MEDIAWATCH: Q+A Review: Luxon latest crash and burn interview – where’s Thomas Coughlan’s train wreck column?

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Oh come on man, you can't be this stupid

When Willie Jackson was on Q+A, Thomas Coughlan from the NZ Herald howled it was a ‘Train wreck’, well if Willie’s well received interview was a ‘Train wreck’ then Luxon on Q+A this morning was a school bus crashing into a kindergarten and exploding into a petting zoo!

Luxon is still very shaky in these interviews and that bodes poorly for the campaign. He had no comeback to Jack’s laser precision questions challenging National’s climate polices and allowing real estate pimps to profit if National wins.

He looked uncomfortable on getting push back and his stumbling perforce on why we should trust him on capital gains taxes when he stands as a person who owns 7 properties to personally benefit from them that policy so immensely.

Luxon has to be way  better than this if he hopes to win and the election is just in 4 months.

With the election so close, the traditional Political Debates between the Labour and National Leaders will matter more than ever and it’s worth exploring how we think these debates will play out.

With the don’t know at 15% of the electorate, there is everything to fight for in these debates.

Luxon has the most to win and Chippy has the most to lose and they should be in debate prep now, but my guess is neither Party have their Election Policies realised yet limiting their debate training potential.

 

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In the Blue Corner:

Luxon seems to agree to anything anyone asks him which requires him doing a u-turn 24 hours later. This is sold as ‘endearing’ because he’s ‘not a politician’. To everyone else it looks confused and incompetent and you fret a bit that he was running Air NZ while you were flying on it once.

But because the bar is so low for Luxon, if he actually dazzles during the debates, it could be the winner of the election. There have been times when he has actually sounded passionate and invested in NZ progressing, unfortunately he’s only ever sounded that way  when he wants to cut benefits from disabled teenagers on welfare, military boot camps for kids and putting ankle bracelets on 10 year olds.

Chris seems to take ‘spare the rod, spoil the child’ literally.

But if he can surprise NZ with a passionate moment, he can turn a moment into a defining election event.

So, Luxon is fighting for his political career, because he is goneburger if he doesn’t beat Labour this year. National tolerate many things, a rigged capitalism for their mates, obscene profits for Banks, sexual attraction towards Landlords and a fetish for punishment, but they WILL NOT tolerate losers.

 

In the Red Corner:

Cut beyond the Chippy from the Hutt routine and look at Chris Hipkins for the cold hearted political killer that he is.

Over the years of watching him and talking to him I think there are 3 sides to Chippy.

There is the behind the scenes interaction and management style with his staff and colleagues that is actually almost magical. He is incredibly kind and deferential to all his colleagues and is a leader who draws out the best from his people and empowers them to step up and perform rather than push and dictate to. Expect a phenomenal loyalty to him from the Caucus and a very tight ship.

Then there is the Chippy who loves sausage rolls, Chippy from the Hutt, spread your legs, sausage roll loving, dorky competence, affable and lover of sausage rolls Chris Hipkins who you trust with your best interests at heart.

And then there is the Political Assassin Chris Hipkins who is the person the Party gets to go out and do political knee-capping. He has been the wielder of Labour’s sword many times because beyond the publicly affable and privately differential, Chris is a hard hitting pocket battleship.

The difference between Chippy and Jacinda, is Chippy will throw a punch.

 

Who will win?:

Luxon has a chance, and in an election this close, it could be the magical moment that propels National into the lead.

So you can’t rule it out and that’s what makes the Debates so fascinating.

However.

Chris Hipkins is a high ranking Left Wing Jedi Knight. He’s Luke Skywalker, Harry Potter and a fully automatic machine gun all rolled into one. He will eviscerate Luxon with a level of detail that sounds spookily like Helen Clarke with the knockout wit power of David Lange while authentically connecting to the middle emotionally like Jacinda.

Chippy ain’t no chump and if National walk into this trying to debate Chris Hipkins, they will lose. Luxon’s only chance is to talk to the audience and connect with them emotionally NOT debate with Hipkins because he will get whipped.

