ACT Party conference – imagine if the Woke hadn’t started a culture war the Left couldn’t win?


Act to continue mission to double its vote in 2023 election at annual conference

Act reached 7.6 per cent in 2020. Seymour believes that can be doubled this year.

The Herald’s poll of polls shows Act consistently polling at or above 10 per cent, which contributed to Seymour’s optimism ahead of October 14.

“For most of Act’s history, to be double-digit is a dream.

“We will field a candidate in every single electorate for the first time, probably in over 20 years, I would guess.

As TDB has spent 3 years warning that ACT’s double digit support represent a dangerous polarisation of NZ politics.

I warned the woke activists that if they started a Free Speech Culture War they would accidentally trigger the dormant faultline of ACT and lo and fucking behold, that’s exactly what happened!

The moment the woke started their free speech cancel culture, ACT started rising in the polls to the point they are now the third largest party.

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The Greens are barely able to reach what the gained in the last election where as ACT are looking to double their 2020 result.

Well done Woke.

Let me be as clear as I can be to my fellow comrades of the Left, if we allow woke activists and woke politicians to drag us into a culture war, we on the left will lose the election!

Here’s why.

Social media proxification – hell is other people’s social media feed – Sartre

Social media algorithms have allowed for a toxicity of debate that is easily manipulated. A symphony of sweaty truths all screaming for attention and no one listening. Woke Identity Politics activists have seized the joy of having no gatekeepers to express how much they hate white men while alt right Incel Nazi’s have seized upon the joy of having no gatekeepers to express how much they hate everyone else.

Millennial woke culture sees macro violence coming from micro aggressions and piously police those micro aggressions with virtue signalling purity mantras.

Alt Right Incel Nazis see white persecution and create some bullshit replacement narrative to justify their powerlessness and feed that resentment online.

Most people are on social media and most people have a woke activist or Qanon fanatic in their social media feed screaming their feverish truths. While these activists certainly think they are speaking truth to power by endlessly calling people out for breaches of woke mantra or fake news anti Trump lies, to everyone else they are simply toxic.

People stop seeing the political party and only see the activist and in the end proxification means the activist becomes the proxy representation of the Party, and seeing as people have negative feelings towards the proxy, they turn from the Party.

Voters aren’t voting on policy, they are voting on who made them feel resentful on social media!

The political is the personal now means what hurts me personally becomes political.

Before social media activists could only face each other off at protests or through letters to the editor or talkback radio. There were constraints of interaction but with social media there are none and it turns out the freedom to insult and dehumanise others is more addictive than nicotine, alcohol and meth combined.

Wokeness has become a puritanical religion with none of the beauty – it’s not so much the personal virtue signal, we are all dicks at times, it’s the weaponization by algorithms that make it so dangerous and damaging.

The danger of identity politics is that it locks people intellectually into only defining the world through their skin colour, genitalia or sexual orientation – it also becomes toxically subjective and tribal where the only solidarity is with other people who share the skin colour or genitalia or sexual orientation- without shared truths and values, the 1% and their 9% enablers continue to divide the rest of us 90%.

The Left has lurched into woke ‘Social Justice’ territory which alienates more than it attracts.

Twitter outrage is woke righteousness porn for the middle classes. A puritanical razoring where the self elected morality police publicly shame and cancel anyone for not using the language protocols of the conclave.

Media proxification is leading to a fascist kaleidoscope of climate crisis entropy triggered by Covid, woke supremacy & ok Karen QAnon echo chambers.

This is why ACT are polling in double digits!

The woke activists have driven people who should be voting Left into the arms of the hard Right!

I’m really excited to see how the woke manage to get ACT to 17% on Election night.

Comrades – Your enemy isn’t a woman who says stupid shit about Trans people in a public park, your enemy are the Banks, Oil Companies, Billionaires and Property Speculators who continue to pillage this country while we are bickering over the narcissism of petty difference!

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    • So? It’s not there fault we weren’t able to accommodate them. I can’t believe a party founded on the principles of financialisation, privatisation and deregulation could find so much support for radical economic and democratic change these fucking feminists and trans activists have been bullshiting this entire time lying to generations claiming that a job will make you happier than children, and a partner. Or that cutting your own dick off will magically make the world happier it’s sick twisted and perverted.

      • Equality as an outcome is never-never land stuff.

        We need better outcomes for all those living in NZ. And we should support other societies to achieve similar outcomes.

        Political parties that can create outcomes that benefit all NZers deserve support.
        Unfortunately policies can only ever benefit people on a continuum.

