Toxic Trans Troll cancelled & deplatformed (literally) – Thug Veto wins battle but loses Free Speech War

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I decided to cover this Toxic Trans Troll because while I disagree with what she says, she has the right to say it in a liberal progressive democracy.

Travelling into the protest, I spot 5 young men dressed like the Australian neoNazis with NZ Flags, so I can attest to Neonates being present…

..them plus Brian Tamaki’s Vision Party and Gender critical Feminists numbered no more than 200. Trans Allies were about 2500.

The moment she was escorted to the stage, the whole thing looked insanely stupid and dangerous.

She and her security team are attacked and brawled with every step of the way to the stage and once there, were repeatedly challenged and attacked by protestors.

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She was pelted and drowned out.

Activists surged past the fences…

…and stormed the stage. The event was obviously out of its depth from the get go and Police refused to go in and pull her out so her security team had to fight their way out and it got nasty very quickly…

…this was the mob doing what a mob does best. Get ugly fast.

The Police only intervened when her car got blocked in…

…I’m no fan of Parker, as far as I am concerned she is a fear grifter who loves this reaction and attention. However she is a manifestation of a cancel culture where these issues can’t be debated without woke social media lynchings.

The balancing act here was to protest and disrupt without becoming a mob, because the footage of her being attacked is now a propaganda tool for her anger grifting.

I think the entire community need to actually step back and consider how the militant cancel culture element of the debate has alienated everyone else and created the environment where Posie Parker can thrive.

I have many self declaring feminist women who privately tell me they have real misgivings with some of the Trans woke dogma but are terrified of saying anything because the Fourth Wave Feminists, non-binary activists and trans ally vegan mommy bloggers rip them to pieces on social media.

Because the woke activists rely on echo bunkers and cancel culture, they have lost the ability to persuade and because the Left is overrun by the woke that inability to win over people is rife throughout the movement.

Posie Parker is what happens when we censor.

We may have won the Thugs Veto Battle today, but we’ve lost the Free Speech War tomorrow.

In the end it wasn’t the Trans community who were in danger, it was Posie Parker and that’s exactly what she wanted.

Expect ACT to jump in the Polls.

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348 COMMENTS

  1. It’d be really helpful Martyn , if you could tell us which particular things that Kelly has to say that you find fear mongering or hateful
    Quotes from the source, rather than reports of , you know, that kind of thing.

    • Kelly talks about having outed a trans activist having taken her 16 year old child to Thailand to be “castrated” saying”but I didn’t use language as polite as that”. She highlights a serious issue of UK law being circumvented in a way that research has shown is likely to be harmful to many children. However, she is also potentially destroying a vulnerable young person’s life by thrusting them into the public gaze. She is clearly much more interested in headlines than making a useful contribution to the debate.

      • Bob. That’s possibly why a Thai clinic which does the castrations is now requiring psychiatrists’ reports from their customers’ country of origin. Here in New Zealand, a simple annotation on a certificate is enough to render one gender another gender, but that’s not good enough for overseas medical practitioners, and rightly so.

        Hopefully this speaker will be able to take successful legal action against the New Zealand mainstream media who have deliberately lied about her and who and what she represents to improve their own ratings, to indulge in gutter journalism, and to shit stir.

        Most of the protestors looked deranged, and the transgender lobbyists are bullying others all over the world, displaying few of the good attributes of natural born women, of which we have a plethora.

      • You means Susie Green formally of Mermaids?

        The one who paraded her kid around the tv Chanel’s after the surgery?

    • Free speech means not only the right to speak freely, but the right to be heard.
      As the abolitionist Frederick Douglass wrote in 1860 after an antislavery event was disrupted in Boston by a violent mob, “There can be no right of speech where any man, however lifted up, or however humble, however young, or however old, is overawed by force, and compelled to suppress his honest sentiments.” He continued, “Equally clear is the right to hear. To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker. It is just as criminal to rob a man of his right to speak and hear as it would be to rob him of his money.”

      https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/historic-document-library/detail/frederick-douglass-a-plea-for-free-speech-in-boston-1860

      • How dare you equate Douglass’s antislavery message with Parkers bigoted, hateful one. I have no doubt she would have supported slavery.

        • “There is a utilitarian case for free expression. It recognizes that the freedom to speak must also be insisted on for the person who thinks differently, because it is pointless to support only free speech for people who agree with you. It is not only unprincipled to want that, but also self-defeating. For your own sake, you need to know how other people think.” – Christopher Hitchens

        • @Sophora
          You are using an emotional outburst as argumentation and completely failing to grasp Douglas’ message. Given some of your recent comments I’m going to guess you are too young to have been around for gay marriage or anything earlier? Be careful not to become just a mirror image of people like Parker or assume that you are always on the side of the metaphorical angels.

