What no one is pointing out about National’s latest attempt to distract you with tough on crime virtue signals is that thanks to Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith, it’s Vigilante Nation – GET YOUR BASH ON!
That’s right NZ, this Government are deregulating the State’s monopoly on violence and opening it to everyone as the new law empowers Cracker to start taking the law into their own hands and if they suspect a person of shop lifting, are legally allowed to physically restrain anyone that angry cracker thinks is a shoplifter.
You can immediately see the danger here.
Puffed up ZB Dad sees someone (poor brown people) he suspects of shoplifting, and thanks to Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith, it’s Vigilante Nation – GET YOUR BASH ON!
This is who we is now, this is what we have become.
Now.
I have zero time for the Supermarket Duopoly who have mass surveillance face recognition technology and the economic power to price gouge us, and I sure as Christ am not going to nark on some desperate person shoplifting if I see them, but equally, I’m not going to stand around and just let Cracker start manhandling poor people they suspect of shoplifting.
I need to be clear here Cracker, if I see you using a level of force that is beyond what I believe you should be allowed, I will immediately use violence against you to stop you using violence against them, because thanks to Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith, it’s Vigilante Nation now – GET YOUR BASH ON!
Every angry cracker and ZB Dad will be cruising the Supermarkets looking for poor brown folk to start physically assaulting, and we need to be ready to jump Cracker and ZB Dad when they lose their shit.
Once upon a time we had Police who were trained and empowered to physically touch others, but thanks to Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith, it’s Vigilante Nation now – GET YOUR BASH ON!
Even the regulatory impact statement acknowledges that giving bystanders vigilante powers will cause more violence…
Retail crime crackdown may not work and could make things worse, ministry says
The Ministry of Justice has raised red flags about the proposed changes to New Zealand’s Crimes Act 1961, aimed at giving retail workers and the public clearer legal rights to step in during thefts.
The National-coalition wants to let the public, not just police or security staff, use physical or mechanical restraints to make a citizen’s arrest for crimes such as shoplifting.
But a Ministry of Justice report, called a regulatory impact statement, has warned the changes may not work as intended and could even make things worse.
It said the analysis behind the proposal was rushed and lacked evidence. The Ministry relied heavily on a problem definition provided by a Ministerial Advisory Group, which was headed by a business advocate and community leader, Sunny Kaushal, without enough consultation with retailers or security experts. (Kaushal had political ambitions once – he unsuccessfully stood as the Labour candidate in Pakuranga in 2011, before switching to support National in 2017).
Officials couldn’t access reliable data on how often citizens’ arrests happen, and they weren’t able to weigh up the true costs or benefits of the proposal.
Crucially, the real reasons people hesitate to intervene in retail theft — like concerns about police not showing up, health and safety rules, or poorly trained security guards — aren’t actually addressed by changing the law. So the changes probably won’t lead to much of a shift in behavior, or in crime rates.
There are also major risks: allowing the use of restraints could lead to unlawful force, especially against young people or Māori, and may clash with human rights protections. Police worry that small incidents could spiral into violence, and that members of the public might act when police wouldn’t — potentially damaging trust in the justice system. The proposed rules may also conflict with laws protecting children. Finally, even if retail crime numbers change, it will be hard to know whether that’s because of the law or something else entirely.
…every white supremacist fuckwit in this country is going to believe Goldsmith has given them the green light to smash young Māori who they suspect of retail crime.
As the regulatory impact statement points out, there is no data on this, it’s just bullshit the Exploited Migrant Worker Tobacco Guild have reckoned from their members.
The racial component of retail crime in this country is:
Angry, disaffected Māori and Pacifica youth clashing with exploited migrant Indian and Chinese workers while the white suburbs gasp that ‘something must be done’.
The ‘something must be done’ is from Goldsmith who wants workers AND members of the public to be able to step in and bash those who are judged guilty in the heat of the moment.
The media are focusing on the nonsense automatic tickets that will be written out to shoplifters which is a joke.
If they can’t afford groceries, how are they going to afford a $1000 fine?
The joke ticketing is meaningless, the real threat is the vigilante powers that Goldsmith is promising the Exploited Migrant Worker Tobacco Guild.
If this passes, it will just be a matter of time before some clown decides to the the big man, confront some desperate thief and things get way out of hand.
If some fuckwit in a Supermarket suspects my daughter of shoplifting and places their hands on here, I’m going beat that fuckwit to within an inch of their life, because thanks to Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith, it’s Vigilante Nation – GET YOUR BASH ON!
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That NZers can be tricked by National Party fear mongering to foster and generate Vigilante Nation is astounding, but this is where we are now so ‘GET YOUR BASH ON’!
What will we say when the very predictable cracker/ZB Dad scenario played out and someone gets seriously hurt?
