What kind of maggots would call for a woman’s pants to be pulled down during a protest?
Why these anti Co-Governance KKK maggots, that’s who…
‘Pull her pants down’: Woman dragged from Palmerston North anti co-governance meeting
A woman has been dragged out of a Stop Co-Governance meeting by her legs in Palmerston North.
Victoria Jakobs was one of hundreds who went to stand against the Stop-Co-Governance meeting at the Rose City Club Room at the Lido Aquatic Centre on Park Rd on Saturday night.
Jakobs, who is Pākehā, had entered the meeting with her sign and whistle to protest the roadshow that has travelled the nation in recent months.
She said she was expecting to be asked to leave and be escorted out by police.
Instead, Jakobs said as she was sitting on the ground holding her sign and whistling loudly, she was grabbed by one woman and four men, had her head pulled back to rip her whistle from her mouth, and was dragged from the meeting by her legs with someone from the meeting yelling for them to “pull her pants off”.
…look, I don’t care what crazy racist bigoted view you have against co-governance, but when your supporters are actively assaulting protestors and calling to ‘pull her pants down’, you need to take a long hard look at yourself.
I didn’t think I could be appalled any more by these anti Co-Governance nutters, but they managed to find a sewer lower than they currently play in.
It’s funny watching people scream that having juice poured over you is assault, yet are silent over anti Co-Governance things assaulting. woman and calling for her pants to be pulled down.
Rank hypocrites.
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Pulling someone’s pants down is a form of humiliation, nothing sexual about it. The crazy lady sat there blowing a whistle, she deserved to be dragged out. What are the protesters so worried about? Just a few dozen grey party members moaning about the mowrees. Don’t give them oxygen.
It’s a form of MYSOGYNIST, violation and abusive sexual assault on a woman for daring to oppose some males. Humiliation is a part of it, but it’s also much more than that.
The correct response would be to call for police response. this is what happened when a transactivist protester interrupted a speech in the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/30/trans-activists-disrupt-kathleen-stock-speech-at-oxford-union. The police waited for 20 minutes til the police removed the protester.
Wait for police to remove disruptive elements at a private meeting? Do you think the presence of bouncers at bars is a violation of human rights too? What about security guards in malls?
This was gender based violence, which shouldn’t happen anywhere. The same as at Albert Park. The clothing removal exhortation was a new low, and it should be rejected by all.
Removing an uninvited guest has little to with gender bias.
Common assault is a criminal offence. The victim should lay a complaint with the police so that they can investigate and take appropriate action.
no khan but what would you say if a mallcop wanted to pull down your wifes pants…cue whining
RAF, “Pulling someone’s pants down is a form of humiliation, nothing sexual about it.”
That a view of a sexual predator child molestor!! What happen to free Speech that the right keep insisting?
Did anyone pull down the pants of the many protestors that disrupted children going to school and swore at people going to work in the anti vax mob protest in Wellington?
Not sexual? Would the guy have called to pull down the pants of a male protester?
No they drenched them,including the children.
Played loud music all night to disrupt their sleep.
Engaged the Police to forcibly remove them.
Gave the perpetrator a cushy well paid job abroad.
Bob the first. Both are equally bad. Mallard’s plum posting was yet another error of judgment on the part of Jacinda Ardern and her dubious advisors.
Those people they drenched threw gas cylinders on fires. Fuck Bob you’re a true idiot.
This was just one woman v a group. It’s much easier to manhandle a woman on her own than to bully the multitude at Parliament. Logistics.
You are referring to Bob, Stephen, such is his history?
Those elderly Pakeha attending these racist anti co governance rallies are feral and why is my taxes paying for our police to guard what his face Batchelor he can piss of back to Australia with his hit stirring.
Ah, Covid, thank you for the laugh. The feral elderly ? Really ? Feral? Most do well to buy food and to keep warm, and feral is a notion come far too late; a dream of the lost time when they wouldn’t have dared, and were much too occupied with the everyday business of living.
so much for rightwingers love of free speech raf…
Very few of us would tolerate someone blowing a whistle while we tried to listen to a speaker, regardless of what the topic is.
If a protester came to our local Marae with a sign and blew a whistle constantly during proceedings I would expect a lot of bruises by the time they found themselves back outside the gates. Just like the ‘pure trans love and joy’ at the Parker event, if protesters just appreciated the value of free speech rather than try to over-ride the rights of others then this crap would not happen.