          One key point of free speech is that at some point the political winds will change. As Martyn regularly points out, historically, suppression of free speech overwhelmingly gets used against the left and those without power or influence. Most (all?) of the achievements of the LGBT movement in western societies before the era of corporatised-woke were because there was a principle of free speech, however imperfectly applied.

          Only apply rules to the people you despise that, if the shoe was on the other foot, you would want them to apply to you.

          • Think about it. There’s no suppression of free speech because Parker/Whatever can & has said anything she likes on the internet. In the real, she deserved all the pushback she gets for her vile expression of hate.

      • If you think the violent and bullying behaviour on show in Auckland wins hearts and minds you misunderstand the majority of NZers.

      • Sephira,
        If you think the violent and bullying behaviour on show in Auckland wins hearts and minds you misunderstand the majority of NZers.

      • The only thing thoroughly pwned was the image of that violent mob yesterday so take the L and hope that the Media covers this up for you on Monday.

  3. Are the police going to charge the violent protestors? I doubt it, in todays woke police and dual justice approach.

    Clearly not a non violent protest from the trans community. Nobody went for woman, because some of the Trans community are violent and very deranged.

    Police protect the violent not free speech.

    • Hey, perhaps you should start cutting trans people some slack, instead of constantly hating on them. If you want to see cops laying into LGBT people, you are perfectly welcome to move to Russia, or Uganda.

      • Millsy jumps th he shark…again. since when is expecting the Police to their job “cops laying into LGBT people”.

        • LGBT people want to live a life free of judgement and discrimination. People like you hate then and want them pushed back into the closet.

          • “LGBT people want to live a life free of judgement”

            But today we saw LGBT pre-judging a speaker without bothering to hear what they had to say. Who else gets to live a life free of judgement – no-one.

          • People are well aware what she has to say, that’s why so many people turned up to prevent her saying it again & stirring up more hate, because the comments on this post definitely indicates there is a ready audience for her hate speech.

          • So now I have I listened to her interview with Kim Hill. I think I can summarize her position pretty simply. As a mum she doesn’t want any type of penis carriers in women’s public toilets and changing rooms which is the tradition in western society and there is a reason for that, protection of girls and women. I don’t know what the definition of hate speech is but I can’t see anything hateful about this.

      • I don’t think it’s appropriate the police stand by when the protesters are throwing soup unless it’s ok next time some politican says something someone doesn’t like and protestors throw soup on them and police also stand by. Too much inconsistency in NZ justice and approach. By all means heckle if you don’t agree, but throwing soup/pies/etc is normally an arrest by police. Funny for trans more violent action is allowed to stop free speech.

        • Throwing liquids is not OK in protests, it is an assault. It could be acid – a common liquid thrown at woman around the world.

          Sad NZ has come to this. International woman speakers are not safe enough to protest anymore when government panders to fringe groups that seem more hateful than who they are protesting against.

          2500 is hardly a lot of protesters for the trans community.

          J. K. Rowling and Enid Blyton are apparently hate criminals in fringe groups minds, for thinking woman are biological. It’s nuts.

          Someone posted that Stuff (woke media of NZ) had more than 50% supporting Posy Parker.

          The census should be on how many people thinks being a woman or man is biological rather than making people decide what gender they are.

          Don’t think the mainstream agree with the run-away-woke hysteria against woman’s groups but they don’t voice it because the trans activists are insane.

          • You are correct, throwing liquids at women is one of the major weapons used in countries where women are kept subservient. You don’t know the difference between acid and soup until it hits.

      • The contrast with this baying mob and the broadly supportive public attitude to pride marches, for example, couldn’t be clearer.
        Many of us may not be exactly pro LGBT etc. but are happy to live and let live. The trans tantrum was appalling, coming down like this on the Speak up For Women people won’t win them any friends.

      • You misunderstand Russian law where homosexuality is legal despite polls showing 83% against it. As it stands there are limits under Russian law namely no promoting the homosexual lifestyle to underage children which is the right balance overall.

        • That law is unacceptable. Under it, no one cal legally tell anyone that it is OK to be gay. And also any depictions of LGBT in the media are banned.

    • Agreed.a few of these Trans protestors should be pulled into line by the police. I know it’s un PC or woke buts it’s the truth.

