Jesus wept the latest Roy Morgan Poll has shown a massive collapse in right track/wrong track, the lowest since NZ went into lockdown!
That’s a 17 point month on month plunge driven by women who have freaked out at the extremism of this new hard right racist climate denying beneficiary bashing Government.
Only old men think the country is going in the right direction.
We call these voters, ‘Culture War Boomers’, or ‘Trotters’.
So only old men think the country is going ion the right direction while the majority of women don’t.
When you get sudden and severe number shocks like this, it is a foreshadowing of looming change.
In these numbers we see the right stepping away from NZ First and ACT back to National but the bigger story is how little Chippy has managed to capitalise on a sudden move like that.
National – 38
ACT – 11.5
NZF – 6.5
Labour – 23
Green – 13.5
MP – 3.5
Labour went up 1.5 but the Greens dropped 2.
Cannibalising the Left vote won’t beat this Government.
There is a deep rumbling inside the Labour Caucus with many very frustrated at the lack of actual left wing economic positions.
Chippy has inherited the exact same incremental caution that doomed Grant and Jacinda from being Transformational, yet it is that caution that Labour need to sell to soft National voters if they want to beat this Government.
Chippy needs to sell a radical tax plan and vision of the NZ State in a way that can appeal to those soft National voters without spooking them WHILE appeasing his own left wing Labour supporters who at this stage feel like depressed Warriors fans who keep telling themselves, ‘this is our year, this is our year, this is our year’ endlessly while screaming ‘Up the wahs’ at every passing car.
Labour should be reaping an enormous political harvest from a 17 point collapse in right track/wrong track but they aren’t.
Currently every time Chippy appears on The Platform, he loses another 1000 female voters.
If Labour can’t capitalise on a 17 point plunge in confidence, they need to go home for a cup of tea and a lie down.
How can they be losing to these venal, spiteful and malicious muppets?
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Luxon, Seymour and Winston have personal vendettas that are better than purposeful speeches about who was secound best at the last election.
Now what is the opposite of first place well its a sausage roll. You wanna beat these guys you have to repudiate all of it while some how keeping trans rights, Maori rights and free palastine. Apparently thanks to swing voting woman.
The sour cunt in me reckons all men shouldn’t vote and let these wonderful examples of feminism and power and interlect fuck it all up or we can agree that.
1) Transvestites do not believe that they posses the bodys of the opposite sex rather they believe that they where born in the wrong body.
2) Maori and the Crown agreed to a partnership
3) All murder is wrong.
I didn’t want to upset everyone by talking about all the debt New Zealand is in while Luxon, Seymour, Winston and Chippie creep around all the cheap hotels. Yknow I guess Jane Kelsey was right. These trade deals ain’t worth shit.
Some poor sand muncher in the red sea is just collateral I suppose. Now we have to plan for the greatest democratic exercise New Zealand has ever embarked on – apply make up to gang members.
Trans rights are no greater than anyone else’s. They do not include the right to invade women’s spaces, cheat at sports, or construe failure to kowtow as some kind of new heresy. Until Labour understands this, they abandon a substantial chunk of votes – which they ought to understand at least – since moral argument goes right over their echoingly empty heads.
It’s not a moral argument like I’m not saying that tranny therapy is good or bad and neither am I or anyone else going to enforce a ban on tranny therapy. Trans is a thing fucking deal with it so we can construct a coherent set of rights and responsibilities.
We are not going to kill people because they are trans.
We are not going to convince them to change there ways.
We are going to provide leadership. Safety and confidence or whatever.
How can they be losing to these venal, spiteful and malicious muppets?
Chris Hipkins, is New Zealand’s version of Keir Starmer.
The only difference is the UK Tories are so terrible Starmer can’t lose.
Unfortunately for us we may have to go through one more electoral cycle before our Tories reach those depths,
The only ray of light from this scenario, is by that time Hipkins should be well gone.
I just can’t see a giant in among the Labour Party. Internal promotions and leadership spills won’t do it they need a Giant.
Even the Left has given up on Labour and concedes we’ll have at least two terms of National & ACT. Not exactly optimistic.
The country cannot handle more than one term of NACT.
Of course the country can handle it. It’s just you that can’t. Not that anyone gives a rats.
Sir Kier Starmer and his deputy Angela Rayner are the real deal and have had lives outside of politics.
Chippy was a student politician and that’s about it.
