Oh FFS…
What is a ‘woman’? NZ First wants to put definition into law
…Jesus wept.
Culture War Winston needs to define a man before he tries to define a woman because a real man doesn’t bully minorities for political shits and giggles!
A real man doesn’t denigrate the environment on a climate change burning planet for trans-national mining interests.
A real man doesn’t falsely accuse Harry Tam of smuggling a covid infected prostitute across boundaries during lockdown.
A real man doesn’t mock migrant Politicians.
A real man doesn’t insinuate another is a child pedophile with only ‘bussy’ as evidence.
A real man doesn’t excite rednecks and Anti-vaxxers.
A real man doesn’t take from the poor to give to the rich.
A real man doesn’t implement policy for donations.
Look.
I have been more critical of middle class woke identity politics than the rest of you combined!
I have bitterly criticised their focus on the low hanging fruit of identity politics over left universalism and have pointed out pure temple politics lose us elections!
It is a terribly sad indictment on woke middle class activists that the millisecond they gained a measure of social power they wasted it on sacking people for not agreeing to trans dogma, mispronunciation of Te Reo or for suggesting female comedians aren’t that funny.
However.
My frustration at their alienating tactics aside, erasing people with revenge legislation is despicable Lynch mob politics and everyone of us as decent citizens should stand against Lynch mobs.
Gender identity is a difficult issue, and it deserves far more respect from both sides, but those were arguments made back in 2016 when the woke were too caught up in their orgy of cancel culture to pay attention to the backlash their puritanical ‘activism’ was generating.
Thanks wokies.
Your manufactured identity is more important than the common ground between us.
Watching the they/thems fuck it up and then having to come to his/her/their defence because of his/her/their fuck up is a wonderful experience.
For those in the queer/non-binary/5th wave feminist cliques who still criticise my position can I politely remind you, you don’t have that many allies any more and I’m not sure you are in any position to be so choosy as to dump any one prepared to stand with you in the coming purge, because what Trump has started with the erasure of Trans people in America is coming here and it is something any decent citizen must resist.
The woke would eat their own young if they weren’t all vegan FFS.
Look.
All Matua Winston is doing here with this definition of a woman stunt is pull a Trump mini-me by importing America’s culture war spite.
Turning on a minority for political gain is beneath the mana of Winston.
It’s beneath the mana of our political debate.
It’s beneath the mana of our country.
Culture War Winston needs to define a man before he tries to define a woman!
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Martyn – After the Albert Park riot mine, and other NZers understanding towards’ the Trans – community took a hit…perhaps the Trans – community needs to clean house of the thugs who were involved in the riot.
Anyone intelligent knows you’re a shit for the Palestine genocide. Paid or not. Paid, I think. Sell your soul for the wrong a good Jew, or Scot, like me, would demand at least 30 pieces of silver. You are a German who looked the other way from the Holocaust. I despise you, as I do the Nazis.
By that logic we would never support any civil right struggles thought history even because you will always be able to find isolated examples of people taking it too far when when you have a large protest
A man chasing 5% need not be a good man.
Sweet Jesus – who actually cares if a person identifies as a man or woman?
It’s like we shouldn’t care if someone is gay or lactose intolerant.
It’s none of our business and we should stay the hell out of it.
We’ve got far more important things to work on, FFS.
Ir’s a basic of being a living person on the planet FGS. Only aliens and symbionts? might not bother about it.
Perhaps we should think about whether this applies to us right at this moment.
There are four main types of symbiotic relationships: mutualism, commensalism, parasitism and competition. Symbiotic relationships are important because they are a major driving force of evolution. This networking and cooperation among species allows them to survive better than they would as individuals.
Symbiotic Relationship | Definition, Types & Examples – Lesson
Study.com https://study.com › academy › symbiotic-relationship-def.
and
Competition is most typically considered the interaction of individuals that vie for a common resource that is in limited supply, but more generally can be defined as the direct or indirect interaction of organisms that leads to a change in fitness when the organisms share the same resource.
Species Interactions and Competition | Learn Science at Scitable – Nature
Nature https://www.nature.com › scitable › knowledge › librar
I would say that we are veering on from competition to parasitism. So much for our superior intellects and learning.
↑ This.
Of infinitely more importance Winston, is where YOU stand on your traitorous mate’s Regulatory Standards Bill, which — well now, let’s see — only threatens our democratic right to pass laws!!!!!!
Doesn’t exactly fit well with a party that calls itself “New Zealand First”, does it?
For the suckers out there who voted NZFirst as a “handbrake” on NActs extreme far-right agenda can I just ask: How’s that workin’ out for ya??
Fabulous
Winston is fighting for survival and a cornered politician with power is a dangerous person
Winston is right and the whole world wrong…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider/media-insider-arrogant-wokester-loser-nz-first-leader-winston-peters-takes-aim-at-rnz-morning-report-host-corin-dann/N73VIZI5XFC6DAWZZDLXCHR5GY/
By survival, you do mean mentally capable.
I am not a Winston fan but I would trust his mental ability against any other politicians of both left and right
I do feel sorry for you Trevor. He is the Donald Trump of NZ politics.
winston peters is one of the few who’ve wasted the last 40 or so years of our lives feeding our wealth to lying scum, many of whom now live in australia.
Winnie? What were you and don bare-chest brash the governor of the reserve bankster, leader of national then ACT talking about outside that cafe in Wellington that time? A time when interest rates were topping out at 22%
” … leader of the New Zealand National Party from October 2003 to November 2006, and leader of the ACT New Zealand party for seven months from April to November 2011…”
And where has that photograph gone of your little tea sipping tete ta tete?