  5. So all 2500 trans activists turned out. Not really a big issue in NZ, but somehow is blown out of all proportion! Good to know at the next protest in NZ about something else, you won’t be arrested if you throw soup at a speaker.

  7. This mob was more frenzied and hate filled, and fixated on misogynistic lies, than the feral Parliament protests in Wellington.

    • Whatever. YOu do realise that a lot of people still see LGBT’s the same way that the Nazi’s saw the Jews?

      • “a lot of people still see LGBT’s the same way that the Nazi’s saw the Jews”. So true, just like a lot of people have no truck with white men or black men or yellow men or brown men, etc. But nothing is resolved if you can’t hear other people’s opinions. Which group were scared of argument and went brownshirt today?

      • Sorry, comparing the Jews and by inference the holocaust with a bunch of selfish entitled fragile, mostly privileged white wokesters demanding the rest of us buy into their fantasies is laughable.

    • Oh fuck off. Where were the gas cylinders thrown on fires or playgrounds destroyed. Get a fucking life.

  8. I am disgusted with the police.

    One thing Parker did say in the interview that I saw, was that whilst there had been some argy bargy on the edge of meetings between Trans Supporters and other groups that the police had done a brilliant job of stopping protestors getting beyond the actual edges of the barricades.

    Talk about institutional capture!! Our police sat back and did A B SO LU TE LY NOTHING!!!!!

    All day yesterday on social media, trans activists were planning this with numerous comments (Put a brick in your handbag) suggesting they were prepared to get violent. So the police knew what the potential was even if they missed it all over the media all week!

    It should also be noted that despite the National Front turning out here and in Oz, that the only arrests so far on her Australian tour were 3 of TRANS ACTIVIST PROTESTORS.

    The minority interest groups have too much power in our country and they are egged on by our MPS, Media and even Police. MPs quote from this morning, I am so proud of these trans rights supporters and something along the lines of us not wanting people like Parker to speak in our country. Meanwhile in Victoria, an MP who simply attended a Parker rally last week to ask a question on behalf of a Constituent is fiighting for her survival for even attending.

    Maybe even worse still and we see this every day, if a minority in NZ dont want what they are getting, they will go on a rampage. The legal challenge yesterday was quite rightly (on technical grounds) denied but the court ruling wasnt good enough for the trans community. They will decide who can come to NZ and who can speak. And then they will sit around and shake hands with the media and say didnt we do well!!

    The trans lobby are more of a threat to NZ’s democracy and proud history of free speech than the handful of Auckland Uni brownshirts any day.

    • Those vulnerable marginalised minorities who only want to get on with their lives, ya just gotta hate ’em, more so for standing up for themselves. They have to know their place! Ain’t that right Fantail?

    • Not very intelligent speech at all, but free nonetheless I suppose. If the pro-trans argument is “fuck off” then it’s no wonder they refuse to defend their position rationally.

    • Yes, yes it would entirely be wrong its literally hate speech ie speech that calls for violence against a protected group ie women.

      If you said this about an NZ figure you’d have police at your door on Monday.

      The hyperbolic bullshit you and Millsy have directed at this woman and any woman who has concerns about sex based rights is disgraceful.

      As a member of the LGBT+ feral radical activists like you are making life harder and more dangerous for us.

      LGBT+ acceptance is trending downwards for the first time in history because the activists who wanted to assimilate into society and live our lives freely have been drowned out by toxic radical weirdos who want to change the world to fit around them and if anyone doesn’t agree 100% with the increasingly troublingly radical activists ideas like that sexuality is a choices, that homosexuality is a genital fetish, that sex is irrelevant, they experience extreme dog pilings of hate, can lose their job and their livelihoods.

      This radical angry activism is recruiting for the other side and making everyone who is LGBT+ life harder.

      First rule of politics, don’t upset the normies, and the normies are freaking the fuck out, just because they are not publicly saying doesn’t mean the conversations aren’t happening.

      I don’t know who the hell this Parker Posey chick is but shutting her down in a violent mob will win us queer people no friends. Instead we could have held our own event.

      I have no idea why women can’t express their concerns about sex based rights during a time where women’s sex based rights are globally under attack without being labeled a bigot

      And I have no idea why women at this rally are expected to condemn hard right wing weirdo men who tried to co-opt the rally, as a veteran of protests on the left I’ve never been expected to condemn tiny minority of genuine antisemites, vicious troglodytes who bring effigies of politicians being hanged and calls for violence by the always present but tiny minority of fringe weirdos who try to co-opt left wing protests.