I’m sure he has all the right intentions and entered politics to make a difference but if he’s the answer we’re asking the wrong questions
Starmer was a lawyer, rising to director of public prosecutions before he entered parliament. He wasnt some cloth capped coal miner in Nottinghamshire.
Rayner used to be a care worker before entering parliament, and is unafraid to call out the Tories. But she has certain views that are problematic.
Keir’s Labour is going to be Tory-lite, though will possibly be (a little bit) more to the left than Tony Blair.
Having said that, it will be fun watching the Tories getting routed this year.
“But she has certain views that are problematic.”
In other words, she has real left-wing views – unlike Starmer, who is just another Blairite.
Yeah Kief Stalin is the real deal if you want another decade of tory rule even after the actual tories have destroyed themselves…
A real traitor who knowing used fake antisemitism claims to oust a principle leader.
Starmer is one of Trump’s kind – a self-serving liar.
Martyn – That poll shows how far Labour has fallen in the eyes of many NZers….please Labour, wake up!
So you searched and searched but still couldn’t see how much down the wrong track we’ve come under National. Ut you found Labour dropped a point or two. Well there’s a surprise.
I think this government is so awful that most people are actually shell shocked. We have three leaders in the headlines separately on a daily basis with another anti something somewhere. The left better be organized behind closed doors ( only Chloe Swabrick in the in girl these days ). When this government breaks it will be massive. They are all on a tightrope we never see the three of them together so the animosity is there. I think the saying “give them enough rope” is very apt. Luxon sees us as a business unfortunately his business model is flawed and the most vulnerable will be collateral damage.
Unfortunately I don’t think you’ll see Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party together either.
You are right, we are shell-shocked, we’re over-whelmed at the nastiness and cruelty of it. If it felt like they were competent and going to improve things we’d have patience, but it doesn’t feel like that.
Can we be sure Luxon ran his last company well? Who says? And as many try to say, we are not a business and having lots of collateral damage is not running a country successfully and well.
Why is a minor player like Seymour getting so much say. Where’s the education minister? He’s not a well-known child and educational expert. Where is someone with actual experience in the education sector and parenting who knows the realities? Having been to school yourself, does not make you an expert.
As someone noted all 3 so-called leaders have axes to grind and scores to settle. That’s no way to run a country.
Give them enough rope and we’ll all be swinging.
People who follow headline politics have no clue. Honestly, I think we have enough to deal without inventing imaginary leadership coups in Labour. I remember well when you Martyn supported David Cunliffe as the second coming (who is now a management consultant) Look how that worked out. It is solid work, on the ground, being involved, having our say in policy development, building our organisation on the ground and calling out this horrible government, Chippy is just one person in the Labour Party.
Darien+Fenton – That is dishonest…The Labour Party actively demote people who challenges the leadership…while promoting yes men/women all the time…it is a echo chamber.
Sorry but when were last in the Labour party Nathan?
Unfortunately he is the one person who is the leader. He is so blinkered to himself and flawed, he has to go for Labour to reinvent itself. It must do this NOW. !!! Labour need to take a page out of the Greens who seemed to buck the hell up when it really mattered, before the last election and became credible again after failing around for what seemed like decades.
Yeah but – Nah but….. !
@ MB. But you know that Neo-Labour is further right than a tourist here from a left hand drive country.
Labour has a far right infection given it by roger douglas and others to divest our once was fantastic society of the money derived from the transition of its state funded assets and resources into the hands of 14 multi-billionaires, 3118 multi-millionaires and the 4 now foreign owned banks stealing $180.00 a second in net profits 24/7/365 grifted from us so since then we’ve had ZERO Left wing, or as I’d prefer to see it as an evolved, normal, inclusive, fair and reasonable politics by us for us.
Currently , we have no politics at all. We’ve just got greed and the victims of it and the only way what can only be described as gangster zombies can see going forward is by going backwards by handing the sovereignty of our AO/NZ over to the Australians or private individuals so as they can make good their escape.
The fuckers have been at it for forty years now. That’s forty wasted years of compliantly standing by why the burgled us.
I’m reminded of one the stories in a dire film I watched once called ‘ The Acid House’ based on an Irvine Welsh story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acid_House_(film)
In it there was a fellow and his girlfriend living a life in an apartment building. Upstairs from them was a nasty little skin head who effectively took over the weaker fellows life down stairs. He began by smashing a hole on the weak fellows floor, dropping an extension cord down through it and helping himself to the weak fellow’s electricity. He then helped himself to the girl while the weak fellow had to take it by listening to them fucking in front of the heater and the TV he was now supplying with power.