Our greatest NZ public broadcasting journalist is Barbara Dreaver, and she has FINALLY been allowed to do the journalism she was born to do and explain the geopolitical tensions in the Pacific by debating American interests in the Pacific.

This issue is going to dominate us like no other. Usually foreign affairs mean little to NZ domestic politics because we are on the edge of the world far away from anyone and anything, but the growing tensions between America and China are coming to our shores whether we like it or not.

If China was sailing warships off the Coast of America, the US would open fire!

China sees America’s encroachment in their sphere of influence as provocation and we are increasingly seeing these friction encounters between American patrolling military and Chinese forces.

NZ does not want to get dragged into a war between America and China and if we are serious about an Independent Foreign Policy, we have to accept Neutrality is going to cost us a lot more.

The Māori Party suggestion of neutrality is worth considering.

I believe that the climate crisis means we need a vastly larger military to cope with civil disasters and if we are attempting to distance ourselves from China and America, we need to make a decision to dramatically lift what we spend on the military for purely defensive and civil disaster capacity.

How would we go about defending the realm of NZ and all our economic exclusive zone?

We can’t pull away from America and China and pretend there is no cost to being Independent.

We need to increase Military GDP spending to 5%. Interestingly Labour have quietly ratcheted GDP military spending from just over 1% to just under 2%.

 

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  1. Your Luxon story is interesting. But what exactly is the context.
    Or is it just a dog barking at a shadow?
    I guess I will have to do my own research.

    You are like a bloody professor responding to a student asking a question. Always leaving the student with more questions and no answers.

    • Jack once again tried to be the news.

      At least now we all know that Luxon owns 7 properties. That Jack Tame is looking for advice on property investment and though Luxon is an investment adviser. We now also know that one can supplement your income by selling investment properties.

      Who would have known. Thanks Jack.

    • “I guess I will have to do my own research.”
      Make sure you have it peer reviewed. Maybe on a site like Quora, or whatever other soshul media bubbles you inhabit.
      And don’t forget to let us know the outcome of your infinite wisdom and opinion in this age of virtual truth. I need a laugh while I do my own research (It’s becoming a wee bit tedious)

  2. I agree with TPM notion of neutrality. The price that comes with that as Martyn asserts is a greater GDP spend on the military and the introduction of compulsory military service.

    • Listen to the Jack Tame/Renwick interview.
      Prof Renwick may be a little too controversial for your consumption.

    • Climate change is a catch phrase in which I don’t think is exactly correct. We can look back at the last 70 years and say that the next 70 years will be different. For example.

      In the 1950’s the birth rate was about 4 and we urged woman to have 2 babies. Woman actually didn’t need urging what we needed to “do” (double emphases on “doing”) is educate woman and get them into work. Woman don’t want to many pregnancies because they lose income and promotions
      during pregnancy. So that solved “a” problem.

      Climate mitigation is not a straight line towards zero carbon by 2050 by simply reducing carbon. As I said the first thing I said was we educated the woman which solved the fertility rate and now a new problem arises where we have to increase immigration to keep up the vitality of New Zealand for something unforeseen 70 years ago is just completely unpredictable. No one predicted that our woman once educated would not want to have many children. There fore climate change is a catch phrase that logically will not follow through.

      Secondly New Zealand is not responsible for the world. Global warming and massive population rise, urbaning Africa, modernising India and China, rising immisions are totally out of New Zealands control. But we can see the impacts on New Zealand as the degeneracy takes hold on our living environment. We can not put 9 billion humans on this planet and expect immisions reductions.

      Thirdly modernisation programs require young and vibrant thinkers and doers. We have a ready stream of climate refugees and young Kiwis saddled with rising debts who know exactly what the problems are. What they lack is the political wieght of population.

      But as I say some countries like New Zealand can keep climate refugees out of over populated areas and New Zealand is one of those underpopulated areas. New Zealand is a population of 5 million. It produces enough food to feed 40 million and with enough advancements in technology we could double that capacity.