Who cares?
GET YOUR BASH ON!
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Get your brownshirts and blackshirts out of the closet Nactoids.
FFS. This is what happens when you have Radical Right nutters running things.
BTW, would this legalised vigilantism mean Kiwis can bash thieves like Seymour, Willis et al and their donors, who are openly robbing the nation??
Isn’t it a bit racist to assume shoplifters are brown. Aren’t there heaps more poor pakeha?
Yeah it is, and to think that Maori and Pasifika can’t handle themselves physically from being beaten up by whitey is an inversion of reality LOL
Yes.
ZB cracker dad won’t care about poor white folks they only want to bash Maori and Pacifica.
When I was an early teen in the 70s I knew plenty of white shoplifters from wealthy families in my part of Christchurch although I guess that was more a factor of the ethnic makeup of the local community. Poverty is a lot worse now so for many shoplifting might be their easiest option to survive. It’s sickening that the government has deliberately made life worse for many then is actively encouraging violence against them.
Agree. Statistically there are far more disadvantaged pakeha than Maori so I think it’s wrong to assume that it is Maori who are doing it all.
I wonder why we never see those statistics ?maybe its because the colonists are still the reason the english sent police here in the early 1800s .
The rebirth of KKK
But hang on. I thought three strikes and boot camps were stopping all of this? Does that mean the coalition has failed yet again? Crime is increasing? Can’t recruit enough unfit police to work for bullshit pay so you recruit the public?
How is this going to make a difference? Do we seriously believe bystanders in a retail crime situation don’t step in because they are concerned about their legal position? People who are going to intervene will be doing so already. I also think it’s a generalisation to say all retail crime is about poverty so if some freeloading a’hole was clipped around the ear by someone with the fortitude to do so, good job frankly, but I doubt they have a lawyer with them.
paul goldsmith gives me the fucking willies.
You write @ wheel ” I also think it’s a generalisation to say all retail crime is about poverty. ”
It’s a generalisation because it’s generally about poverty so what’s your point?
The only people who steal for fun are the already rich who simply do it for shits and giggles. An ego trip if you like. ( I don’t actually know what ” shits and giggles” means but I’m going to write that anyway.)
Well I certainly have don’t have any empathy for an individual, not living in poverty, stealing. Is all retail crime “generally about poverty”? Maybe you are right, I guess I don’t associate ram raids directly with putting food on the table but indirectly maybe. I think this supposed clarification for vigilante rights won’t make any difference either way.
Lot of stuff here about Maori crime, non-Maori crime.
All getting a bit silly.
Let us try a different approach.
Most crime is committed by poor and disadvantaged people. Prosecution of criminals is often driven by popular prejudices.
One hundred years ago newspapers were not blaming Maori for criminal offending(most Maori lived in rural areas then and had little contact with urban society).
They blamed the Irish. Why?
Irish made up a disproportionate amount of the urban poor that police directed attention towards. This was also because A Northern Irish Orangeman named Cullen headed the police force and held racist attitudes towards Roman Catholic Irish as did Bill Massey, another Orangeman.
Whether a person of mixed race(like myself) calls themselves Maori, Pakeha or New Zealander is largely up to themselves but over the years I have noticed a pattern to society’s classification of people.
When people of mixed race are selected to play for the All Blacks they are Kiwis and we are proud of them.
When people of mixed race are found guilty of criminal offending they are Maori and we are ashamed of them.
Maybe – just maybe – postcolonial Aotearoa is still racist? Maybe it is poverty, addictions and social disadvantage that causes criminal offending.
Please notice I say nothing here about treason committed by elected members of government. That is a different category of criminal behaviour.
‘Doth treason prosper? If it prospers none dare call it treason.’
Ohccch, as guttural as it gets. Some twerp stopped me on the road, because a crime had been committed by someone on a bike. I was on a bike. Under this law the utter twerp could have arrested me. When I would do what all my North Britain genes demand. It woudn’t be nice for the fuckwit.
When you’re bleeding cops to Aussie and you’re short of more than 500 cops -because they’re underpaid and you’ve scuttled any proper pay increase they propose- your only other option is to legalise vigilante activity. NZ is fucked under this mob. And the result of Seymours ‘small Government’ is more meth and other contraband coming across the border, leaving health & safety policing up to employers (hehehe), and relaxing building regulations, allowing another future catastrophic housing/building event. Oh, and reinstating the family reunion immigration policy to finally kill any hope of a pension (and public health system) for Kiwis, because there won’t be a retirement age.
‘trumpet’ was allowed but not my comment?!
You prefer a scummy racist over a true-red social democrat?
I like reading Trumpets posts, he actually says what I suspect that a few individuals on this blogsite actually think, but are to scared or self conscious to actually post.