Now you’re Maori????? Stop kidding yourself BW. Your recent and past blogs have had extreme anti-Maori sentiments!! Go back to the drawing board lol.
Stephen, I have detailed my genetic background on this site previously. But regretted it ever since. Only identity-obsessed people care about race. Remember this quote from MLK?
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
I don’t care what race, gender or religion anyone else is. Those who do are bigots.
The really funny thing is I have spent a lifetime believing my views of being racially colour-blind, anti-corporates, anti-authoriatarian, pro-democracy, pro-free speech put me cleanly in the centre-left of the political spectrum. It has been a weird experience to find all those things now mean I am “far Right’, according to the modern incarnation of the (woke-) Left, and racist according to people like you.
Good on ya Ben.
I also choose to share MLK’s dream.
Nobody beat the crap out of the anti vax protestors that burst into the vax clinic in Wainuiomata calling Teresa Olsen ( Wellingonian of the year person) a murderer Ben Wire-matey
Ben Waimata – totally agree, protestors should NOT be allowed to disrupt free speech by drowning out the message.
If they want to peacefully protest outside, by all means.
Yelling to pull pants down is not acceptable but it sounds like pants pulling didn’t happen and was not suggested by the speakers but someone yelling out in the audience.
The police should have pulled out the whistle disrupter themselves and arrested them, thus not allowing the listeners who couldn’t hear, do it and also have removed/warned/arrested anybody yelling about pulling down pants. Although again a freedom of speech issue – is it freedom of speech, if acted on, defiantly becomes criminal. Just yelling it, I am not so sure it is a crime.
NZ has to urgently follow through on actual violence and crime and stop getting distracted by speech that is never enacted. They seem to have no resources to arrest real violence but plenty of resources for people who don’t like what someone has to say. Thus police are losing the public, who are not protected, while the easily triggered seem to have police at their beck and call for investigation speech, never acted on.
Again it is a similar thing where burglers and muggers in NZ are enabled to feel they are allowed to do whatever they like and police appear more interested in criminal rights of not being restrained than actually the victims of the crime who are trying their best to stop them.
You’re a bit hard on the police here. It’s only biographical women who the police don’t seem keen to protect regardless of what they might have to say: it’s the singer, not the song.
It’s biological women, not biographical women, who the police don’t seem keen ( no pun intended) on.
but would you reply with violence ben? honest answer required
My god this makes the Posy parker tomatoes protest look like a day out at the fair. Tells us all we need to know about anti co governance groups, irrational.
I’m sure that the 71 yo with the broken cheekbone who was punched in the head three times agrees with you Mike. She’s sitting at home with her grandkids thinking Posy Parker was all just about the throwing of some tomato soup for sure. I imagine you have viewed the video? Should have gone to Specsavers!
teacher teacher tommy did it first…DOES NOT make it ok
I’m all for annoying dicks who try and prevent others speaking being removed but did they really say ‘pull her pants down’?
Why would you do that?
Maybe the elderly and farmers trying to work out her pronouns?
I dont know that much about the story so could be wrong.
But I cant help thinking? Did anyone other than the victim say they heard this comment? Who made the comment? A man or a woman? Was the comment made in response to (and this is how I imagine it came about) to something like her shouting “Dont drag me by the legs you’re going to pull my trousers off” so some asshole replies “Pull her trousers off, it’ll serve her right”.
Not acceptable but context is everything. I dont think normal people just say out of the blue “Pull her trousers off’
Probably because they were bunch of small minded arseholes.
Sitting whistling? Absolutely annoying but call the police don’t grab the person by the head and physically manhandle them.
Only one person was a right twat who needs a slap around the ears?
Good to see the meetings have far less twats and muppets than the mob supposedly governing everyone at the meeting.
condoning violence again PB!! How the TDB lets filth like you on these blogs is dumbfounding
He’s just like his sister Maggie, Stephen, a bully.
Yeap I have no problem advocating a good old slap around the ears now and again when warranted.
You namby pamby brigade is why we have so many problems in society today. Molly coddling does not work when dealing with twats, muppets and the perpetually offended like yourself.