      Seriously. If any women with a concern about their sex based rights is a Nazi then the LGBT+ which includes me is going to be experiencing some terrible backlash but I think that’s what radical activists in the queer community, who don’t speak for the queer community want.

      • Seems to me that I am more of an ally to the LGBT community, as a straight cis male, than you would ever be. You would throw them under a bus at the first chance.

        Mind you , you are on record as supporting prison rape/torture, and extrajudicial killings and beatings by police, so it figures.

  13. I was a proud trans ally. But not anymore, not after witnessing that disgusting behavior today. Kellie-Jay Keen didn’t speak, it was the trans activists that did the damage to their own cause today. Oh the irony in that.

    • Then you were never an ally in the first place. The God-botherers are coming. And they will outlaw being LGBT.

      • Oh no I was a strong ally. But I don’t condone violence or intimidation. Nor do I support those who want to stop others voicing their views. Reap what you sow.

      • Get a grip Millsy, no one’s coming to get you…. But I have to say that you guys are coming to get us is we step out of line. I even got into trouble cos at work I mentioned that my niece had a gender reveal party

  14. In 81 we marched, chanted, demonstrated. We did not attack, we were attacked. But we weren’t innocents.
    Like trans activists our aim was to deplatform the Boks. To get them gone. And we were totally intolerant of support for apartheid.

    I’d do it again against apartheid. For trans activist issues I have no affinity, no buy in, for or against. To me it’s a lot of pointless noise, what ever trans or straight people do is their own affair. Try and stop either doing that and I will have an issue.

  15. Thanks so much for writing about this Martyn.

    A woman holding an event to Let Women Speak was assaulted and mauled by an angry mob.

    I hope people take this in and realise how nasty the trans rights activists are and how intent they are on cancelling women and shutting down debate.

    As someone who has been smeared and cancelled, I welcomed the chance to speak up in the public square. Posie offered this

    For all of those people who had not realised what a hostile aggressive movement tras are, just saying I told you so.

    It’s a bit more than cancellation Martyn. It looks more like annihilation to me

    • What is your problem with the LGBT community? Why do you hate then so much? Do you really hate them so much that you would line up alongside neo Nazis and Brian Tamaki’s lot?

    • Im sorry, but Parker Posie, opposes LGBTQ rights, access to abortion and acces to contraception. She is a devout christian, who wants to impose traditional gender roles, and ban things like divorce, etc. If you stand with her, you stand with the Christian Taliban. You would be welcome with open arms in Uganda.

        • She still wants abortion banned. She probably wants to ban porn and prostitiution too. Total prude if you ask me. Women and men wouldnt even be able to hold hands in public if she had her way.

          • ” She probably wants to ban porn and prostitiution too. Total prude”

            She was also attacked because of what you think “she probably wants”! And she was attacked because she is a “Total Prude” – is that prude bashing? I am sure I have heard a some term like that before.

        • Recognizing a fool is a bold step toward saving you an argument with such people and walking away.

          Fools have a fixed mindset
          They always bring up stupid logic to support their theory
          Despite what you mention or say, they will always try to bring you down to their playing field
          They believe their ways to be correct, and they are the only ways that will work for anyone
          They are never open to new ideas
          They will go to any level to prove their point
          If you find yourself in an argument with a fool, it’s prudent you just stop and walk away. Immediately you start arguing with a fool, you’ve already lost. A fool will never make an effort to understand your idea or perspective. They are always right. So why don’t you save yourself at that moment…

          I nominate Millsy as cheif fool.

      • What planet? Christian Taliban! 🙂

        Christ: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

        Taliban: No speech rights for women.

        Trans: No speech rights for women.

      • You keep saying this but fail to provide any evidence when other commenters ask. Keep going you are almost up to “repeat a lie 100 times….”

    • Perhaps you got smeared for good reason. You oppose trans rights, support police brutality, are anti-vax, and want US style health care imposed. I dont think you are that good a person at all really.

  17. The police have to be investigated as to their inaction .
    People could have been killed because a mob were allowed to storm the stage without any police action to stop them
    If this had been a right wing mob attacking Trans speakers the police presence would have been huge
    If the rule of law stops working then people take the law into their own hands whether it’s against looters in Hawkes Bay, ramraiders in Aukland or cancel culture thugs today.
    Be very careful about the precedent that’s being set

    • 100%. This is not about Posie Parker and whether her views are right or wrong. This is about a violent mob deplatforming someone and stopping 200 people listening to someone they wanted to listen to. Not the least bit democratic and decidedly UnKiwi.