Sound familiar? roger douglas smashed his way into our AO/NZ with a sledge hammer then sold us to foreign owned banks while enabling multi-billionaires and multi millionaires to help themselves and now we must walk past the homeless and wretched while we, ourselves barely get by.
We really, really need to take our AO/NZ back before it’s too late.
Forget Hipkins. He’s one of them. Forget Labour too. We need to think differently to achieve a different outcome. Farmers? You, are our income. @ Maori? You, are the Treaty so fucking use it.
Farmers and Maori? You guy really, really need to have a barbi and a beersie and come to an arrangement whereby you can watch each other’s backs or we’re all fucked.
If you don’t and luxon, seymour and peters do you, and us by extension, in, then you’ll never live it down. You have one chance. Don’t fuck it up.
Now here comes the exciting bit. You’ll be wailing ” But how….??? We’re only little. ”
Well, you’re not that fucking little. You have the economy. You ARE the economy so why is your economy being lavished on useless cunts then? While whanau live in appalling conditions on ‘barren farm land’. ( Omg. Eye roll re that one.) While people like my sheep farmer neighbour who works from day light till dark and sometimes beyond just to pay his taxes and rates. What the fuck, is that about then? I can tell you. You’re standing by like stoned muppets while luxon and his urban cronies bash a hole in your ceilings to help themselves to your money while they fuck you without the kissing. That’s how so just say ” No! ”
Stop work for twelve months. Prove to yourselves that you can organise yourselves to be able to do that
and the fear, the shock wave, that’ll go through AO/NZ will be so great that you won’t actually need to do it but you do need to prove that you could, so don’t fucking push your luck! Maori and farmers need to step up and stay in bed.
There is one small thing that worries me. And that thing is that we may be too late. Our primary industry agriculture is in recession when it should be booming ahead. Why? Why is that?
Farmers? Maori? There’s no time to waste. ( I’m a lone squeak in the wilderness and this, is all I have left. I don’t know what else to do.)
Unless the left buck up their ideas I can see the left being in the wilderness of opposition for the next 21 years so deep is the betrayal felt by left voters.
Labor needs to get back to basics
Get rid of Chippy, he is useless and the reminder of a bad dream
Push for a wealth tax
Lower tax rates for working people
Raise tax rates for the rich
Start a new WOW to build cheap houses
Import cheap GKD houses from China Hell a top of the line one costs US $7900
Get rid of building industry rorts that make obscene profits for the few greedies
Create a new land for building on division for cheap land I mean 1/8 acre for NZL $5000.00
Be self sufficient in oil, coal and steel and aluminium and food
Make most enterprises state owned.
And a few other things I haven’t thought of yet.
Totally agree. The Left need to present a position that is a clear alternative to the current neoliberal political environment, which is not beholden to donors, is collectivist (for the common good of all NZer’s), and future focused. Current regime always had an agenda of ‘NZ up for sale’ hence the current urgency to ‘get things done’ with the lie that the last Govt has left the country in serious economic problems requiring radical change (the ‘Shock Doctrine’). Where have we seen this before?-Ah… Roger Douglas, Ruth Richardson!! The coalition actually don’t care if they aren’t re-elected in 3 years as their changes will be so profound and shocking that the beneficiaries (‘the owners’) of these changes will have the force of the law behind them.
I disagree. There is no need for a sudden lurch to the left. It would make Labour look desperate. Hipkins is a canny politician. He will work inside the Labour movement to turn the ship. The very last thing Labour needs is another series of internal power struggles.
@ Steve Nnnnh…What! Are you kidding? The sudden lurch to the right has given us 40 years of neo-liberalism so I think anything sudden to the left would be fucking awesome right now.
But really? I mean, really? You think the Chipkins is canny? He’s about as canny as a one piece jigsaw puzzle that’s come with instructions AND directions. He has the complexity of an un-licked envelope. His gobsmacked little face is always searching about for an excuse to go home and have a cup of tea with a biscuit. A nice plain pious biscuit mind. None of that chocolate rubbish.
As a country collection, we’re far too fabulous for our own good so we’re going to attract worms and fuck me if we didn’t. You ever had a gorgeous partner? In my case, a female human girl type special cuddles friend? You’ll know then that everybody wants to fuck her. Everybody wants our AO/NZ. Everybody so we need a leader with proper fore arms and a rude good trouser bulge. We need a swearer and story teller. None of your Moo Mee Moo with a soft fluffy follow through. We don’t need a potless tea cosy. We need an arse kicker not an arse kisser. ( I’ve just realised that I wrote in the male narrative. Apologies. Serious.)