      New Zealand is a population of 5 million who needs a population of 20 million to sustain an agricultural modernisation program equal to Australias build programs, increasing immigration and education of woman reducing the birth rate globally and reducing New Zealands immisions profile to zero by 2050. While maintaining a population no higher than 25 million. What contains Australia’s population broadly speaking is availability of water and what contains New Zealand’s Population is land. New Zealand isn’t trying to have a population of 40 million we are trying to feed 40 million.

      Convincing woman to have less babies isn’t difficult for a nation like New Zealand and niether will it be difficult to incourage climate refugees to migrate to New Zealand. The difficult bit is convincing The National and ACT Party that poor people are not a spending problem. They are the solution.

      I’m talking about democratising energy by putting solar on every roof.

      I’m talking about the democratization of food. Otara Flea Markets everywhere. Which is industrialised access to produce straight from the fields and sea beds to market.

      Doubling energy. Double education funding. Double health funding. Double infrastructure funding. 40% increase in all welfare rates tied to inflation. With one back to work benifit. And concessions for those below 80 IQ individuals that the private sector can not educate and has no use for.

      A nutrality pact. 5% GDP on defence spending. Immigration controlls. Resource protection. State controlled science regimes.

      All rammed through in the first hundred days of a the post 2023 election.

      That’s atleast the scoop, thats the scale. That’s the pace of change that needs to take place for net Zero reduction by 2050. 1.5 degrees is no longer the target keeping it below 2 is the new target.

      Once the average global temperature targets goes over 2 degrees then it’s basically full totalitarian, full militarisation just before we go full Mad Max. But that’s not the goal. The goal is organising human life.

      I know I go on about woman and trans people a lot it’s because no woman in all of history has ever taken care of a man till he dies. A man on the other hand will take care of a woman right up untill his heart literally explodes.

      New Zealand woman live in one of the safest and caring communities available on this planet so let’s not get it confused to what a straight line to net Zero carbon actually is. It’s peace. It’s harmony.

      Look when I see catch phrases like Climate change I tend to see stories from The Book Genises and Revelations all mixed and it’s like what is happening here. Of course the Bible exaggerates the female and male figures. In my version we are more like ornaments. But one of the things going on is western woman see themselves as the most beautiful. But when beauty is weaponised it starts to become The Madonna and I’m talking about beautifying New Zealand and use it to attract attention in certain ways.

  3. The interview style of the Jack Tame and Kim Hill is the same. Have a monologue where a question or idea of a question is presented in three or four different idoms. They are complete incapable of asking a single question that can be answered by anyone simply. Each dialog (diatribe) contains possible three or four questions.

    Once the interviewee does gets access to the talking stick, after a five minute ear bashing, the first thing the likes of Tame and Hill ilk do, is interrupt to break up the answering dialog and start a dialog for the next set of questions. Make the interviewee look like they are stumbling simply because they are not given time and space to answer the dialog that contains three or four further questions.

    Now Luxon is no good at that format of questioning. Not many people are but the interviewer is not doing the public a service unless it is deliberately to make the interviewee look bumbling and the interviewer the ego stroked hero.

    I would like to see the interviewee ask for the talking stick to hold and be able to answer a barrage of questions in a civilised and listened to manner.

    Tame and Hill are not the interviewers the public should listen to, they like the sound of their own voice and simply will not let anyone speak to the topics they (the interviewer) raises.

    • He was much better when he interviewed prof Renwick.
      He even controlled his natural impulse when Renwick explained that we will not be able to stay below 1.5 warming but that it will not be a train smash if we go above 2 degrees.

      But in the interview with Luxon Jack Tame reverted back to …….look at me, look at me…..

    • Tame and Hill ask pertinent questions in setting a narrative. That the interviewee goes off on a completely different tangent and doesn’t answer the question means they have to ask it again and again and again. Luxon is a lightweight, he was on TV bitching and whinging about how NZ is “becoming” a country of bitchers and whingers – lol . It’s people like Luxon who are doing all the bitching and whinging because they can’t see the problem. That is because they are the problem.

    • Was a labour MP interviewed this morning? You do realise that labour having idiots doesn’t stop Luxon being an idiot?

        • Your attacks on Martyn is making it personal.