      The sensible and fair thing to do would have been to stay home but that didnt give them what they wanted. They wanted to win and shut down all debate in NZ over anything related to trans rights. If they really wanted to protest why were they so aggressive and abusive before Parker had even spoken? Why did they invade the barricades immediately? Why did they break the law?

      I have written to our new Police Minister suggesting she call on Coster to resign. The police have displayed bias time and again over the last 3 years and simply did not do their job. They did not ensure the human rights of the 200 people who turned out to listen and regardless of your politics, this is a breach of the human rights Act.

  18. Quit your whining. KJK is basically Phyllis Schafly with a peroxide hairdo and Bardot sunglasses. A woman who wants to turn the clock back to the 1950’s, where LGBT’s were in the closet, police measured hemlines in public, abortion was banned, and gays were put in prisons or asylums.

    I couldn’t give a shit about ‘free speech’, like you guys seem to be so precious about. AND Brian Tamaki was there. Do you guys really want to stand with HIM?!

    • Millsy, I have to say it but if you dont give a damn about free speech then that makes you one of the dumbest posters on here.

      For pity’s sake, read a book and find out why free speech is as important to you as it is to everyone else.

      • Arguing with a fool
        … A famous phrase applies here.

        Millsy is the fool.
        One of several who can not think critically or logically, and believe it’s OK to crush people they disagree with.

        Ignoring his /her comments is wise.

    • Rainbow Fascism? Really. It was a case of people who wanted to live their lives standing up to people who wanted to restrict them from doing so. Plain and simple. Perhaps you might want to move to Uganda? LGBT’s are executed there.

      • You are the racist one. I am sick and tired of your blatant hatred towards LGBT’s in this country. I am sick and tired of your hatred toward the union moviement, public services and the welfare state, so you can get one over on ‘the trannies’. Is free speech and bashing trans people really worth freezing the wages of thousands of New Zealanders over?

          • Well you could have fooled. You are full of blind hatred and resentment and its is quite reprehensible.,

          • Millsy I think you are failing to understand what the issues are.
            The reason I got into this fight was the appalling harassment of my lesbian sister by the trans rights activists
            You do know that most of Speak Up for Women are lesbian or left wing activists.
            If you go to their home page and click on about us then you can read all the activism they have been involved in including fighting for abortion.
            And in terms of me be a racist, I am married to a Maori.

          • “You do know that most of Speak Up for Women are lesbian or left wing activists.”

            If true, it’s extremely disappointing that a minority refuses to support another, even more marginalised, group 🙁

    • Rainbow Fascism describes it perfectly. Let me live my life like I want to but I will not only tell you how to live yours but I will enforce your behaviour as well. I decide what you can hear and cant hear. Fascist indeed.

  20. So much for my rights under s 14 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act, to “to seek [and] receive … information and opinions of any kind in any form.”

    You don’t exercise your rights at the expense of someone else’s. I’ll now be donating to the FSU and ACT.

    • Ummm have you heard about the “internet”, Sean? Loads of hateful bigoted anti-trans rubbish to found there.

      You could try scrolling through the comments from your friends here today & tonight, for a start.

    • On what basis Sean?

      Information from the protesters and their opinions or Pollys or Ankers, see that’s just the issue, you choose whatever your own values align too. If it’s Acts, good fucking luck with those weirdos.

  21. The Lottery short story deals with ritual attacks given continuity by tradition and how important it is not to allow this to develop.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lottery
    Upon the morning of the lottery, the townspeople gather shortly before 10 a.m. in order to have everything done in time for lunch. First, the heads of the extended families each draw one slip from the box, but they do not unfold them until all the slips have been drawn. Bill Hutchinson gets the marked slip, meaning that his family has been chosen. His wife, Tessie, protests that Mr. Summers rushed him through the drawing, but the other townspeople dismiss her complaint. As the Hutchinson family consists of only one household, a second drawing to choose one household within the family is skipped.

    For the final drawing, one slip is placed in the box for each member of the household: Bill, Tessie, and each of their three children. Each of the five draws a slip, and Tessie gets the marked one. The townspeople pick up the gathered stones and begin throwing them at her as she screams about the injustice of the lottery…

    The story also speaks of mob psychology and the idea that people can abandon reason and act cruelly if they are part of a large group of people behaving in the same manner. The idyllic setting of the story also demonstrates that violence and evil can take place anywhere and in any context. This also shows how people can turn on each other so easily. When or where it is set, specifically, is never said, leaving some to consider it science fiction.