Just keep out of girls toilet spaces you dirty old man.
She wants to be a smart arse blowing a whistle “loudly” in her own words she deserves everything she gets. No prob with silent protests on either side of the spectrum. But when you ramp it up don’t complain about the consequences.
Wrong. She was being disruptive, but males who will never be females are not in the position to be commenting about a women’s issue, so butt out.
“Jakobs, who is Pākehā, had entered the meeting with her sign and whistle to protest the roadshow that has travelled the nation in recent months”
What the absolute fuck has her race got to do with anything?
FFS we are going backwards
XstraightXedgeX, It saying that Pakeha people don’t tolerate racism. That a positive isn’t it? Also aint the right constantly demanding from the left “Free Speech”? “democracy” which encompasses right to protest? You might have to re-examine your value system dude?
Sadly in the modern world of ‘enlightened woke’ we are expected to see people as one dimensional cardboard cutout versions of the real world, where identity group is all important and nothing else matters. Personally I still prefer to look at a persons character.
Eh? Race has everything to do with it according to the bigots running these events. Julian Batchelor is a fucken moronic douchebag and should be told this at every opportunity. A loud whistle is a good alternative but yeah, a little OTT and obviously raises the bar with regards to tolerance.
According to what she said on RNZ, she wasn’t necessarily expecting to get in, but assumed she was admitted because she was pakeha, whereas Maori were blocked from entering. That’s part of the relevance.
More meeting sites will be canceled so her protest worked
No her protest did not work for it will send the movement underground to secrecy and partisan obstructive action.
Remove the ability to have a public meeting and the meetings plus messages will go private.
The ability to disrupt a meeting does not end information dissemination from the meeting organisers and participants .
At all times it is best to hold discussions in public.
The anti free speech brigade on show on the TDB today.
Bob the last, actually it’s the right-wing anti-co governance that spins about ‘Freedom of Speech’ right to democracy then drags a woman and yells pull her pants down to humiliate her and her message.
Correct Stephen.
Anti free speech verus the right to protest I didn’t hear or see you lot moaning about the dicks who protested for weeks in Wellington the anti vax mob.
no the rightard anti free speech brigade where on show during this incident…same as the pp incident bob the lefty and you can’t avoid that.
and the anti co governance vote will continue to grow as a result.
Thugs veto so dumb!
Shona, The anti-co governance will be going against their conservative values. Remember that NATZO & ACT were the architects to this Co-governance arrangement because it took a big chunk of financial responsibilities away from the govt and place that responsibility on Iwi who had to find a business model to finance the resources under co-governance arrangement, also it gave the impression that NZ were upholding their commitment to the TOW. These don’t affect you or I in the bigger scheme of things only the wealthy.
You need to stop the Maori-hating and start questioning any political party that sends racially charged messages like what ACT does routinely.
I have lived in an area of NZ that is majority Maori for most of my life you numpty! And I know exactly what is happening politically in NZ right now because unlike you I am not an ignorant bigot. I have been predicting for nearly 3 years that this would happen because of Labour’s racist policies. Which unlike you I have read. And unlike you i know they are not predicated on National’s economic decisions made while in coalition with the Maori Party. Which by the by have NOT delivered for majority Maori. Labour’s decisions are predicated on the decisions made by activist members of the judiciary. They are bullshit and historically inaccurate and non binding on parliament. A racist cabal of Maori cabinet members have bullied an ignorant collection of useless guilt ridden hand wringing pakeha cabinet members into destroying our democracy . Fuck em and oh and fuck you too !
Fuck em and oh and fuck you too !
Shona, that’s exactly what you and these qanon, feral anti co governance group were trying to do. As a woman you should be ashamed, yet given your own language, it’s clear you’re no woman.
A woman can swear and still be a woman.
Also if you are going to go all ‘1890’ on this why are you swearing at a woman?
Are you not a gentleman?
No the protest did not work because the message is that nobody is allowed to have public speaking anymore or debate about a major issue that clearly people want to talk about. It will make people even more annoyed that a small percentage of protestors are allowed to stop anybody talking about a major issue that has had virtually no debate in NZ.
Serious stuff.
Certainly one of the most dastardly threats anyone could receive as a 3 year old.
I’m sure she was terrified while honking on her whistle and banging the pot lids shouting “nah nah can’t hear you”.