          You don’t cross bloggers you read about it.

          Honestly your comments are not clever they’re retarded.

          What’s more funny is you’re going to go back to your coffin box tonight all alone.

          You’re like those people who don’t shave there own vagina because you’ve got that problem.

          Your comments just look like an abortion that made it.

  4. As an add on to my previous comment about interviewers, I must add that politicians do themselves no great favours by not answering question in a succinct and honest manner. Waffle, waffle, waffle. No wonder interviewers have the need to interrupt. Maybe the lesson is that interviewers need to steer to conversation to get to the point rather than blabber on themselves to lecture the politician.

    Both are terrible at getting messages across. The communications departments for each are only about taking up space (time) and incessant mindless chatter.

    • Do you own 7 properties?
      Great question…. Yeah right.
      Now we all know that Luxon owns 7 properties. Thanks to Jack Tame.

      And:
      that if one sells a property for more than the purchase price you have made a capital gain. Thanks Jack, who knew..?
      That investing in a property could turn out to be a good investment. Thanks Jack, who knew?

      • So the next question should have been: “Do you think it is a conflict of interests, if you are going to pass laws on renters, or selling of property?”.

      • well – if Luxon wasn’t such a twat he would have had an answer when Tame asked him “is this the sort of productivity you mean when you say you’re wanting to lift NZ productivity – by incentivising investment in non-productive assets?” but nope – nothing – just inane comments about how he is doing things within the law and how he doesn’t manage the day to day finance of his assets. what a plonker.

  5. You’re forgetting that climate change policies are luxuries of wealthy countries. 5 years of labour has put a dent in that theory. Ok you can afford it if you’re a green MP or a wellington bureaucrate, but normal people can’t.

    People are more worried about paycheck to paycheck, crime and racial division than giving money to the elites so they can tell us to have less showers are start eating insects.

    Btw Everything Hipkins (the chippy name you keep using is supposed to be endearing, it’s not) has touched has turned to custard. Police, Health, Miq…

    • The likes of Fonterra or wealthy dairy farmers are not paying a cent. It is simply garbage to say they can’t afford to do anything about their omissions and pollution. The primary sector have admitted as much. It won’t be long before those “wealthy countries” tell us to stuff as we are not doing anything.

    • Want useless arguments about gun registries, like that’s a pressing issue for the country, or blatant race baiting vote ACT Only ACT could turn crown settlements for land theft into an issue by saying it’s racist to attempt to put a wrong, right.

        • Nothing wrong with my guns mate – I don’t have them buried out the back. All locked away where they should be and happy to provide evidence of their legitimacy and identity for any centralized register. Anyone who needs to play rambo with an SLR is the sort of person who shouldn’t have one IMO.

          • Anyone who wants a car capable of doing over 120km/h, should be denied a drivers licence? Most people how lost firearms had legitimate sporting/hunting/recreational reasons to own them, not playing Rambo.

  6. Pocket battleship Hipkins! The biggest danger to “Graf Spee” Hipkins is that his ship of state may be scuttled by its own crew.

    • What are you on about Hipkins runs a tighter ship than Helen Clark. You sound like Karen’s uncle.

      • s://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/person-hospitalised-after-being-shot-in-south-auckland/ar-AA1cpuU2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6f7868bbb4b642178bedf4e35617012b&ei=12

        He wasn’t hit by a verbal assault, it was a gun! Vote ACT pro killers.

      • Want to prevent incidents like the mosque attacks? Remove the NZ Police from administering firearms licencing.

        • Ok NC, let’s contract out the gun register to a private company, that way every one will be happy.

          • They most likely have, because the Police haven’t get the capability to set one up. The registry will solve no crimes & make no one safer, it just wastes money. However the registry has nothing to do with the issuing of licences and that’s where the failures that gave Tarrant his licence, weapons & ammo occurred.

  7. Nah, no political panel for Q&A. That would spoil it… they’re usually just a trio of egos trying to out-do one another.
    Stick with Jack and Barbara et Al. They’re a class act who take no prisoners.

