The real c word in Parliament is Colonialism!
Hana, Debbie and Ra-wiri were handed an outrageously severe punishment for having the temerity of performing a haka in Parliament.
Now.
Everyone must feel safe and secure in Parliament, no one is disputing that.
But the context here matters eh?
The Political Right brought a deplorable race baiting piece of legislation to the very halls of our Debating Chamber in an outright declaration of war upon the Treaty.
Every Māori in that chamber had an obligation to Haka against this deplorable scumbaggery!
Remember, it only happened because David Seymour played Chris Luxon like a fiddling fiddler on fiddling day!
If you don’t want angry hakas in Parliament, don’t do things that provoke angry hakas in Parliament then!
That Hana, Debbie and Ra-wiri have faced the harshest punishment in NZ Political history for performing resistance to a deeply corrosive and malicious bill is an audacity too far.
Over a Billion people watched the power and majesty of that Haka.
History is watching and it’s a very white settler privilege from the Privileges Committee that history is seeing.
The Government is going to banish indigenous politicians from Parliament while the Budget is debated?
This is what we are seeing unfold in front of our eyes.
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TPM treats Parliament with contempt. They should be treated the same way in return.
You don’t reward bad behaviour or else you just get more bad behaviour.
the contempt was the racist redneck Treaty Principles Referendum
If the whinging clowns had any principles, they would take it on the chin.
Like all those whinging clowns that attacked Jacinda saving 20,000 lives eh?
Squeaky, the right leaning MPs went along with that ghastly former PM that you mention and her lockdown. You make no sense.
Anus the locked down was global what planet were you on?
You prove my point Annus…”ghastly former PM” you fucking whinging clown!
Referendum? Did the country have a referendum and no-one noticed?
A slip of the tongue I’d suggest Ada, what he meant was the wasted millions Act, National and NZ First had no problems with, with a bill that showed contempt for the voters of NZ when National said it would not get past it’s first reading. Millions that could have gone into child poverty or pay equity, that contempt.
I would counter-argue that the real contempt has been shown by successive Parliaments towards the non-Maori majority who have been consistently ignored and locked out of being asked about the constitutional arrangements of NZ – their country.
playing the victim card ada no one locked out pakeha it an illusion made up by shit stirrers looking for culture war political point scoring
What ? You mean like israeli’s murdering Palestinians?
Not everything is about Palestine.
Yes it fucking is!
Very profound KWT-Cell.
Bob troll.
Everything is about Palestine?
Literally everything?
I beg to differ . .
Ada – Yes…they, TPM, attempted to stop the vote of the bill…a big no-no…then refused to attend face- to -face the committee to defend themselves…another no-no.
nathan talking shit again like Judith Collins
stephen lennon – No…just the facts…
No Nathan not all the facts at all
Wheel – Please expand on this
Agreed – Everyone understands and respects that there are very strict protocols and standards of behavior expected on marae but for some reason that same shouldn’t apply to parliament?
James Brown the privileges committee didn’t follow the “strict rules” either
Ada the privileges committee didn’t follow the rules anyway. That was pointed out by the representative for those accused, a former National party stalwart. This government is a joke.
Trained Seal Haka at “the rugby” seem fine with many NZers, and when performed for tourists and visiting politicians. Get it right though–there are Haka that are meant to challenge and make a point.
Act and Hobsons Choice white supremacists got their arses handed to them on a plate over the TPB by the biggest mass political movement in years, 300,000 submissions too! and this is a way for some pathetic revenge from right wingers.
The Parliamentary ban for TPM is the colonial Parliament following arcane rules (the rules are not always followed) rather than doing what is right in 2025.
CoC is the most anti Māori Govt. in many decades–even removing Māori words from documents, and Toitū Tiriti must keep on organising till they are defeated.
Tim Jago’s mate David Seymour has openly admitted that he’s ordered that most submissions on the TPB and RSB be completely ignored by public servants. Completely disregarding democratic processes is fine if you run a party full of pedophiles, but standing up for the rights of actual human beings is bad if you’re Maori? Curious.
Spot on, Seymour should resign for such hypocrisy.
Some might think Seymour is a TEKE. (As is the miniature Brown).
Teke’s don’t usually resign though. They just dry up
I’d accept that.