        • Equality of outcome mean that everyone has a job, and everyone has a roof over their head, and there no no homelessness and no one goes without.Unless of course, you think thati is OK for people to not have access to healthcare or housing,.

          • Targeted care is expensive but affordable. So please do not paint me with that brush.

            And no, equality of outcome does not mean what you claim. Some choose not to have a job. Some are unable to work. But you know that.

    • Castro “Many aren’t even citizens”, true, too true, even a disturbing unfair sell-out for bona fide tax paying Kiwis, but not as blatantly racist as the National Party which offers two Indians for the price of one Chinese.

  1. Don’t underestimate a woke, gender ideology, identity politics backlash at the ballot box by disgruntled voters from across the political spectrum and demographics.
    This has the potential to propel ACT to 20% on election night.

    • Then New Zealands will pay dearly as they lose worker protections and access to healthcare services. Not to mention the right to retire at 65.

      • Super is an entitlement.
        There is a subtle but important difference.

        The government may decide that you only become eligible for super after living continuously in the country for a period of 20 years.

  2. Why aren’t the Alliance Party running this election?

    The field is basically open. There is no Trumpian candidate (yet), nor a Corbynite/Kennedy/Bernie-type one. The competition is just a pile of unpopular Culture Wars garbage.

    Most of the ex-Alliance M.P.’s did not defect to another party. All they need is an endorsement from one prominent public figure, and the press barons would soon be forced into covering them.

  3. Voters aren’t voting on policy??? Oh I think the Act voters are! Because has a lot of sensible policy. Sure, some a bit radical like any party (Labour ministry of truth). But much of what they propose is pretty useful.

    • Yes no comment at $60 a head, not many bottom feeders there, not a tricky question in sight and more money for their already rich coffers, if that doesn’t tell you the truth about ACT nothing will.

  4. The more time I spend here, the further to the Right I move. The Left are their own worst enemies.

    • No comment you know where the leave button is don’t you ? . Don’t let us keep you, sorry but you won’t be missed.

        • Thank you No comment I don’t need anyone to keep me honest let alone a right wing zealot. Contrary to popular belief left leaning people are people too. Maybe once in a while have a look in the mirror yourself

      • Kraut. Hence the attraction of an experienced normal sort of person like Winston Peters who is also a politically correct colour, intelligent,and educated.
        He’s just a man, but thanks to the loopy Greens, that can be changed in a sentence or two, and Chipster, Marama, Chloe, the Spin-off and the NZ Herald have another celebration of pure trans joy.

    • We can only hope that is the result in Oct . The country cannot stand another 3 years of the rule by consultants and next time it could be worst if Greens and TPM are at the table

      • Well Trev. Who is going to run the ministry of red tape, its going to take a lot of red tape to cut the red tape in the ministry of red tape

  5. Those polling figures Don’t count the thousands who are to scared to turn up to ACT meetings or like the FB page, for fear of being cancelled or ridiculed by the woke. So they could well go above 16% on the night.

  6. ACT want to slash wages, and impose US style healthcare. They dont want people have jobs, or houses. They see the poor and sick as drains on the economy. Their supporters attack Trudeau’s government for open assited dying up to the poor, homeless and disabled, but they would love for something like that to be imposed here.

    • Do they also sacrifice children at winter solstice, and burn the poor, homeless and disabled as firewood in winter? Just curious.

  7. act have demonstrated how archaic and previously failed policies they tout are nate…no new ideas since the 80s….the 1880s that is.

  8. ACT won’t be in full control of the country but, if ACT can get a decent result at the election they can perhaps temper the worst of the left. There are too many unfettered left-wing voices in power right now who can’t see outside of their echo-chamber.

    This is made worse by a compliant and bought MSM failing to hold them to account on the worst of their divisive ideas.

    I lean left yet without a strong conservative opponent they drift into loony-left which is what we are seeing now.

    • What “left-wing” voices are “in power”? The social-liberal parties are all Clintonite globalists, who would never to dare upset Wall Street. The social democrats are all gone.

      On most of the major issues, a moderate conservative like Muldoon is to the left of everybody in Parliament.

  9. All we have to remember is that ACT is roger douglas and vile ruth richardson and ruth and roger are neo-liberalism and neo-liberalism has given us 14 multi-billionaires and starving kids living in cars or under bridges with their mums and dads. The billionaires, whose wealth was derived from the sell-off’s of our taxes paid for infrastructures, and now that our infrastructure’s been sold they’re outa here with the cash.
    ACT, and National, which are the same thing in literal fact, originally hatched from within the money pit that was agriculture and now, our once was organic and sustainable agrarian infrastructure has been sabotaged by greed all we have left to earn our economy is thousands of chemical laden, shitting, pissing cow-bots being robo-milked to feed China’s military of tomorrow which will lead them and us to a global nuclear war which will likely be the end of all life on Earth.
    So yeah. If you want to see your dead parents, your dead grandparents and your dead pets again then vote ACT and you’ll get to see them sooner than you might imagine.
    A shorter version of my rant might be this:
    National and its toxic tumor ACT are a club of liars and traitors who will never be sated by your money no matter how much of it they swindled from you.