  8. I would say that Luxon will collapse in a heap during the debates. He doesn’t possess the intellect to answer questions especially indepth questions? He lacks the mental ability to answer anything outside of his limited realm of thinking.

    He is elusive with being truthful and from observation regularly resorts to pre-rehearsed statements that have become almost like a Mantra for him. He will not answer a question but instead will twist his ‘answer’ to a question into a blame this government tirade that is pre-rehearsed.

    In other words Luxon and probably so many other National Party MPs and their supporters beat the well Outdated NZ National Party Blame-Game Drum Mantra Drum because it has become an almost Brainwashing Response by them. When say Luxon cannot answer a question he, like so many others in National, will resort to blaming someone else. To me this highlights their inability to think intelligently or with any cognitive ability.

    So methinks Luxon will pretty soon have a melt-down when someone like Jack(or is it Jake as Luxon called him during the interview)Tame asks a tricky question. Fortunately for Luxon he has those biased towards National Lackeys like Jenny May, Matty and ABF to be all giggly and chummy to him as like Luxon they do not possess the intellectual abilities to ask intelligent indepth questions to someone like Luxon.

    Mind you watch this space. Luxon might pull something out of the ever-diminishing bag only to Flip-Flop on it 24 hours later.

    • Talking about the blame game after 5 years in power all Labour ministers do is still blame National for the issues that are not being fixed .When will they take onpwnership of their muck ups in health ,education, housing , crime , prisons ,poverty ,immegration to name a few

    • Pretty much Jake Tame acting like Harry and Meghan.
      Do not look at me, do not look at me…
      Jack you can do better. You proved that when you interviewed prof Renwick on climate change.

      Now we know that the prof does not believe that we will destroy the world if we miss the 1.5 degree target. 2 degrees’ish is warm but also cool….

      We also know that Luxon owns 7 properties. Who would have guessed. Thanks Jack, now we know.

      We also found out that National has ideas to grow the economy, will not interfere with women’s rights to contraceptives, maintain abortion rights, has ideas how to manage climate change, has ideas about taxation, bioengineering, bio security…… reminded us that a Luxon may choose to sell or buy more properties, that Luxon owns seven properties – thanks Jack – and that property investment is a non productive economic activity – yeah, right Jack. Thanks for the lesson in economics, Jack.

      • I am always amazed how those against Luxon harp on about his 7 investment properties and say he can use his position to make these properties worth more .He gave up a job paying $ 4 million to take this current role .If he needs more money he could have just stayed with ANZ .

        • That’s just the point, he doesn’t need any more money no matter what he does, he’s loaded. Given what has occurred in the past I’d suggest he’s doing it for a knighthood.

      • Well he’s not actually wrong on property. Did Jack ask Luxon if he felt like a complete f’ing hypocrite for banging on about Wood? He should have. It sounds Jack let Luxon get lots of points across so what’s your problem?

        You seem to make it about the messenger/interviewer . Like the Harry comment. Has he made money because of who he is? Sure. That does not mean the tabloids are anything short of guilty as sin, and the royal family and their circle of hangers on anything short of incestuous fruit cakes.

  9. Luxon was going red all over his face and his baldhead when Jack Tame broached the question to Luxon of owning 4 properties 2 of them property investment that are not productive then reminded Luxon of the rhetoric statement he’s been making about creating more productivity for economy.

    • Exactly – where’s Luxon’s productivity lift coming from when all people are investing in, is real estate – what an effing plonker.

  10. Green Washn is a scam. NZ needs to borrow Harry Potter Cloak of Invisibility and the mentally challenged gween party have a fixation with poles in this election. Why?

  11. The impotence of Hipkins’ response to Wood this year throws shade on the argument of a political Jedi Knight – more like a Mall cop in the US.

    Yes this election is going to be a cripple fight…….

  12. Two climate cucks going at it.

    As for GE, it’s known to produce larger yields that are less nutritional.

    Leave the poor plants alone – cross breed YES, GE.. Hard PASS!

    I was considering giving my electoral vote to National here in Christchurch, to stop Labour coming through the middle..

    ..now it’s 2 Ticks ACT, or 1 Tick NZF and 1 Tick ACT.

