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  1. I think the door was already open and overflowing in Wellington of fringe extremists, aka woke.

  2. I don’t think their popularity issues have anything to do with an aging base. Since the emergence of Trump, the average age of the populist conservative base actually seems to be falling.

    The problem for N.Z.F. is economics and foreign policy. The days when populist conservatives could be hoodwinked by globalist, pro-war candidates that only openly talk about the ‘Culture Wars’ have been over since 2016. Those Liz Cheney types were eviscerated, because Trump brought back Hamiltonian mercantilism and a non-interventionist foreign policy — something which was always popular with BOTH rural and urban working people, and small traders (including a large bloc of ex-Obama voters).

    I don’t know exactly who has joined Hobson’s Pledge, but on paper their policies are to essentially throw out the black nationalists from the government departments, and return to the colour-blind society. This has broad appeal, and at face value is actually AGAINST white supremacism! (A proper anti-Tribunal argument could easily be constructed in such a way.)

    The ‘anti-vax’ groups are a rabble full of grifters and oddballs, but general criticism of government overreach during the pandemic has some popularity.

    1. Trump stacked his cabinet with rich pricks, and slashed government services while cutting taxes for the rich. He also tried to crack down on unions, and he tried to start wars in the middle east. He even employed hard core neo-cons in his policy team.

      Also, the likes of Rumsfeld and Rice endorsed him.

  3. If Winnie Mops up all the ‘wasted Vote’ from the ‘not listened too’ voters and get s over 5% this way, then it’s democracy working well.

    1. Yes Marco exactly. NZ is a free country, if it gives a home to the marginalised well good on them. They have views too so why should their views be wasted?

      So what if Winnie is a grifter, at least he is experienced. Where are all the sterling politicians in Labour and the Nats? Honest Chippie, Dumbo Kelvin, Racist Marama – need I go on?

      Time to challenge the hegemony that is Labour and Nats Neo LIberal stronghold on power. They will not surrender it willingly so it is only through the smaller parties that any change will be made. So anti vaxxers and Casey Costello – bring it on! Time for the ‘Rivers of Filth’ to put their oar in!

      1. A brown woman who calls out the constant abuse from white supramacest KKK members like you gets called ‘racist’.

        You need to to go somewhere like the US south, there you dont have to worry about those uppity blacks having rights.

  4. For the first time Winston has said who he will go with if he is given the chance . I would now like to see Luxon say him and his party are not partners he would be happy with but I do not think it will happen so I just have to hope voters see through the bluster and give their vote direct to National,or Act.

  5. Come on Trevor, who was the perfect Hand Brake for Jacinda s Govt and probably explain s why Labour have been such a mess since NZ First we’re voted out.
    Unfortunately All MMP Government s it seems need a hand brake to function. It’s either NZ First or TOP .

  6. This won’t please Social Credit, who already target the support of quite a few of those magical thinker types.

  7. Not giving Winston any votes,if he hangs out with anti-vaxxers, hes their man,NOT mine

  8. I’m never voting for Winston’s shitty little party again, now that he is indulging racists, homophobes and antivax QAnon filth.

    1. Spoken like a true ‘holier than thou’ progressive who would deny others their democratic rights on the basis he knows better.

      I very much doubt you ever voted NZF and probably have never voted in NZ at all.

      We all know you are probably working out of a bot farm, Millsy or drawing a wage from Labour? via the WEF?

      1. Hey, “Fantail” or whoever the fuck you are. You are the one who wants to ban being LGBT, abortion and birth control, and impose a Christian theocracy. So dont carry on about ;’democratic rights’.

        1. Funnily enough Millsy, I have never even thought about banning abortion, lgbt and birth control. Or of establishing a Christian theocracy. Just like most on here, I simply believe in equal suffrage where everybody gets to have their say and not just people I agree with.

          In the old days, it was considered the essence of being a Kiwi – live and let live. Democracy beats tribal party politics every time.

  9. What happened to the original and innovative concept of restorative justice in NZ?

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