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  1. Looks like the dry dock at Whangarei will be fast tracked and funded by US NAVY for their SUBS .Note winstone is pushing it after his latest jabber jawing with US officials .

  2. Ben doesn’t mention the most important event of the week, probably the year. Biden went to China to make unrealistic demands of the Chinese. The former economic superpower versus the current economic superpower. Threaten US no more said the Chinese. In an economic war there will be one loser, the US dollar. China has just observed the US approve the seizure of Russian assets, all trust is gone. Economic war is escalated.

  3. The subs Aussie bought are nuclear powered. That contravenes our nuclear free legislation and stance. Major stumbling block.

    1. The Ardern regime rats already allowed US military vessels into our waters without public guarantees that they were not nuclear armed. Not to mention the US military base in Chch, not to mention the US spy stations that feed intel to the Mossad in Waihopai and Tangimoana.

  4. “…..the planned nuclear powered submarine fleet will provide a deterrent…..” Ben Morgan

    Both the US and China have nuclear weapons. All my life gung ho militarists like Ben Morgan have telling us that nuclear weapons are necessary as a deterrent to prevent the major nuclear armed powers from going to war with each other. All of a sudden they’re not? We need even more deterrent?
    What a load of rubbish.
    Ben gets closer to the truth here;

    “The largest budget line is for the development of the capacity to support submarines operating in the region. It reinforces US naval planning for a future conflict….” Ben Morgan

    Yep you read it right. The US is planning for a ‘future conflict’.
    The Americans are planning for a future conflict.
    The Chinese are planning for a future conflict.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/04/china-war-military-taiwan-us-asia-xi-escalation-crisis/#

    A future conflict is coming.
    The world is only one global economic recession away, one set of economy destroying sanctions, one vicious trade war that descends into a shooting war.
    The war in Ukraine, the war in Gaza show us the way that next world war will be fought. Civilian lives and civilian infrastructure will be the front line.
    The First World War, the First major global conflict between between rival Super Powers, cost an estimated 18 million lives. the Second major conflict between rival Super Powers killed more than three times that many. The Third major conflict between rival Super Powers could cost anywhere from 150 million to 200 million lives cut short. And that is without descending into a nuclear exchange. New Zealand’s best interest would be served in having nothing to do with it. Cut all military and intelligence ties with any of the beligerent powers. Send emisseries to the UN to Beijing to Washington to get international recognition of New Zealand as a neutral country like Switzerland.

    Ben Morgan accuses people like me who want an independent Foreign policy, of conducting a disinformation campaign.

    “….the nation should be prepared for diplomatic lobbying and possibly disinformation campaigns aimed at influencing public opinion against any move to join AUKUS,” Ben Morgan

    Speaking of disinformation.

    “…. the following objectives for the Australian Defence Force (ADF):
    …..Contribute with our partners to the maintenance of the global rules-based order”
    Ben Morgan

    ADF still honour war criminal – refuse to prosecute.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/murderer-and-war-criminal-but-not-convicted-will-ben-roberts-smith-lose-his-vc/4hqmupmfz

    “Essentially, the countries that support the international rules-based order like the US, NATO, Australia, Japan, South Korea etc are starting to acknowledge that competition between states or power blocks is no longer defined by clear rules.” Ben Morgan.

    Despite the fact that these nations in the US ‘bloc’ have only pay lip service to orders of the World Court or Security Council resolutions, choosing instead to put more faith in the naked use of force, in Vietnam, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Gaza, we should all be chilled that they now admit that there are no rules.

  5. Is deterrence a thing?

    Ben Morgan has argued over many posts that we need to have a military build up to deter a war in the Pacific. And that New Zealand should join in.

    As each side becomes armed to the teeth with huge standing armies, with armadas of warships, fleets of war planes, and arrays of missiles primed to hit their predesignated targets, war does not become less likely it becomes more likely.

    But pointing out the obvious makes me guilty of spreading misinformation according to Ben Morgan’s militaristic world view.

    How did the war start?

    Blackadder

    @1:40 Minutes
    “….it was just too much effort not to have a war”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGxAYeeyoIc

  6. NATO Ben advocating for closer ties to extreme kleptocrat Bongbong Marcos? Of course….

    1. “USA,USA, USA”

      Biden

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1SxERY7_jo

      Imperialism is an economic system. Biden hints at trade war with China. –
      As China’s export led economy is throttled, causing massive economic dislocation and unemployment in China, trade war will turn into shooting war, a shooting war which Ben wants us to join, even if it wrecks our trading economy with China as well, and sees New Zealanders dying overseas in another imperialist venture with no benefit to this country.

      China–United States trade war
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_trade_war

      A Trade War With China Could Lead to Shooting
      The Wall Street Journal
      https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-u-s-china-rivalry-risks-lethal-confrontation-1484644399

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