    National are totally unacceptable.

    • There are two options for you. Vote labour and green for prosperity and action.
      They are the only ones that are prepared to continue with the policies that have worked so well for us over the last five years.

      • Sorry Johan do you not mean poverty and inaction. Have just heard the Green tax policy if they get in just watch the people lining up to quit this country.

        • I’ve heard people will return in their droves if Greens get to implement common sense tax improvements. Who cares if we lose the odd right winger and I mean odd.

  13. This from Luxon. National getting in would eviscerate us and knock down any defences we have held, give away our resources, strip us of everything in a last crazy fire sale. Their pragmatic approach would be that we will probably burn anyway like Canada, so sell it off before it gets destroyed by climate or vandalism.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/491773/national-would-end-genetic-modification-ban-if-elected – NZ stuck in ‘time warp’ – RNZ heading
    “Our laws have really been in a time warp from 1996 to 2003,” he said.
    “There’s been huge advances, very exciting advances in the technology – and actually what we need to do is end the effective ban on genetic technologies as we’ve been talking about, but also make sure that we’ve got good safeguards in place.”
    The current legislation – last amended 20 years ago – permitted genetic research in laboratories, but field trials outside the lab need approval.

  14. For what it’s worth, I support lifting the ban on GM, provided strict regulations are in place. We are being left behind by other nations in this field, and if we are to have a more environmentally friendly agriculture sector, we are going to have to embrace it.

    • Yeah – but who’s GMO’s Millsy – Luxons mates at Unilever or Monsanto? – look at how the roundup ready crops debacle has played out in the US – complete and utter bullshit, debasement and corruption via monopolistic and oligarchic business practices.

    • @millsy FGS talk about Loosehead Len. GMOs are dangerous toys for venturesome girls and boys. And that is the level of maturity that applies to the keen blinkered scientist and onlooker.

      One I admire had a wonderful obituary – Paul Crutzen. A scientist using the discipline to prevent disaster.
      https://www.mpic.de/4677594/trauer-um-paul-crutzen (Max Planck Institute)

      and in 1974, the now famous paper by Sherwood Rowland and Mario Molina warned that chlorine released from chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) could destroy ozone in the stratosphere. https://public.wmo.int/en/bulletin/ozone-layer-mend-0

  15. Closing my eyes and listening to the voice it could be John Key talking. Same platitudes , evading the question , completely misguided describing enhancing NZ as clean and green and now over G.M.O is prepared to listen to the scientists because it suits his position but National has long disputed scientists warning about the climate.

    I was waiting for Key’s ” ambitious… for rich New Zealanders ” and the infamous ” step change ” to explain privatising state assets and after saying they wouldn’t raise taxes increase GST kinda step change or ” working hard ” for New Zealanders so I will settle for Luxon’s ” huge upside ” for NZ.

  16. Luxon needs to work on his body language he looked like he was seething not a good look for a wannabe PM.

  17. wHAT, IM! not conflicted,, im not intending to sell my four investment houses in New Zealand!. Conflicted n, im not, What a complete train wreck coming to the nat!s party ball.

  18. Jack better watch it…. The skids will be under him… dirty politics….we have the power + the money!

  19. I saw this headline and missed the interview. I watched it yesterday. Jack was a bit of an idiot and clearly wanted to trap Luxon. Let’s be honest, Luxon did miss a few opportunities here but I didn’t think he was as bad as what the headline etc. said.
    A story with an agenda which Martyn will continue to belt out in this odd fear of the govt changing.
    I hate nation comparing but to put a little light on something, if the National Party were in the US they would be seen as lefty woke – a little toned down prospective perhaps.
    I like the passion though Martyn.

  20. Or, as his wife!s Lexus, garnerd Labour!s tax largesse for electric care ride, the train wreck, continues now like, im not negative, and my personal finances IM! not prepared to discuss, he! WANABBEE, YOU WILL HAVE TO.

  21. This morning, fool or egit, he blaiming the present government with negativity, about our land, yet he and his cronnies cannot control his blinded thought of bottom feeders and breeders. What a engine driver your train.

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