This is what’d get me up and out off my chair. I’d like to see Chipkins walk over to luxon and knock the cunt out then drag him along to kick his bald balls up his flunky-to-the rich arsehole. But that’s just me.
What about you guys? Are you well fucking over this tedious shit? While we fiddle with our diddles and our nubbins all our money’s falling out of our pockets and purses It’s like *wanking in your car at 100 kph. You’ll probably cum but you’ll die trying to pick up what ever’s just fallen out of your purse/wallet and is now down around and under the brake peddle.
If you do wank in your car at 100 k, or faster, just sayin, make sure you undo your safety belt because you might need to do an urgent lean-over to sort things out in case you get pulled over, if you know what I mean.
Yet another disgusting rant.
Brilliant post countryboy! Clearly defined by Bob’s usual lack of intelligence.
Um, Labour is desperate.
The Trotters and baby Trotters are all getting there news from the Platform now that news hub is finished. That’s why Chippy is flirting with t platform.
It is because the people who voted the incumbents in are “venal, spiteful and malicious muppets”
I’m well known as a lovely chap.
Self adulation, another sign of vanity or is it insecurity?
Unfortunately there are a lot of people who stlll want to stick it to the workers and the poor,
Nope Millsy….
And those same people don’t want to kill trans people, don’t want gays killed. Seems everyone who disagrees with you is an LGBT killer, is there something you want to tell us Millsy? I think you are so far in the closet you spend a lot of time in Narnia.
Just normal NZrs who were sick of Labours terrible management of the country.
So just suck it up and accept it, not everyone is as bitter and twisted as you.
Yeah, the government ran the country so badly that everyone got a payrise and flash protections at work. Or free prescriptions, or environmental regulations that cracked down on air and water pollutions, more state houses,
“Seems everyone who disagrees with you is an LGBT killer, is there something you want to tell us Millsy? I think you are so far in the closet you spend a lot of time in Narnia.”
And why exactly does that pique your interest? Is there something you want to tell us?
Should I book a room for you?
And can I ask? Who the fuck is Roy Morgan?
Abnormal NZrs vote right.
You see and that’s the difference…Luckily there are more people who are shit scared of NZ being the next Zimbabwe
At least there was free healthcare in Zimbabwe.
Free healthcare is of no use when there are inadequate facilities and a critical shortage of health workers.
Good heavens “Free healthcare is of no use “
Funny that Jonzie, now we’re like Russia or Germany.
Good heavens “like Russia or Germany.”
I said before the election if you are ,
FEMALE
BROWN
GAY
DISABLED
OR ON THE BENNY
You will be fucked over
Looks like I am correct
I called the recession
When will Hipkins resign,more importantly who is there to replace him?
plenty of options to replace the old guard … but irrespective of who I might suggest, I am confident you and your troll mates would seek to negate … so I won’t.
Brilliant retort Bob.
NOOOO Nooo Bob, everyone knows Chippy is only a caretaker leader now, so…let us know who you think should be leader, saying you know but fear ridicule is cowardly, state your position, your thoughts!
Ridicule is I’m tighty righty’s middle name.
Options include …?
Parker.
Jackson.
Kieran.
Whatshisname.
Whatshername.
Yeah, there are heaps of options.
Love it! National ministers were so inept they had to hire for their CEO boss externally.
Judith Collins had 12 goes and the rest have all jumped ship.
Unfortunately current government appear competent vs the previous government which appeared incompetent in the news narrative. And then at the end of their term they hadn’t bedded in the changes they did make. Even right voters looked at their mandate and were like if you can’t do something beneficial with that your actually incompetent.
How is that perception and fact going to be changed. Incumbents lose elections and after the next three years of recession and service slashing their could be change but only if there is a viable alternative. How can that happen if Chip believes its all just tidal.
Yeah could not believe he said that. How bloody hopeless and clueless he is. Doesn’t he believe in anything?? Why oh why was he chosen as leader.
Labour has zero interest supporting in workers against the rich, when will you get that and stop wasting ink
Please provide the evidence Don because Labour’s last turn at bat had massive increases through pay equity and minimum wages.
National on the other hand promote the rich believing in the trickle down effect.
As to this story, it is hardly surprising this poll says we are on the wrong track with decisions like this…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350235161/mental-health-minister-scrambles-suicide-prevention-office-caught-cuts
You are a broken record.