Peters? Have you got little secrets you never share? Have you?
Aw Bless.
Dame Jenny Shipley and Helen Clark talk about their incredible friendship
https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/lifestyle/career/dame-jenny-shipley-and-helen-clark-talk-about-their-friendship-38775/
And what about you Whiny? You got any little secrets? Do you have any ‘incredible secrets’ ? You worthless old fuck. Got anything to say or write about one of your earlier threesomes?
You and * roger and don?
* As greedy as a pig.
https://youtu.be/2xUynRdzzsM?feature=shared
True. I also follow that line when I advocate not dropping threshholds. This at 5% and some advocate 4%, and would that give us better politics? No. The way we run society is full of lies and exceptions to the ‘rule’ and people must be adept at seeking to remain balanced and with a steady eye on what is fair and needed. We can fall so easily. (Israel made this mistake and have brought about an intransigent situation because of that – they have 3.25%)
…Elections in Israel are based on nationwide proportional representation. The electoral threshold is currently set at 3.25%,[1] with the number of seats a party receives in the Knesset being proportional to the number of votes it receives… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Israel
This on Voter Education. https://eos.cartercenter.org/parts/9
Who’s the wokester here the woman who wrote Harry Potter Winston peters or both. Who cares why have a small group of women put my future and my daughters future into the hands of gray stale pale males in women’s wigs. Wouldn’t these women be better off fighting legal battles for equality, prevention of violence against women, nurturing their children who may or may not be gender diverse, gay or lesbian. This Harry Potter woman and her mates do not speak for me so what gives them the right to go to court supposedly on my behalf to change a law affecting me as a woman
Circular argument I think Not – better watch out when you come to the end which is dark and more confusing than your supposed reasoning. Harry Potter’s author believes in women being that and knowing it. Knowing something for sure is very strengthening. So if you could work out something as being definitely right in your own and most other people’s minds, and hold onto it for balance and strength it will brace you.
Idiot….and a female! Dbl whammy
Mean while the world is burning and capitalisim is dying and Winston is worried about how someone wishes to live their life .We dont give a toss that he chain smokes and swills whiskey all day ,but I care when he lies and spins shit to distract from how useless the government he is a member of relly is .
As a gay man I think everyone should be free to be whoever they want as long as they aren’t hurting people and are over the age of 18.
Most people will atleast try and be respectful.
However, while I don’t like that Winston is doing this for political reasons there’s absolutely an argument for some kind of legislation being necessary on the issue of sex v gender.
same sex organizations and clubs, charities and support groups should be able to limit their members to people of the biological sex if that’s what the members and organization wants.
If women’s sports teams don’t want MTF trans women on their team, fine. If gay male saunas don’t want FTM trans men at their venues because their clientele don’t want it, fine, if domestic violence shelters ever decide they don’t want trans woman at their shelters, fine. If mens support groups wanna be limited to biological men, fine.
There are obviously better examples than the ones I’m making but I think there should be exemptions to certain organizations from having to accept members who are biologically the opposite sex of its membership.
compromise is the only way we are going to be able to move on from this issue.
Gay men and women in the fight for equality knew when to compromise, the trans communitys reluctance to compromise on any issue has set their movements acceptance back atleast a decade
There does need to be some clarity on this and only the courts and parliament can provide it.
Certain organizations and charities retaining the right to discriminate based off biological sex in special circumstances is ok and in some examples necessary.
I think that sounds sensible and fair Corey. It used to be that women were kept out of much in society, that Jews were not able to join society organisations in usa and elsewhere – plenty of demeaning attitudes abounded.
Things have improved but it is always good to be able to mingle with those one feels relaxed with. Maybe it would be wise to socially interact at times. Intersex toilets I don’t agree with. If I got stuck and there wasn’t one available for me, I would like to be able to ask for permission to use the other ‘s; if reasonableness and acceptance of difference was usual there would be few problems.
But this encouragement to reject one’s own gender even when tinies or even when teenage, and such a to-do about it, has been a disadvantage to society. It’s not something to be Proud about by those who have instigated it.
No one has a problem with gay or lesbian people Corey, it’s been ‘normalised’ and accepted for decades within the western culture.
Trans however are the new bullies on the block, and have systematically torn down most of the gains lesbian women fought for since the 70s.
Trannies do not affect men whether gay or straight, but certainly affect women and their place in society…and of course women only spaces, by just basically barging in and demanding ‘womens rights’.
I honestly believe the general population would have accepted and been non plussed with transsexuality, but they are burning every bridge they encounter by being militant and violent, the result is public backlash, quite rightly too.
If we are so worried about who uses the toilets, let’s just have unisex stalls – I certainly won’t miss the stinky and sticky urinal wall.
Seriously, this is such a pointless debate. Just let people live their best lives and let’s get out of their way.
The usual laws apply regardless of gender labels. Don’t harm others.
Winston et al are looking like total idiots. I can’t believe that I had a beer with him in Rarotonga years ago. I’d never do that again. What a wanker.
People need to see through his rhetoric and see the attempt at distraction and disinformation for what it is.
Peters and his crowd can just fuck right off. I’ve no patience with his juvenile shit.
Well said
I think Winston Peters is on the Trump-Track to Self-Destruction.
Winnie is Winnie above all. No one intelligent takes him seriously, but the less so do. And he delivers them to the drains they deserve.
Winston is even accusing his own party’s former MP Tracy Martin of passing legislation behind his back… The man’s brain is turned to soup and he’s grifting to voters who’s brains are even soupier
Why is this anything to do with politics in general and government in particular?
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