  22. Ironic that trans rights now supersedes heterosexuals rights to say hang on we don’t like you canceling what is essentially the foundation of humanity, male/ female. As a wise old woman says, it doesn’t Matter what you identify as because in 100 years when they dig up your skeleton you are still going to be identified as Male/Female.

  23. Surely we’re all missing some fundamental questions.
    Is She/Her Miss, Mrs or Ms,
    and is She/Her Posie Parker or Posey Parker.
    Just how does Posie/Posey identify. I’m putting my whole life on hold until I can find the truth. I’ve been doing my research, but so far I’ve come up with nothing. Pretty sure it must be a conspiracy just to make sure I never know the answer

    • Well she must be a woman bodied woman as she has 4 kids but I dont know what she identifies as I think she said Mother on more than one occassion.

  24. Bloody fantastic to see. About time Kiwi literally stand up and fight for what they believe in. Too many keyboard warriors. If you want to talk shit about trans people be prepared to back up your words with action. That’s not cancel culture. That takes me back to 81.

    • and 84 to 86 gay rights battle against the religious right fore gay rights.
      Posie parker is funded by the largest republican party political action committee.
      The Conservative political Action Committee which receives funds from every sector of the right from neo nazis to just average right wingers.

      Just take a look at what is happening in those hard right USA states.

      If the left backs down for just one second that bullshit will be on our doorstep in a flash.

      It wasn’t just trans people in the anti protester line it was every sector of the LGTBQIA and straight allies.

      The far right and their allies were put on notice on Saturday.

      The far right and VFF tried to disrupt christchurch’s pride week and failed.

  25. Complete own-goal for the intolerant, hateful, bigot, and non-inclusive “rainbow community.” The funniest aspect is that they are crowing like they were the winners. I think they woke a lot of people out of their complacent slumber today. Not pretty.

    • Oh you say some funny things Fidel. Whose own goal again? Surely not the person who couldn’t even start her hate sermon?

      • When the “tolerant, loving, and inclusive” Rainbow community expose themselves as actually being violent, intolerant, hateful and exclusive, then I think that’s a complete own goal. Posie Parker may have been drowned out, but the violent mob couldn’t have prove her point better – they are completely disfunctional individuals who are frequently a danger to normal people.

        • Who wants to support a merchant of prejudice, denial of gender identity, & hate? No trans person I know, nor their allies & supporters.

    • Ummm Fidel the own goal was all the anti-transters doing. Serves her right for threatening the PM & drawing so much attention to her bigoted self.

  26. There is catchy song missing to complete this. The first one that comes to historically non-ignorant person would be:
    “Die Straßen frei fûr braunen Regenbogen”

  27. I have seen a lot of protests going back 40 odd years.
    This was the most hysterical, hate filled, pointless, inarticulate shout down I have seen. Even the parliamentary lawn protests railed against the might of the state. This ugly ignorant baying mob was so incensed by one tiny mouthy feminist they completely lost any moral high ground they thought they had.
    Act and NZ First indeed will benefit from this, for this is woke, cancel culture, hard left entitled delusional politics at its worst.

      • Presumptuous and predictable of you millsy.
        The problem with extremists is if you disagree with them then that is propelled straight to hate. There is no discussion. Cancellation before conversation.
        It shows your no better than the boofhead protesters today.

      • @millsy,
        When people exhibit and froth forth hatred and violence towards others it is usually a sign of a deep down and suppressed sign of their own self hate projected on to another. Rejection or aversion or forms of separatism are one thing, vehement loathing and desire to exterminate is another.
        The human animal though, is after all something of a misbegotten naked ape. Collectively we may even seem like aliens in the natural environment of our planet.
        Some time ago I read a book called ‘Living Downstream’ by the ecologist Sandra Steingraber. You can read the reviews on the below link.
        Steingraber mentions a phenomena called endocrine disruption which is the name for the way in which nano particles of plastic fool the receptors on a cell and manage to cross into the endocrine system. The effects on animals and birds in the wild have been noted and there is no reason to imagine the same effects on humans. The subject seems to be curiously taboo but one does wonder at the way the left has discarded the politics of class for the politics of sex and why the endorsement of multiple gender variations are promoted all round and everywhere.
        Maybe it’s to avoid massive amounts of law suits and demands for reparation from petrochemical corporations.

        https://www.amazon.com/Living-Downstream-Ecologists-Investigation-E

  28. Yep. I will be voting right bloc. Don’t care anymore about their policy. Will not abide by this. there is no opportunity to debate. Ciao.

