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  1. If we want nice things like pharmaceuticals, MRI machines and welfare, they have to be paid for. Shane has a plan to do just that. What’s yours?

    1. The flaw with your guess Andrew is that firstly NONE of the elements Jones is backing make the products you state.

      Coal, gas , oil, gold , antimony are NOT needed for MRI machines nor so called green energy for the planet to survive. Eg. Gold is still predominantly an obsession globally, for bejeweled decorations. It has no real value in solutions to save the world. All processes with deadly antimony are replaceable.

      You perpetuate the falsehood still by  repeating baselessly these false claims.

      For NZ and Jones , overseas private companies will make profits at the expense of leaving wastelands  of toxins for centuries, drive water scarcity – oh shit.. for farming… and emit shitloads of CO2 for mere miserly royalties of just 1% and 2%. The long term destruction outweighs today’s greedy, but miserly benefit.

      Secondly, the drive for mining elements globally is not at this point about green energy for the good of all mankind by the major players. The BS# spin !

      It’s drive, ITS GREED, is more akin to stockpiling elements to hold the world to ransom ( eg. In December 2023, Beijing banned the export of technology for making rare earth magnets.)

      EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT is that the mining industry underpins trillions of dollars of weaponry for the Super Powers’ wars of domination, ie. NACTZis are talking bullshit, it’s not for green energy nor for altruism !

      Without , for example the top mineable elements ( NZ DOESN’T HAVE ) of gallium, germanium and good old graphite from China, the US military would grind to a halt.  Israel and Ukraine…. ?

      China has the stranglehold on more than 85% of these commodities in its mineral resources, that it’s stockpiling and then dominates the processing industries to refine them. ( Nearly all materials — no matter where in the world they are mined — travel to China for refinement before they can be used in technologies.)

      The US military is facing critical mineral shortage for advanced weaponry so the likes of the US throwing billions into the development of the likes of Mountain Pass is no surprise.

      In the scale of this global picture Jone’s is pissing in the wind, selling BS# and a lemon, all for EGO and power.

      You Andrew along with Jonzie et al. have even unwittingly, joined the chorus that votes for short term gains and long term extinction.

      You might as well resurrect the industries of blacksmiths for horse shoes and roof thatching. They’ll be alot more useful in the years ahead.

  2. SO IF YOU BELEIVE THAT A 1 BILLION INCREASE IN EXPORTS OF COAL IS GOING TO SAVE nz AND THE WEST COAST DREAM ON .How much will house prices and rents rise ?Where will people live when westport floods .How will the coal be shipped out of NZ and lastly remember when coal corp tried this a few years ago they went down the shitter big time .We have been there and done that many times and failed .

  3. Shane Jones is a bombastic person who I find hard to like but he is speaking the truth when he says we need mining to go ahead if we want to continue to be a 1st world country. The environment is important as it draws in tourists but it is a market that is not a great wage earner like mining.

    1. The African continent is blessed with all sorts of minerals. Using your logic, the country formerly known as Zaire would have it’s streets paved with gold. Same with most other African nations.

    2. Tourisms worth about 30 billion to nz. Mining is currently 1 billion and estimated to peak at 2 billion if the fast track bill goes through. You can’t have your cake and eat it…

  4. Why & how does the Labour party in Australia get away with doing so much Mining.

    1. Remember the Muldoon comment about NZ people moving to Australia raising the average IQ of both countries might go some way to explaining it.
      It is more likely to be the massive size of their mining industry that gives them a boost like the farming industry here.

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