I agree squeaky, you are a broken record….but even posting after your own post stating that you indeed are a broken record is the most truthful thing you have posted since you have been on here.
Well done….
Squeaky undermines further his fragile credibility every time he comments,so I say let him run.
Bobby undermines further his fragile credibility every time he comments,so I say let him run.
I cannot see labor getting in, in the next 7 elections, so deep is their betrayal against old and grassroots labor with chippies captains call against tax the rich.
First labor has to prioritise whom they really support. True hardworking people that are stuck in this neo liberal country.
5 cents Nothing is sure in the Shaky Isles, geologically or politically or climatically or?
Firstly, it’s not Labor. It’s Labour. Secondly, if you bothered to be involved you would know there are policy conferences coming up soon. Dates out now. I just filled in a survey from the NZLP Policy Council as well about priorities I don’t want Labour to be a dictatorship from the top down ; I want our members to have a say, and you should support that too. That will take time. If you want change, you have to help make change, not wallow in past grievances.
Point well taken Darian.
“Lies dammed lies and statistics”; extremely viewed these figures show that only 17% would vote for a party that have said they will tax the wealthy to pay for services and replace dilapidated infrastructure.
We get what we vote for – retaining the neoliberal status quo!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-seymour-tells-schools-to-mark-climate-protest-students-absent/OBIA6OW2BZGKTJL7IYLXRPQXCU/
So much for the party of free speech!
He just doesn’t like being defied. Those school children learnt far more yesterday than they would have at school.
Seymour doesn’t want a well-educated, well-informed population. He wants people who are too scared to think for themselves. That suits his purpose much better.
I think the real question is how long the current cobbled together coalition can last. Seymour and Peters are overly enamoured of anglo-australian conservative populism, but after Boris Johnson made a dog’s breakfast of the Covid-19 pandemic and reignited the latent factional chaos within the Tories as a consequence, the UK Labour Opposition is leading their Tories by about twenty points. YouGov and SkyNews UK (!!!) estimate that the consequent electoral wipeout facing the Sunak regime will be worse than under John Major in 1997. I know, I know, I have grave reservations about Keir Starmer too, but anything’s better than the current retinue of time serving neoliberal apparatchiks in Downing Street.
They need to face facts. Indulging authoritarian populist culture war drivel at a time of cost of living crisis is asking for electoral trouble. I mean, take the ACT call for a Treaty Principles Bill referendum for instance. What, nine million dollars for a vanity referendum at a time when this coalition is attacking public health, education and welfare spending? Good luck with that. And I’m afraid that if they delay a referendum on four year terms, it’ll get linked with the desire to punish the current regime.
As for blaming Chris Hipkins for everything, oh come on!!! The nonparliamentary Left needs to properly organise, strategise and build a mass movement for a Capital Gains Tax before we can expect Labour to make that policy objective concrete. So far, it has failed to do so. Perhaps Labour does need a new leader. Or perhaps as a whole, the Left needs to wake up, strategise and plan properly for 2026.
The Left absolutely need to do that.
Look, I’m getting fairly tired of people blaming Labour for not introducing a Capital Gains Tax when it was and is the nonparliamentary Left that needed to do its homework, properly strategise, set up a mass movement for change and move the tax policy debate leftwards instead of leaving that policy debate to the Taxpayers Union, New Zealand Initiative, ACT ad nauseum. Mass movements and evidence-based arguments fuel social and economic change. Public opinion may be on our side on that issue, but focus and strategy need to happen first, people!
As for the Labour is no better argument, MMP means that there’s always the Greens and Te Pati Maori to consider. If ACT and New Zealand First can inflict authoritarian populist culture wars on us now, watch out when the pendulum swings back. We need to think about how to make it do so.
Labours problem is not just an incompent leader and a legacy of talk and not do, it is who now is their constituency?
Is it the traditional worker who gets out of bed at 6am to be at work at 7 works 5 days recieves 3.5 days pay, with the other 1.5 days going in tax. Tax which is given to his beneficiary neighbour who for what ever reason does not get out of bed to go to work.
Each of these people have different expectations of Labour, expectations which are incompatible. Lower tax or more benefit
The worker increasingly see Seymore, rightly or wrongly as their champion, while the beneficiary sees Swarbrick as the answer.
So just who now are Labours people?
Only the woke, rainbow and those people employed by the Government?
“The worker increasingly see Seymore, rightly or wrongly as their champion, ”
You can’t make this shit up!
Not made up Squeaky.
Go to a working mans pub on a friday night and LISTEN to what is being said.