  29. This garbage is exactly why people like her are able to get more traction. Fascist shutdown and violence against any dissent. As always, the proper response is to hold a counter rally that actually includes impassioned and well thought out speeches and points. Talking and listening to those who are interested in that moron in order to get them to learn more and understand why they are wrong. Not violently attack anyone who disagrees with you.

    This “you’re as woke as us on our wokest days or you deserve to be destroyed as an example to others” ethos is continually doing more damage to the causes they want to help than any possible good. Fascism is fascism. And if you’re unable to hear and argue against an opposing view that’s often misguided and ill-informed then you need to find the people who can do so and put them in charge. Where are the ‘adults’ in this trans activist arena instead of the childish people proclaiming everyone has to agree and if you argue against it you shall be destroyed.

  30. When did Pride Auckland replace the Chief Censor and decide what we should be allowed to be exposed to, or not?

  32. Amazing the people on here crapping on about ‘protecting women’, but are completely silent about proposals in the USA to impose death sentences for women seeking abortions, or Russia effectively decriminalising domestic abuse, or perhaps the sexual harrasement of women in the work place, etc and so on.

    What about the women in the USA who got long prison sentences for having misscarriages?

    I think you guys are just a bunch of bible bashing bigots, who support banning anything and everything. As I said before, you would gladly support Uganda’s new anti LGBT laws.

  33. If only we would see crowds protest for something meaningful. NZ’s complete lack of action on climate change, our inaction on biodiversity collapse or our governments inaction on inequality but to name a few of the major issues we face…

  34. Hey Anker, I see on The Standard that you are voting for ACT. You are willing to put the ‘right’ to call LGBT’s ‘sodomites’ above payrises for our low paid workers, and a welfare system that supports the needy, a social housing that supports the homeless and a health system that supports the sick.

    Dont fucking come crying to me when National and ACT start putting cash registers in our hospitals.

  35. The militant trans mob is far more dangerous to democracy than the sad ragtag handful of so called Nazis depicted in the photo

  37. Listen to the right wing anti-trans bigots bleat & bleat while they lick their wounds.

    Poor wee babies, losing so sore & hard. If I cared I’d nearly feel sorry for them.

    • Well, to answer your question, people like me, are very creeped out towards why you would want surgery to change your body so dramatically.

      Not that we hate trans, its more due to the fact we can’t really understand why.

      I’ll try and find a better equivalent you can understand.

      I like philosophy, but there is a certain point when your internal sophistry can’t form true opinions about reality

      The fact is that if you are in fact a biological male, if I was to take you and force feed you estrogen you would not be ok with it. We know this from when they effectively did that to gay men back in the day as an attempt to castrate them. Even today when men with prostate cancer have to take some very low levels of estrogen, they get agitated by it.

      Trying to simply do some kind of philosophical imagining here is like imagining breathing in the vacuum of outer space. Sure its possible in thought, but if you tried it, that wouldn’t work out to well.

    • It’s pretty apparent that the behaviour of the radical trans protestors today has harmed their reputation with the wider public.
      No one likes entitled shrieking cancel culture yobs mobbing a tiny mouthy feminist or anyone else for that matter.
      Not the brightest of strategies to elicit the support of the voting public in an election year.
      A lot of good quiet achievement over the years undone in 30 minutes.

      • You & your anti-trans comrades have absolutely NO idea about the challenges of being trans. How would you like to be part of a tiny, vulnerable community being picked on? How would you like your identity being denied you? How would you like others wishing to curtail your rights?

        Wilful ignorance & prejudice are drivers of the anti-trans movement. It is pure bigotry. Trans people are no threat to anyone — certainly no more so than cis people. In fact cis people are a far greater threat to trans, as witnessed by the discrimination & violence towards them. Yesterdays protest was about the trans community giving back to the bigots all that they deserve.

        • Trans can only be trans in a first world nation. The cops aren’t bashing the trans community, the courts aren’t denying trans safe spaces. Taking pot shots at people on YouTube doesn’t count as “oppression.”

          I would argue that trans activists are the bigger threat. Half of all trans suicide is due to them being lied to. Transitioning to fast brings disappointment.

          Taking puberty blockers to early can’t be reversed.

          If you leave gender dysmorphic kids the hell alone 80% of them settle into there own bodies. 70% of the remaining 20% end up homosexual so the greater threat to trans is the activist.

          Self identification is not a symptom. That’s us trying to empathize with gender dysmorphic patients.

  38. Wow, what a dumpster fire, definitely no transphobia in Aotearoa, is there? Some nasty undercurrents on display here. I guess tomorrow is another day, see you in Wellington.

