So China lied about the virus and bought up all the protective clothing – can we criticise them yet or is that still xenophobic? 

ByMartyn Bradbury

When the first news of the Wuhan virus started circulating, an odd thing happened. Woke activists online in NZ felt any criticism of the virus was in fact racist and xenophobic.

Nigel Latte summed up the identity politics position in this now infamous tweet…

…this immediate position that criticism of the virus was racist was of course an absurdity. This issue was always a public health calamity and economic threat, it wasn’t a chance to virtue signal ones desire to tell everyone else they are racist.

New information last week that China was actually lying about the true extent of the pandemic, had secretly bought up all the global safety equipment while telling us it was ok and grossly under reported the deaths should start some serious questions about our ongoing relationship with China, but because many woke have globally transferrable skills, they see any criticism or restriction on migrants as an existential threat to their own economic freedoms and valuation.

When the National Party has become little more than a front for Chinese Business interests with an alleged spy inside their caucus and Jenny Shipley, Don Brash, Ruth Richardson and Chris Tremain Director’s of the China Construction Bank, Judith Collins interaction with Chinese Officials to help her husbands Chinese Company, Oravida, to gain more Chinese money  andMaurice Williamson’s love affair with  Donghua Liu seeing him become Liu’s personal handyman when doing up Liu’s batch and heavying the Police to drop domestic violence charges it is more than fair to start demanding far more scrutiny and public debate towards China’s power over our economy and political system, especially when the academic who is highlighting this influence is being intimidated and having her house broken into by Chinese agents, and there is a current SFO investigation into political donations to the National Party after a wealthy Chinese Businessman asked how much to buy 2 Chinese candidates on the National Party list.

The revelations that China lied, lied and lied again about this virus should at least embarrass the woke to stay silent. While that embarrassment is in place, perhaps we can have a discussion about Chinese Government influence over our politics, economy and future.

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59 Comments

  1. Well said Martyn. The Chinese Government are both bullies and habitual liars. If they had come clean on this earlier many lives and trillions of dollars in losses could quite probably have been avoided.

  2. Chinas influence over NZ politics and society ,,,, could probably be described as their corruption meets ours.

    Using the tax havens of Hong Kong and Singapore ,,, we accept their worst and their money.

    If we want to fight corruption in China ,,,, the easiest way to do this would be to Burn the tax haven habitat ,,, that John Key fully set us up as.

    And heres a good thing about burning tax havens ,,,, unlike most things their combustion would drastically lower CO2 levels ,,,,,

    Anyway ,,,, our corruption meets theirs … “First, note that the posting of Nicky Hager’s address details isn’t just a revenge fantasy; it’s an actual attempt at revenge, with Hager’s “full details” provided to Odgers’ clients, who, she hopes, are appropriately “vicious”. Happily, her Chinese clients do not appear to be as morally defective as Ms Odgers, and, in fact (so far anyway), there has been no “Chop chop for Nicky”.
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/08/new-zealand-prime-minister-john-key-the-whale-oil-blog-and-international-organized-crime.html

    1. Our own corruption runs deeper than petty political whims. Our own capitalists entrepreneurs were and are still searching for ways to cut out paying for average kiwi wages.

      Our FTA with China agrees to giving up 50% of our own businesses and capital and kiwi entrepreneurs let alone politicians was keen to let this happen because cheap Chinese labour was so much better.

      For fucks sake we forget how much of ourselves has truly been exposed by corona and it isn’t even the hallway the deadliest thing.

      1. +1 Sam – NZ governments stupidity/determination to reduce NZ wages even if it means giving up 50% of the Kiwi companies to China… crazy,

        Government is still brainwashed into thinking how great the China deals are after Sanlu https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/3715/contaminated-milk-scandal-hurting-fonterra and Beingmate https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12256358…. It’s like brainwashed eco chambers all around Wellington and NZ officials.

        Face it, Fonterra will never have the same culture (hopefully) as the corruption and killer milk of Chinese dairy but they seem determined not to learn any lessons from their joint venture disasters in China in every way, from massive shareholder losses putting the farmers of NZ in jeopardy, to the deaths of innocent Chinese babies with 43% Fonterra’s name on it, to loss of Fonterra/milk brand, to job losses in NZ when Fonterra loses yet more money on another failed China strategy.

        Meanwhile the CEO averages 5 million a year to push Fonterra into the gutter no doubt getting huge performance pay for getting into China with the success of that not measure very well!