That’s assuming you believe her in the first place.
It wasn’t the protester who reported the ‘pull her pants down’ comment. I heard it on the video of the incident that was circulated on twitter on the day it happened.
Martyn – I have mixed feelings on this post, yes, what happened at the meeting was bad, however, I am not sure I would gate crash a meeting of people whose views I am against…
Gate crashing is offensive to those choosing the protection of the gate.
Gate crashing is not practicing free speech, it is entitlement and oppressive behaviour.
Protest all you like, but adhere to common decency. Now, someone will need common decency defined……. You know it, if you see it. Like the “Golden Rule”. If you can turn your face away from it, you will be okay!
JKT – Yes, gate crashing is a bit entitled…
I wouldn’t do that either. But, the response from the guys at the meeting was disgusting.
Karolyn-Is – No arguments from me on that one.
Some people do not believe that what they see with their own eyes.
Assault is a criminal act and the victim should lay charges.
Guy.. singular.
Agree 100%. The guys in frocks at Albert Park showed the world their fear of freedom of speech, so this degrading response isn’t really that big a surprise.
Dirty old men.
Seeking publicity,Nathan,which may well backfire.
Bob the first – Reckon…
More votes for Winston to Mop up at these meetings. He will be charging over 5%at this rate
it could be viewed as bravery nate ‘lions den’ and all that
gagarin – Good point – did not think of the “lion’s den” aspect of the protest.
We already have co governance Shona National did a deal with Tainui when Key sold the hydros with water. The water that nobody owns but China is bottling and selling it back to us. Geez we are mugs literally giving away one of our most precious assets.
Don’t buy it then.
Hehehe! Crazy attracts Crazies.
Pagans of the new age kinda shit. It kinda tells you what kind of fucked up society we are living in.
Can’t wait for the boiling cauldron fire test to be a prerequisite for entry. If you survive and don’t die, you’re pure and devoid of evil!
Your so right. Crazies inside crazies outside.
Everyone else doesn’t give a shit.
Sums it up T but I have to say I am kind of loving all the argy bargy at the mo! Looking for that Grand Coalition.
The woke warriors are pussies. They are real tough going up against women and pensioners.
Would love to see them up against the Red Squad like we were.
Dragged out by your feet. pffft. try being batoned, kicked, punched and stomped.
well these weren’t antifa where they jack just a bunch of lame brained rightard hicks
cf. Voltaire
Whay people don’t realize is that if we continue to push politics to the far left, ultimately the pendulum will go all the way far right and that my friends is facissim, remember Hitler! that’s far right politics and you don’t want that again, but keep pushing left and see what happens.
The far far left is indeed facsist.
as is the right as this incident proves jack, brownshirts policing nazi meetings, it’s similar all they need is the spiffy uniforms
I am enjoying NZ’s descent into a violent shithole
There should be the right to protest and publicly speak without having protesters drown out with whistles, attacked with liquids, punching out listeners, and so forth.
The police need to immediately remove counter protesters who stop the right of someone else to speak and try to derail free speech.
Counter protesters are trying to drown out a group speaking in NZ with whistles – the police should be quick to remove disruptive people so that the free speech can happen, even if they don’t agree with the speakers. It should not be the listeners who have to try and remove those disrupting events.
When political figures speak, whether council or central government as soon as a protestor tries to disrupt the police act to remove the protester. Why are police not doing this with other speakers in NZ – and expecting them to get private security etc – especially when the woke media and certain members of government are the ones inciting the violence against the people who don’t agree with them.
It should be a basic human right to speak or go and safely listen to a public speaker in NZ without aggressive and disruptive protestors who seek stop the event.
Agree
As Pat from Big Hairy News put it: If you were someone who claimed the tomato juicing of Posie Parker was an assault but don’t have the same standard for this, then your hypocrisy has disqualified you from public discourse
As Pat from Big Hairy News put it: If you were someone who claimed the tomato juicing of Posie Parker was an assault but don’t have the same standard for this, then your hypocrisy has disqualified you from public discourse
As Pat from Big Hairy News put it: If you were someone who claimed the tomato juicing of Posie Parker was an assault but don’t have the same standard for this, then your hypocrisy has disqualified you from public discourse
As Pat from Big Hairy News put it: If you were someone who claimed the tomato juicing of Posie Parker was an assault but don’t have the same standard for this, then your hypocrisy has disqualified you from public discourse
No I agree both are disgraceful behaviour.