  10. You talk of woke and cultural wars but maybe people are also dumb enough to buy the whole red tape bullshit. Fucked water tables and rivers but the likes of the dairy sector are over regulated. Bullshit. No competition in a number of are like food distribution and building supplies but it’s over regulated. Crap.

        • Yes, that will teach them. They will have to govern without the consent of the people.
          That is scary…. That will stop them from doing stuff that those who did not vote do not want.

          • Just boycott democracy, until a true, uniting Left wing party to emerge, just don’t hold your breath.

            • Many liberal and progressive ideas are supported by conservatives. So one can always vote for Winston or David … JT?

          • Hey JT. What do you think Labour did in 2020. Introduce alot of rubbish – 3-5 Waters, He Pua Pua, Maori Ward crap – there is plenty more!!

            • I think they did nothing much in 2020 and thereafter.
              I think “3Waters” stinks.
              I think we should debate He PuaPua.
              Māori Ward stuff should be left to councils.
              Other stuff they did? Not much of consequence.
              Other stuff that they should have done? Hell, that is a long list….

          • Hey JT. What do you think Labour did in 2020. Introduce a lot of rubbish – 3-5 Waters, He Pua Pua, Maori Ward crap – there is plenty more!!

  11. Maybe the difference at election time will be down to little bits around the edges which created impressions, regardless of whether they were as significant as WW 3 or as insignificant as the colour of a dress some MP wore. Such as the Stuart Nash stuff or Willie Jackson playing smartarse.

  12. It seems that this leads to a quote from Virgia Woolf as apposite.
    Women have served all these centuries as looking-glasses possessing the magic and delicious power of reflecting the figure of man at twice its natural size.

    The towering figures of ACT leaders building notoriety because of wokeness is truly a vision that shocks.

  13. If Labour would have just focused on getting good quality affordable houses build.

    • Oh yes RB, that’s what ACT are campaigning on..not. Let’s face it that’s not a vote winner. But it’s ok, we will have a productive economy because we won’t have a gun register. That’s such a pressing issue for so many hard working NZers.

  14. I see Act want to introduce a new Ministry, so here we have a party wanting to cut red tape etc by introducing a new Ministry – something out of the classic UK comedy Yes Minister yet no one is mentioning this farce

  15. Peters will clear the 5% easily his 19th and probably his last election campaign. That man has campaigned in and won elections over 6 different decades. He’ll throttle back that arrogant poodle Seymour and vacuous Luxon (Thumbelina).

    • At least Winston will be an Insurance Policy for the NZ Public keeping an eye on National/ACT/Labour in opposition if Winston Firsst gets over the 5% threash hold. He has stated he will not go with Labour and I can’t honestly see Winston and Seymour in a Coalition Government.

  16. The purpose of all ‘new’ ‘labour’ movements is to poison the well of social democracy. The easiest way to do this is by making them woke. Thus the coming election is a choice between the evil of mind and thought control vs the evil of bonded slavery – and to be honest NZ Labour is not averse to a bit of the latter either.

    Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t. Enjoy your vote.

  17. ” I’m really excited to see how the woke manage to get ACT to 17% on Election night. ”

    Excitement is not a word I would use.

    The insanity that passes for this woke identity politics garbage has done just as much damage as the neo liberal economic onslaught has done to many of our people being represented and their voices heard in this country.

    You only have to examine the people donating serious money to this monstrosity ACT and its ugly sister the Nasty Natz to see that they do not give a shit about all those below them on the economic ladder. Only their demand to maintain influence and control in keeping the status quo in place to ensure their continued wealth and prosperity while enforcing more austerity for the same victims.

    ” Voters aren’t voting on policy, they are voting on who made them feel resentful on social media! ”

    The destruction is about to be felt up to and beyond October 14th.

  18. The tickets were $50 and our 2 we looked upon as a donation, so what’s the fuss? Incredible to think that Brooke Van Velden Acts Deputy is the only person in Govt, albeit in opposition, with an economics degree. And when Andrew Hoggard gets in on the party list he will be another. 20% is an underestimation, people want real change from this lot, not just shades of Nat blue, otherwise more of the same.

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