        Fonterra could have spent the money they lost on Beingmate on innovation to reduce the pollution of the Dairy industry in NZ and developing value added products, but nope that is not the neoliberal way to spend money on real assets!

        That aint the only large NZ company that Chinese interests have been a disaster. Mainzeal also went down in a construction boom with our slavishly devoted politician Jenny Shipley helping hand them the cheque that led to the companies demise.

        Mainzeal’s Yan says NZ laws don’t apply in China, won’t pay back $18m
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12271022

        Wait till the apartments come tumbling down. NZ ratepayers have already paid out a fortune to remediate the shoddy apartments of NZ in the last 20 years. Still making them fail. Now apparently there are concrete, steel and fire issues! Clearly no lessons being learnt.

        Council still seeking information on flawed concrete walls of Auckland apartment block
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/117886464/council-still-seeking-information-on-flawed-concrete-walls-of-auckland-apartment-block

        Well I guess you can buy an MP seat for $100k with the Natz. Remember 2 Chinese are more valuable than 2 Indians!

        1. I just get so upset when I’m constantly harassed for being edgy about things like maybe China and America isn’t trust worthy and we should adopt a pre war stance with sustained military operations in long ranged counter terrorism boarder security with big guns of our own instead of all out war. And then I find those denouncing me sheepishly coming around to the bandwagon with a sore arse.

  3. Just in time delivery is a trap that health authorities should never fall into.

    Stocks of what may be needed should be procured well in advance and stored within the premises of the health agency that may use them. Expecting importers to hold your stock is very negligent if not incompetent putting patients and staff at unnecessary risk in this case.
    Australia can make its own equipment in any case so why not. Don’t tell me its cheaper in China and then moan about what took place blaming others.

  4. There were 60 confirmed cases in Wuhan on 20 Dec. The city was put in full lockdown on 23 Jan. That is actually fairly swift public health/political action.

    1. “China uncensored” is a western propaganda venture.
      What cover up. There was very swift action by China once virologists identified the virus.

  6. There was I thinking the Nigel Latta message had been lost . Still the more it is published the more it makes sense as the blame came seems to be one of the few events still happening.
    . The hate that is channeled to those that are brave enough to out themselves as carriers is terrible and should be dealt with by the full force of the law. The same can be said of those using this platform to promote division amongst the classes we need to not be a nation of knockers but applaud those who see a way out of this mess

  7. “EVIL CHINESE CONTAMINATE WORLD” obviously irrefutable, direct from us intelligence agencys. Does anybody else find the title intelligence agency a misnomer?

    1. Well the may be comparatively intelligent when compared with those who believe them

  8. You have really ” jumped the shark” when you start using press releases from the US intelligence agencies to justify your anti China stance Martyn. I seem to have seen the line “XI lied , lied and then lied again” on several different sites.These are the same agencies that helped construct the Russiagate myth using the fake Steel dossier to justify spying on the Trump presidential campaign.
    Even the Obama appointed Horowitz has come out critiscising the FBI for falsehoods and law breaking.
    https://theduran.com/horowitz-audit-finds-fbi-fisa-process-a-complete-mess-video/
    Even Trump has been conned into using the “Chinese Flu” or “The Wuhan flu” to propagandize against China.
    There is ample evidence that the virus was circulating in countries as diverse as Italy Hawaii and the USA before it ramped up horribly in Wuhan
    The real world out there sees the Chinese approach to the Covid19 outbreak a little differently
    https://ejmagnier.com/2020/04/02/after-the-explosion-a-preparation-to-return-to-normality-and-live-with-covid-19/
    Your criticism of China and the National Party may well be justified but just as the USA is not all bad so it goes with China
    At least they don’t have 800 Military bases around the world and about 400 Bio weapons labs spread around the place mostly in undeveloped countries