I suggest you will be astounded!
The working man has left Labour.
What a stupid comment, at a working mans pub they are saying what a crazy government we have, previously they said we need a change of government, now they’re ssying they got it wrong.
Perhaps the hotel you visit in Epsom see it differently.
And weighing in from the neo-nazi corner. Cliffordj
Arbeit macht frei
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei
Just like the German Nazis, who plastered the words Arbeit macht frei over their concentration camp gates, Just like the German Nazis blamed unemployment in Germany on the unemployed, indolent Jews and Gypsies and communists to lazy to work. Cliffordj blames the unemployed for unemployment.
“….the traditional worker who gets out of bed at 6am to be at work at 7 works 5 days recieves 3.5 days pay, with the other 1.5 days going in tax. Tax which is given to his beneficiary neighbour who for what ever reason does not get out of bed to go to work.
Each of these people have different expectations of Labour, expectations which are incompatible. Lower tax or more benefit” cliffordj
What this nasty little ACT supporter Cliffordj doesn’t mention, is that the Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Orr touted increased unemployment as an alleged cure for inflation. And implemented policies to make it happen.
Adrian Orr: Beating inflation will mean higher unemployment
By Liam Dann
NZ Herald 26 Oct, 2022 09:35 PM, 5 mins to read
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/adrian-orr-beating-inflation-will-mean-higher-unemployment/WO3WLQQUGWEC5NVK3AQTR2BN5A/
And you.Pat totaly miss my point.
The working man has left Labour, you and your like need to come to grips with why.
Beating up on those that state reality is not solving Labours problem, just ensuring they stay in the wilderness for longer.
Careful Pat Oh dear – too much passing talk of german events is a waste of real ammunition – we might get close to them and then want to quote them – but not yet.
The trades people I know definitely do not support Labour (Chippy) and have no connection to the likes of Swarbrick.
I’m at a working man’s pub right now and am LISTENING to people saying Seymour is a cock. You may like Seymour in your small bubble but all those outside of Epson think he’s a fuckwit. By the way Epsom pubs aren’t working men’s clubs Cliff.
The working man IS Labour you fool.
True working men don’t vote Labour anymore they are more inclined to Act.
I wouldn’t expect you of all people would know what a “true working man” really is, so simply another stupid comment by the Bob bot.
Most tax is spent on health, education, superannuation & benefits are well down the list so your working man is obviously uneducated as well which I guess is how you like people to be so that they believe your lies.
” Chippy has inherited the exact same incremental caution that doomed Grant and Jacinda from being Transformational ”
He didn’t inherit it Bomber he was one of the main architects of it !
The deepening crises on all fronts being perpetuated by these evil corporate despots will need a strong united force to fight it and have a plan the deviates away from what we have had at least since 2008 and the current NZLP in its current form and direction is simply incapable of providing a real alternative to the ravages of free market capitalism and the current plutocracy.
Hipkins represents FAILURE not the leader that is needed to fight and replace what is in government now. There is a massive power vacum in New Zealand when it comes to a movement that can take on the class of entitlement and austerity.
Its no good when only a handful of LINO MP’s grumble about the lack of real left wing direction and policy.
That approach is unelectable.
if I never saw or heard Hipkins again it would be too soon. For the people and reality.
I’d say the Greens are the replacement Left party, like Labour was to the Liberals, except MPs keep falling off.
Labour has no credibility after 40 years of failing the people. Viciously vile. But good luck with your CVs. I hope to never see any of you again.
Hipkins is electable even though he achieved little as minister of everything. Swarbrick is a threat to Labour but the Greens are only interested in the environment in the six weeks before an election. Parker is the man with brains but he probably doesn’t want to be in power with the Greens.
Personally, I would wait for more polls in the coming few months before commenting on Labour’s post 2023 election performance.
There is plenty wrong with Labour – I don’t think I’ll ever vote for them again.
But running attack articles against them on the basis of polling, when they’re not within a year of regaining power isn’t helping. It’s the kind of thing Rupert Murdoch would do.
I think it’s time to shake up the glass globe and send the particles of Labour brain, at present invisible, to become charged moving rapidly like the white snow in the glass balls.
Hopefully it would end up looking like a Faraday’s ball/plasma ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZB6z3jObAU
All about Faraday, from poor boy but curious, and meticulous note taker, bottle washer in a lab to honoured genius. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1A1WTVKFQ 11.37 mins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday#Later_life
Politicians could never match such dedication and cogitation!