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  1. You will have excited all 17 readers of their blog Chris.

    I’ve always found how wrong Tom is about me, you and TDB robs anything else he has to say of any legitimacy, I mean if I’m a rich capitalist running plays for big capitalism then every Green Party voter is secretly working for the oil companies.

    It’s real People’s Front of Judea over there.

  2. ”every Green Party voter is secretly working for the oil companies.”
    FOR FS SHUT UP! Nobody is supposed to know that!

  3. The irony is that all these sites that worship China would be banned in China. The latest ‘influencer’ arrested is some poor country girl, that actually seems to be promoting Chinese interests of peace. I guess some official enjoyed their power play and shake down of her small business. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/chinese-youtuber-li-ziqi-what-happened-to-the-famous-star/QY45Z4TST7OZCMTMGGARUORMGI/

    World Socialist Web Site (WSWS) – better hope that China doesn’t succeed in their brand of socialism, because they would probably find themselves arrested and detained for 20 years hard labour, for having an opinion!

    1. To grow the cult of Xi Jinping, and the community good, there can be no other personality cult in the land.

  4. WSWS are the conspiracy theorists of fake Trotskyists.
    Everyone is against them, including Trotsky.
    Because if you consider what Trotsky would make of the WSWS he would not be amused.
    For one thing, Trotsky followed Marx and Lenin closely to keep himself in on course. Take the issue of China.
    China today meets the criteria of all three that it is not socialist, let alone Communist, but capitalist and imperialist.
    Just as Soviet Russia never succeeded in building socialism, nor did China. And for Marx, who everyone should know saw socialism as the first stage of Communism, you can’t skip that stage.
    My posts on TDB point this out, and, that one must criticise China in the same way we criticise the US as IMPERIALIST.
    Those who still adhere to the living Marxism of Lenin and Trotsky today try to use dialectics, not dogma, to assess the actual objective state of the world.
    Failing that, no program which expresses the revolutionary consciousness of the working class, can hope to change that objective situation and end capitalism and build socialism.
    Another example of disorienting dogmatism from the WSWS, and shared by other ostensible leftists, is that Aoteoroa/NZ is IMPERIALIST!
    Avoiding a boring breakdown, NZs banks are owned by Aussie banks, which are also owned by US banks! Even our cross cousin Aussie is not IMPERIALIST.
    Such an irony when China is regarded as still socialist while the tiny neo-colony of A/NZ and its big brother Aussie are both imperialists!?!
    Such fundamental mistakes arising from sectarian dogmatism strip the working class of any revolutionary independence gained from bourgeois ideology by living Marxism.
    It traps them in a fatalistic impotence in the face of the fascist tsunamis generated by the shocks of End Stage Capitalism and climate collapse.
    https://situationsvacant.blog/2021/09/23/aukus-on-the-warpath-against-china-no-to-imperialist-wars-for-world-socialism/

  5. Well, the way the NZ Police and State Security forces pursued Martyn Bradbury in that Court case–yes for once “Kafkaesque” was fitting terminology–should put to rest any doubts about him being an imperialist “asset”.

    Further, while easy to lampoon and call to account a Trotskyite mad dog blog, sectarianism is no joke, though Chris does say there is some worthy analysis on WSWS, ultimately blighted by attacks on others.

    In NZ in the 70s and early 80s there was a strong Marxist contingent made up of small parties, groups, and individuals. Communists in New Zealand played a prominent role in so many campaigns and social movements and union actions over many years. From the formation of the New Zealand Communist Party in the 30s, through to the advent of the Cold War and Sino Soviet split, and scores of other splits locally, sectarianism and a skewed emphasis on local/international was the commos usual downfall. That and the obvious penetration of the marxist left by various snitches and state informants.

    I maintain the several hundred skilled in marxist theory, and the several thousands of casual supporters could have made a big difference in NZ Labour history if the NZCP, SAL, WCL, SUIP, MLO and all the rest had spent less time slicing into each other, supporting Albania, China, USSR, and more time fighting Rogernomics, retaining the FOL, and other local battles.

    The fear of the marxists by the establishment and deep state was there nonetheless of their goal of revolutionary change via a change in class power. Prime Minister Rob Muldoon’s “gang of 32” expose of SUP (NZ Socialist Unity Party) members and associates operating in Trade Unions (including one Rob Campbell recently appointed by Andrew Little as Chair of the new Health New Zealand) was a good illustration of the paranoia.