  9. The most important fight now is to stop the wildlife trade. I can’t believe how little discussion there is in the mainstream media on the origins of this virus…it’s like the discussion of meat eating and animal slaughter. Even in the face of clear evidence of its role in climate emissions it’s in the too hard so cast aside and forget it basket. If the world can’t face up to how we treat animals over this virus catastrophe then they never will, I’m afraid to say…Covid-19 is a direct result of human abuse of animals, and its killed thousands and almost destroyed entire economies, so why are we not discussing where it came from and confronting it? It’s just nonsensical and beggars belief.
    The entire world is now paying for this sycophantic relationship with a country that practices human rights abuses and shocking treatment of animals. Everybody is too busy making money out of China to actually call them out…We see the same toadyism with Saudi Arabia…the US and UK making billions in arms sales whilst tens of thousands of children die in Yemen. And China has been the main culprit in the near extinction of the African elephant, the rhino and tigers across the world, and the current decimation of donkeys across Africa for dodgy ‘health’ products made from their skin, plus the horrific bear bile industry, dog and cat meat trade, the so-called ‘wet markets’, open air slaughterhouses for all manner of hapless and near extinct wild creatures – all have been conveniently ignored by Western governments including ours. The world has ignored these horrors on the basis they are ‘cultural practices’, but also because it is hard to point the finger at animal abuse when every country in the world is as bad in different ways (cue factory farming of pigs and the caged egg industry). It has been far more important to just carry on business as usual and ignore the suffering of our fellow evolutionary partners.
    Look at the plight of the orangutan for example. These are our cousins, 98% similar in genetics, yet we still carry on business as usual with Indonesia and Malaysia who are perpetuating the genocide against these magnificent nonhuman animals. Why should it fall on the struggling, fringe environmental groups to try and educate the public about our tragic addiction to palm oil? Nothing is ever said at a trade or government level. Our silence is as bad as if we are taking chainsaws to the rainforest ourselves.
    And now look. The Chinese ‘wet markets’, and most likely the abuse of the innocent, vulnerable and almost extinct pangolin, have caused Covid-19 and the biggest destruction to Western economies since WW2. When this pandemic eventually passes, will the world wake up? I doubt it.
    The silence of the media on the real horrors that caused this virus is deafening.

    1. One more on the ban:

      Dr Peter Li, China policy specialist for animal protection charity Humane Society International, said in an emailed statement,

      “With Shenzhen taking the historic decision to become mainland China’s first city to ban dog and cat meat consumption, this really could be a watershed moment in efforts to end this brutal trade that kills an estimated 10 million dogs and 4 million cats in China every year.

      The majority of these companion animals are stolen from people’s back yards or snatched from the streets, and are spirited away on the backs of trucks to be beaten to death in slaughterhouses and restaurants across China. One Green Planet – Shenzhen Bans Dog and Cat Meat Trade

      1. They also breed them just for restaurant trade, not very different to NZ slaughtering million of animals a year for profit.
        We are far from squeeky clean and even allow buying in of palm kernel grown in plantations on land that had indigenous forest and wildlife like orangutans

    2. A heartily agreed that the devastation humans have wrought on other species across the planet is horrifying.
      Too many people and many eat animals and products from animal. Rank stupidity in the tree aspects.

      But the coronavirus did not originate in the Wuhan wet markets.

      1. Too many people and many eat animals

        Yep. When they talk about making AO/ NZ “predator free”, they need to be more honest as to who are the real predators.

  10. One city, Shenzhen, has now banned the consumption of dogs, cats and wild animals.

    The Chinese city of Shenzhen has passed a law that bans the sale and consumption of dog and cat meat—making it the first city in the country to do so.

    The ban will come into effect on May 1 as part of food safety legislation known as the “Shenzhen Special Economic Region Regulation on a Comprehensive Ban on the Consumption of Wild Animals.”

    Proposed in response to the outbreak of COVID-19, the legislation permanently bans the consumption, breeding and sale of wildlife—such as snakes, lizards and other wild animals—for human consumption in the city.

    The legislation also contains an article that the consumption of “pet animals—such as dogs and cats—is not allowed. Animals that are permitted to be eaten include pigs, cattle, sheep, donkeys, rabbits, chickens, ducks, geese, pigeons and quails, among others.

    The ban will apply to restaurants and shops in Shenzhen—located in southeastern China—as well as markets where live cats and dogs are sold. [Full article at the link]
    Newsweek Chinese City Bans Wildlife Meat

    BBC Shenzhen Bans Eating Cats and Dogs

    Eco Watch Shenzhen First City to Ban Eating Cats and Dogs

  14. Was just pondering that today DennyPaoa. Many of our country persons do suffer from delusions of grandeur. Our population equates to a city in many parts of the world, yet so many think that our opinions actually matter to the worlds movers and shakers?

  15. “China intentionally under-reporting COVID-19 cases, US intelligence concludes – report”

    LMFAO. How reliable is US intelligence? Iraq had WMDs? Epstein killed himself? Russia interfered in US elections?

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