Privileges Committee recommendations are partisan, indefensible and racist
Written By: mickysavage – Date published: 3:39 pm, May 19th, 2025 – 13 comments
Categories: Judith Collins, maori party, Maori seats, Parliament, uncategorized – Tags:
Tomorrow is D Day in Parliament.
What will happen to the Privileges Committee recommendation in Parliament will be fascinating.
I do not expect Te Pati Maori to take this lying down. And I am sure that the Green Party and at least to an extent Labour will be backing them up.
And my respect for Speaker Brownlee has increased recently. He really does appear to be committed to giving MPs a fair go. His definition of “fair” may be tempered by his decades in the National Party but he was clearly uncomfortable at the Privileges Committee recommendations.
https://thestandard.org.nz/privileges-committee-recommendations-are-partisan-indefensible-and-racist/
We have gone back to the 1880s .Pure race hate at work here ,Judith should hang her head is shame ,but she is just another in the growing line of hate filled women in the current government .Even Brownlee cant believe the vile hatred here .
Shut up about colonialism, the real word is common. Commonsense. Commonsense which is totally lacking by using a public school type punishment equating to humiliation; however, the humiliation will backfire bigly.
News on international sites now make this storm in a teacup (compared with global domination by a war hungry A.I. system which confuses young children with enemy soldiers ) and the official reaction look like the meanderings of a lonely dreamer from a hundred years ago, wistfully searching for the last remnants of a long lost ‘British empire’. This overreacting ‘punishment’ erases a hundred years plus of some attempt at reconciliation and redress, serving no purpose other than stirring resentment; the hon Gerry Brownlee should have ruled there and then~ No afternoon tea or smokes for the week ~or something like that.
Thanks for allowing the comment.
Imagine if Luxon or Seymour or Peters disrespected Maori custom on a marae because they believed the tribe in question was behaving in a racist manner. The uproar would be deafening. Guess what we have a colonial past and most of our parliamentary traditions represent this.
The performance of the haka is irrelevant here – what is relevant is that it was against the current rules of the house. If the Maori party honestly wanted to allow performances such as this in the house they could have worked cross party prior to the event, got an understanding and then performed this. They didn’t by choice. This was attention-seeking behavior dressed up as a cultural protest. The punishment – 3 weeks and 1 week suspension – hardly punitive.
The Maori Party need to cut the bullshit, accept the punishment and be smarter next time. Moreover we all know they won’t.
They did the haka, because they had no argument.
Bg – Te Pati Maori is not getting done for the Haka, it was the attempt to prevent the vote on the bill…then refusing to meet fce-to-face with the committee.
Nathan, reality for TPM is whatever they think on a given day.
Ennius – Correct
bg, doing the haka is part of the argument not everything revolves around European philosophy and the argument put forward wasn’t meant to be debated because there was nothing to debate as that had occurred decades ago
Correct stephen however Maori culture and it’s history is not accepted or understood by those who simply have not educated themselves. Ennius, Bob the first, Im right and Bg fine examples of this.
The penalty fits the act of contempt, no respect for protocol. Boot on the other foot, screams of disrespect for Maori tradition.
Bob troll.
Bob the first – Te Pati Maori is getting done by using the haka to stop a vote of the bill, then refusing to meet face-to-face with the committee…feels like a PR stunt from Te Pati Maori.
And the coalition aren’t pulling any on pay equity not saving the budget Nathan?
What about the PR stunt of the woeful Luxon not supporting the actual treaty bill? He could have killed it but road it like a Melbourne cup winner so don’t be hypocritical of TPM.
National are Squeaky Clean – Stay on topic…
On topic Nathan, you aren’t even factual. Get the facts right before attempting to debate me. The vote had already been counted and voted down. Then the haka was performed tearing the bill in half. You have ended up looking silly.
I gave a comparison of your definition of a “stunt” to make a point. It clearly went over your head.
And yet you can’t condemns Bob troll for his stupid comment Nathan?
#BHN The suspension of TPM is unprecedented and even Gerry Brownlee can see it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZRcRCiAOP8
Debbie Ngarewa-Packer and Rawiri Waititi are facing a three-week suspension without pay from Parliament over the haka they did during a vote on the Treaty Principles Bill whereas Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke, who initiated the haka, is facing a seven-day suspension but Speaker Gerry Brownlee has decided, as the punishments are unprecedented and so harsh, the entire Parliament must debate them
That HAKA put NZ on the World map! Seymour wasn’t intimidated! His look says: ” O no! not this crap again! “
“If you don’t want angry hakas in Parliament, don’t do things that provoke angry hakas in Parliament then!”
