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  1. Rod oram the farmer hater hates on farmers again.
    Remember the Paris Climate Accord when it stated emissions reductions shouldn’t come at the expense of reducing food output?
    Rod Oram, Labour and the Greens didn’t. They want to destroy the economy for virtue signals.
    The rest of the world doesn’t smash their farmers for emissions, but yeah let’s destroy our pasture based lower emissions farming so food can be produced less sustainably overseas.
    Nitrates are an issue, carbon emissions are a political scam.

  2. Rebuilding the (now non-existent) left must include rebuilding the ‘Worker-Farmer Alliance’. Protections for small farmers, such as the guaranteed gate price via the single marketing desk, must be restored. Any attempts to ruin small farmers with taxes and levies must be opposed, and the state should assist with labour shortages (replace cheap foreign labour with unionised local workers).

    Any new infrastructure (e.g. mass irrigation, protection of waterways etc.) should be fully funded by the state, and built by the Public Works Department. Any planned air pollution regulations must only be implemented once G.H.G. emissions are cut by 50% in the U.S./E.U./B.R.I.C.S./Japan.

    1. The US military emits far more GHG than NZ farmers do, and all they ‘produce’ is rape and murder. We can start hitting our farmers when the US military is completely eliminated.

  3. If Lake Taupo blows none of this will matter as most of the cows will be dead.

  4. You have free speech. I do my best to protect it. Now we must decide right from wrong.

    1. Agreed. I think choosing between right and wrong will be made clearer through free speech.

  5. Farmers do pay, happy to show you my accounts if anyone wants!! IRD collect extra tax from farmers on growing (yes, burping farting) livestock. It’s called Livestock Tax, the tax calculated is based upon using “National Standard Cost” or “Herd scheme” (Aka “National Average Market Value”). Look it up! This tax is ON TOP of income tax and is effectively a capital gains tax as livestock grow. It’s a huge cost annually, the public don’t understand it exists and it’s in need of reform. The government Tax Working group tasked with reforming it admitted that they do not have the expertise to even review it! All this information is readily available online.

    1. What is a fair comparison between farmers increasing charges and increasing rates on cities and suburbs? I think they’re equally dependent on each other. How would you as a farmer find it fair?

  6. It is a ploy of the left to make as many people as possible benefituries of the State so they have control.
    Subsidise in Europe lead to huge waste with mountain of unsold produce .We do not want to go down that track again with the government choosing winners

  7. What are the emissions of the extra 100 000 new immigrants? And those of the minion or so extra new kiwis in the last 20 years?
    Do we have to sacrifice more cows so the cities can get bigger?
    Sounds real clever.

  8. Vat produced food is upon us.

    It’s over for dairy.

    So I’m guessing all the economic purity that act spews will go out the window when the farmers start screaming blue bloody murder.

  9. I don’t see the problem. If the land was still without humans the south island grasslands would still be home to flocks of belching, farting, urinating, greenhouse-gassing Moas. Cows are sacred they do the Balance Of Payments.

  10. I’m still trying to understand the way this site operates. How does one pass the qualifications necessary to be trusted in posting? Is posting random, depending on the time of posting and whether someone is tending the site?

  11. “The reality we face now is catastrophic weather event after catastrophic. weather event that makes repair time between disasters impossible.”

    Do we really know the consequences of global warming weather for NZ? The last year which has seen massive extra rainfall which people anecdotally attribute to global warming was the best year for grass growth on record. So does global warming create a food production problem here or just an insurance problem?

  12. The funny thing about this issue – it’s not very obvious what to do. We either choose to be poorer and reduce stocking levels which really just amounts to a wealth transfer to another country that doesn’t give a shit OR we continue as is until some technology comes along that allows us to have our cake and eat it.

    To be honest as a country I think we need to play it smart. Do enough to avoid any climate tariffs but don’t do any more than that. Rather use the time to focus on adapting to the future hellscape that awaits us.

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