    In the digital era things are different, from the 90s the rot set in, the WCL morphed in Red Currents which just stopped meeting, the SUP was wound up and remaining funds donated via Ken Douglas to NZ Labour! and the traditional “Papers, phamplets, pickets and meetings” small marxist sects have all but vanished now except as intermittent online entities–though strangely the sectarianism is still there!

  6. There is money in that T-shirt idea. I can smell it. Go for it someone. Limited edition Tshirts spouting TDB propaganda such as the delightful – Genuine Pseudo-Leftist. A limited run and they would sell at $50 each. Cheap. After all with lockdown what else to spend one’s discretionary money on.

    Also – a bit naughty – Tshirts with a 2021 photo of Chris Trotter on it and caption ‘ Who is this Man?’ Again limited edition.

    1. I’m a bit keen on a tee shirt design based on Countryboy ‘s 9 day vaccine side effect!
      That would be a winner!

    2. “Robo-Trotter”…

      The left gets enough crap already imo Greywarbler without needing ironic t-shirts to be misconstrued by someone out there.

    3. The T-shirts would be a good plan if only the woke understood humour or irony.

      But they if they could, the would cancel laughter.

  7. Is “pseudo-leftist” a synonym for “chardonnay socialist”? If so, Tom might have a valid point. Unfortunately he goes on to misrepresent millions of dollars of foreign aid to Pacific island nations as “imperialism” when it is nothing of the kind as their sovereignty is still in place.

    1. It would be, except that havin cha herd? Chardonnay is so yestaday and we’ve progressed to a new palette where the brands are furiously competing for honours in sufustikayshun and pop ya Larry Tee.
      Across the motu, modellers, media analysts and politicians alike are waiting while pollsters are analysing the data to determine which of the alternatives to Chardonnay might become the new force, although they’re arguing over which metrics to use as legitimate measurement.
      Meanwhile ….. on planet Erf

    2. Of course, Leftists don’t drink wine. In NZ it’s strictly beer. Vodka chasers are allowed as well.

  8. It is nice having people critiquing each other though. It’s good to have someone else on the left call out Martyn’s position on China. Martyn’s strength is New Zealand politics. He just doesn’t seem that well informed on Chinese or American politics. I go to other sources for that. But I definitely put Martyn first when it comes to New Zealand politics.

    Same goes for American leftwing and ocassionally right wing youtubers. They criticise each other but I like to watch all of their videos. That way I see the weaknesses in some of the positions everyone inevitably has.

  9. Personally I don’t find Left and Right labels particularly helpful though I am guilty of using them myself (when I think my audience will understand). These terms are so used and abused. It’s more constructive to get down to brass tacks. Talk about what is wrong and how to fix it based on principles of equality. Of course that necessitates that equality is a goal most of us aspire to. I don’t believe it is (most present company excepted) which is why we have a problem.

    1. Pragman
      Even the meaning of equality has to be established in discussion before meaningful probing talk about problems and solutions can be had. I think this of Chris Trotter’s was on TDB as well – https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2021/09/equality-equity-great-race-of-life.html

      I have been reading Cynthia Voigt’s Young Adult books. She has a series on the Tillerman family , finding their way through life. The oldest ponders ;
      It was all so risky because there were no guarantees….Even if you studied, and planned, and worked, even if you did the best you could you could still lose out…Then [it was] understood – it wasn’t guarantees needed… but chances, chances to take… And the eye to recognise it…The hand, to reach out and hold onto it – that, too. And the heart, or the stomach, or wherever courage comes from…

      I think that is so well put. And equality should provide a platform for everyone to get their chance, even more than one. and gather together their skills and talents to do their best and make something good. Some equity will be needed, a helping hand, a few tutorials, a group session where someone who has succeeded passes on experience and tips; goal-setting with achievable steps, hope for a viable future too.

      1. Agree. And I took Chris’ point in that article which is why I referred to equality as opposed to equity.

  10. Late to the party was Tom Peters and the SEP over the Pike River recovery effort. The sealing of the mine is just about completed. There articles occassionally pop up on the Backball facebook page

  11. Late to the party was Tom Peters and the SEP over the Pike River recovery effort. The sealing of the mine is just about completed. There articles occassionally pop up on the Backball facebook page

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