So they do a haka at anything they dont like- yeah.. thats not how democracy works.
‘Putting those natives into line’ – Te Pāti Māori, MPs react to Privileges Committee decision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yflfA9Ua6p8&list=RDNSRvVynn20ZjE&index=4
Te Pāti Māori have spoken exclusively to The Hui after the Parliamentary Privileges Committees unprecedented decision to suspend three of the party’s MPs. This comes as other members react to the outcome, with some labelling the decision as ‘disproportionate.’ Raniera Harrison reports.
The Maori M.P.s reacted in a real way to this creature Seymour and his bill.
This shallow FOS neoliberal ACT thing listen to this rubbish:
David vs the Media: “Chlöe Swarbrick should move to Venezuela”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BaJw_ggO0U
The HAVES in this once ” god’s own ” are desperate to hold on to their unearned through asset appreciation faux wealth while f# child poverty and deteriorating infrastructure.
I’ve heard that the Government is worried it doesn’t have the votes for the Budget so needs to suspend those three Te Pati Maori MPs in order for the Budget to pass.
I’ve heard that Jimmy Hoffa is alive an living in Oamaru
And sharing a house with Elvis and Marilyn.
I heard Elvis was holding a concert from the same people.This budget will be so good Labour will support it .
You heard the budget would be good?
That’s the best of the lot!
Hahahahahaha!
As an old white farmer I would urge all Maori to Haka the fuck out of parliament until the useless, lazy, greedy, fucking white neoliberals are all Haka’d to take a wee holiday for like, forever.
Our parliament is a corrupt disaster bordering on globally humiliating for all good people here but spins good coin for the terminally urban useless. Aye boys?
Farmers? Maori? Unite then STRIKE! STRIKE until funny little auckland’s bankster buildings are dead bodies on the beach. Once the banks are gone we can have peace and prosperity but until then, we get this shit. Rats rustling in their tailor-mades while their mouse minions squeak, scratch and rustle in the walls of TDB.
She that will achieve??
Luxon: We support the Privileges Committee … read as “We support Privilege”?
Until New Zealand changes by Binding Referendum from the Westminster System for our Parliament the Privileges Committee penalties are fair and reasonable.
Forget the Haka – it is the contempt for the system that is reprehensible and which is what has drawn such draconian penalties. Had the 3 members taken the opportunity to present themselves before the Committee when first invited and argue their case a much more lenient decision would have been arrived at.
Because of the approach they took they had to be made examples of.
How was that referendum contempt by Key in selling off the power Co’s. What was the example that was made of Key?
Parliament has rules. TPM broke them. Punishment ensues, as it would for the other parties too, if they showed such contempt. That’s how democracy works.
Humanity has rules. Like don’t slaughter wee kids trying to hide in the rubble from the tyranny of U$A propped up israeli invaders. You need to fuck off @ gasbagy. You don’t have the right to an opinion about anything here. ” Punishment ensues…” You’d better be careful what you wish for.
All AO/NZ should stand by Maori and fuck the rules of the rich, white and privileged. Am I wrong in thinking there are forces at work to remove the treaty then those in the shadows will turn us into a South Pacific Palestine? And I can write that because that’s how democracy works cunt.
The voters of NZ will hold this government in contempt at the next election and will be gone. That is how democracy works also.
Most will vote fir the Party that will not let TPM or Greens near the reins of power through coalition.
Absolutely Trevor, this latest stunt by TPM and Swarbrick’s appalling display with Jack, will see a leap in popularity for the Right.
Both you and Bob troll are completely wrong, as usual, the treaty bill is evidence of that.
The appalling Luxon and the hideous Willis will cost the right the election and no one want’s a bar of the racist ACT party or Winston First. As for Swarbrick, she made Jack look juvenile and could well end up as deputy PM. Luxon is so piss weak the stunt in making his two Bum boys DP’s having a turn each was amateurish.
Your post sounds like you’ve been drinking Trevor, which probably explains things.