But it wasnt just tomato jicing was it!
From what I know and of this incident, police were outside the meeting and to me if Victoria Jakobson was being a nuisance (and personally I don’t believe she was), then they should have been called to deal with the situation. But no it was a mob of feral misogynist males getting their jollies manhandling a defenceless woman, with one somewhere at the meeting, calling for her pants to be removed. Sickening!. It gives us an insight into the vile characters of the people supporting the likes of Julian Batchelor and his anti co-governance policies!
I hope Victoria presses charges against those involved in her assault.
If bouncers can remove disruptive patrons, is it really an assault to remove someone?
The pants thing is different, but again did anyone remove her pants or did someone yell it. Maybe the police should actually be inside to find out?
It sounds like she was removed in a similar way a bouncer would eject someone disrupting an event – hard to see how this is now an assault by the woke, as she was clearly being wilfully disruptive at an event someone had organised and presumably paid for the hall and all!
The protester could have listened and then asked questions against what they said, and behaved appropriately in a public meeting, not whistling like a self absorbed, self righteous idiot so nobody can hear anything which seems to be the woke way. Aka nobody else is allowed to say anything they don’t agree with, but they also can’t be bothered even listening to the other point of view.
Woke might actually learn something about consultation if they bothered to listen to who they disagree with, respectfully! They want respect but can’t be bothered to respect anybody else. Tired of it!
In my twenties I used to work as a Doorman, and I have never had to grab someone by their hair. Ninety percent of the time, talking to them was enough to get someone to leave. You know, now that I think on it, never had to drag someone by their feet either. Its so much easier to use a wrist lock to gently guide someone outside.
So in summation, it was nothing like what a “bouncer” would do in a similar situation, and if a Doorman, (the correct working title of the occupation), did this to a belligerent customer, they would most likely be stood down to be interviewed by police to see whether or not their actions were justified. Or whether they should be charged with assault.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Maori were here first and were well settled in long before the Dutch and the Poms skidded up a beach and said ” You can fuck off now because this is all mine.”
I think Maori have been hugely forgiving and understanding of how we just walked right in and took shit over.
I personally think we non Maori haven’t got a leg to stand on when it comes to the moral arguments of sovereignty. Maori do it’s that simple, get over it. Show some fucking respect.
My greater concern is at the timing of such a debate. The planet’s on fire and someone’s come up with the idea to stir shit up in AO/NZ. Why? Not to divide to concur surely?
If we must rely on farmers to show compassion, respect and understanding we’d be better off negotiating with their sheep. Farmers are being ripped off by their very own right in front of their big meaty noses and they still blame brave, vocal minorities who prefer to wear their trousers up.
I think Shona still has the sand between her toes.
disgusting. I have absolute contempt for this
If she just sat on the ground with her sign she would have been fine…but halfwits who disrupt any meetings blowing whistles need a swift kick up the arse. It’s fine to protest, but being polite and respectful has obviously gone by the wayside….we all have our point of view , and there will always be disagreements , but she didn’t get punched and her cheek bone broken like the poor elderly lady at the trans love fest…
no polite protest was ever effective…that’s ‘why can’t the teachers go on strike during the hols’ level horseshit
I laughed but it was also weirdly disturbing from a lack of personal development in life.
That comment when I heard it “Pull her pants down”.
I reminded me of that teenager at the party – “show us your growler”.
Or the summer holiday kid “show us your tits”.
They are always that same kid and then that same adult.
Some people never grow up – good or bad – sometimes not sure but this was distasteful and nearly creepy.
Perhaps if you didn’t mouth racist KKK rhetoric, you wouldnt get a whistle blown in your face.
Clear that a lot of people on here think Maori have too much rights and need to be dealt to.
Your just going to have to get used to hearing opinions that you don’t agree with and not get apoplectic.
That is democratic free speech and it has not been made illegal yet.
Where the rubber hits the road is the ballot box and the extremists on both sides and I include those inside the anti co governance meetings and outside blowing their whistles are doing themselves no favours when it comes time for people to actually take a side when it actually matters.
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