zealand-grown produce feeds over 40 million people worldwide.”… Oh blah. Set to music in 1919. ‘How Ya Gonna Keep Them Down on the Farm’… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgqVCJpRqWQ

    At least let us hear some new material, or were you the only one still standing after one of the sessions with the aggrocultural types? The new big farmers like to live in Paris or some attractive urban environment and never stand in a cowpat, just run the thing by internet.

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