” That’s how democracy works ”
This is not a democracy and hasn’t been for a very long time. Its an oligarchy and its no more democratic than you are for Palestinian rights and the return of their stolen territory.
Compare the damage done by that haka to the people of NZ, to the damage done to NZders, by this CoC govt. led by bitter and disillusioned MPs.
Winston is a bitter old man who is still chasing his knighthood. He might need it awarded posthumously. Seymour is a bitter, childish man who has a secret agenda which we would be really shocked by, if we knew the whole truth.
Luxon is getting bitter knowing he’s the least popular PM ever and probably the least competent too. He isn’t in control and his only talent appears to be foot in mouth stuff.
I think the haka was in fact, a high point, in the usual stupid, misleading dross that passes for debate in that parliament of ours.
Meh – let TPM & the privileges committee duke it out in a public arena like the 3rd rate comedians they are.
LIVE: New Zealand parliament debates suspending Māori lawmakers who performed protest haka
Watch live as a debate is held in the New Zealand parliament to discuss suspensions of three Māori Party legislators who performed a protest haka in the debating chamber last year. The haka is a chanting dance of challenge of great cultural importance in New Zealand, and the three lawmakers – Hana-Rāwhiti Maipi-Clarke, Rawiri Waititi and Debbie Ngarewa-Packer – performed one last November to oppose a controversial bill that would have redefined the country’s founding document.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhitfzzJYYQ
Debate on Te Pāti Māori MPs suspension adjourned until 5 June | 20 May
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglXA0XoVak
(Bishop acted with professionalism and let parliament do what it is there for to control the fate of the country not amateur dramatics. by a bunch of racist clowns
Trevor the pomme calling Maori racist, oh the irony, you are the clown.
I’ll be glad to know I cam avoid bothering with Maori protocols and procedures when I challenge the racist academics and governemnt officials who tried to impose a 2-tier education system. The ones who told me I was racist for being born white, that all white European males around the globe have the same rich privileged life and that immigrants will never be accepted as welcome here unless they are from Pacific Island nations.
Again, good to know that the next time I face a stupid challenge and insult to my culture and history like this I can stand up and fight back by shouting down and screaming at the person. As is common where I’m from.
The Treaty Principles Bill was stupid, but so is TPM in grandstanding this whole protest and demanding that whatever they do at any time anywhere is a protected cultural behaviour.
“I can stand up and fight back by shouting down and screaming at the person.”
No you can’t. First go away and educate yourself on Māori culture and their haka. Your comment is full of ignorance and colonialism. That makes you a racist.
Reading the comments here I can see that racisim rules NZ still .What a disgusting country NZ is becoming .We are heading in the same direction as the USA and Israel .
they got punished more for their continued defiance not just the haka.
You are an absolute idiot racist horn blower.
It was a powerful haka led by a very very brave woman. I’ll never forget it. I felt so united to all of my land, New Zealand, and all of our people, Kiwis, in those moments. I’ll never forget Hana. I’ll never forget her vulnerability either. Right now and tomorrow she has my strength and my support. Thank you for your staunch gift. I now give you mine as well. Shine xx
100% agree she should be a strong member of any future NZ government .Hana is the new wave of voters coming through who will not tolerate the shit that is happening now .That is the reason the COC are rushing shit racist policy through under urgency ,because they know they will likely be toast in the near future .Talking to senior college kids they are sick and tired of the raceisim and anti environment greed being displayed through out NZ right now .No person is born race hating they are raised that way .
The ACT party asked for advice on the full range of possible punishments for Te Pāti Māori MPs following last year’s Treaty Principles haka – including imprisonment.
How far will ACT go to maximise this opportunity ?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/561601/act-asked-for-advice-on-range-of-punishments-for-te-pati-maori-mps-including-imprisonment
Prison should be considered for the ACT party for inciting such an extreme reaction.
In the future, when the dust settles and everyone comes to their sense, I feel there will be an extreme reaction to the ACT party and possibly legislation enacted to prevent the likes of ACT from existing in future. They are too dangerous and I’m surprised anyone who considers themselves a New Zealander would support them or vote for them.
You give them your support but you might be disappointed to know that ACT is not giving you, their support. You are not the people ACT is acting for. You are just useful idiots as far as they are concerned.