  39. It’s pretty apparent that the behaviour of the radical trans protestors today has harmed their reputation with the wider public.
    No one likes entitled shrieking cancel culture yobs mobbing a tiny mouthy feminist or anyone else for that matter.
    Not the brightest of strategies to elicit the support of the voting public in an election year.
    A lot of good quiet achievement over the years undone in 30 minutes.

  40. You miss the point, but hardly surprising given the level of juvenile hysteria I saw at Albert Park this morning.

  41. You miss the point, but hardly surprising given the level of juvenile hysteria I saw at Albert Park this morning.

  42. You miss the point, but hardly surprising given the level of juvenile hysteria I saw at Albert Park this morning.

  43. You miss the point, but hardly surprising given the level of juvenile hysteria I saw at Albert Park this morning.

  44. Best Hate Speech of the March 25 event – Marama Davidson leaving the protest “…I am a prevention violence minister and I know who causes violence in the world, it is white cis men, that is white cis men…”.

    This can be seen in a video clip of Marama walking down a footpath with supporters as she leaves the protest, embedded in various news coverage including on a newshub page.

    Perhaps the Greens have decided to narrow their voter base.

  45. Memo: Ms Posie
    Just because you’ve got one doesn’t mean you should act like one. And stop whining, you got exactly what you wanted. Thanks for illustrating what “$10,000” of security looks like.

    • Are you referring to a female body part?
      And using that word to denigrate and dehumanise?
      Why does a female body part engender such hatred?

  46. The rejection of woke ideology is already under way and yesterdays disgraceful performance by the zenith of extreme left woke cancel culture ideology will hasten voters in this years election to vote with their feet.
    Unfortunately for the hard woke, and inadvertently moderate liberals, the result will be a solid move to the right.
    If left unchecked extreme woke ideology becomes fascism.

    • Exactly and when the media and government all believe in the woke and everyone else is the enemy and to blame and are not allowed to speak freely, it is fascism. That is where we are in NZ, judging by the government, police and woke not allowing an international speaker a safe place to speak.

      Remember the woke, won’t let Don Brash speak at a university either, as he is too racist thus it could be dangerous for the woke insane. Seriously they are snow flaking the wrong people, stopping free speech and people in authority in NZ are enabling it, just like the German officials in the 2nd world war or the red guards in Communist China.

      There should not be fear on letting someone speak – you don’t have to agree with it, but a decent society and government needs to tolerate it and make it safe.

  48. Oh, how time times have changed.

    Rotten tomatoes were once considered legit as they were a safer alternative to slings and arrows.
    Now tomato soup is verboten.

    I only see the inexorable march of progress.

  49. Oh the pitiful excuse for what passes as a
    Nazi in this day and age.

    While Germany in the 1930s had the Black Shirts the best NZ can come up with is the Black Shorts.

  50. Anker hasnt denied that she wants abortion and birth control out lawed, and hasnt denied that she would be fine with freezing and cutting the wages of thousands of women who work in call centres, as cleaners and checkout operators.

  51. 300+ comments! Wow, it turns out the most important issue in New Zealand today, is what that woman in the cubicle next door could be concealing under her skirt. Fuck climate change, fuck poverty, fuck race relations, fuck housing, fuck inequality, fuck the war in Ukraine, the burning issue of the day is whether transphobia is OK, and judging by a lot of the comments here & elsewhere, the answer seems to be yes. Wow New Zealand, just wow.

    • I think extreme activists with no idea what a woman is turn to shame, insults, guilt and a need to be right and think it’s a winning argument.

    • The right & other bigots need scapegoats, Kim, & so they choose vulnerable minorities.

      Aren’t they so courageous? The pressing issues of the world are too easy for them to help solve… not.

  52. Posie Parker departs New Zealand; JK Rowling blasts protest as ‘repellent’
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-departs-new-zealand-jk-rowling-blasts-protest-as-repellent/LMND5CEKWRBWBE43ISC3IS4QH4/

    “British gender activist Posie Parker has left New Zealand, calling it the ‘worst place for women she has ever visited’.

    Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, also known as Posie Parker, shared a photo on social media showing her being escorted by police through Auckland Airport.

    She left her rally at Albert Park in Auckland yesterday without speaking, after being overwhelmed by thousands of heckling counter-protesters and pelted with tomato juice.

    Controversial Harry Potter author JK Rowling took to Twitter this morning to brand the protest scenes in Auckland yesterday “repellent”.

    During a series of Tweets, she said a mob “had assaulted women standing up for their rights”.

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