Jesus fucking wept!
The latest extraordinary investigative journalism from Pulitzer Award Winning Journalist Seymour Hersh is made so much more poignant because his detail is difficult to refute alongside his past history of exposing power.
Hersh is one of the best journalists the planet has and if he says that America purposely colluded with Norway to blow up the Nordstream pipeline that released 400 000 tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, then they fucking did!
Hersh’s previous body of work has been some of the best investigative journalism using decades of contacts within the Military and the Political Elites. He is rarely faulted, and the evidence and time frame he narrates looks inexcusably true.
If what has been alleged is true, the Americans had no intention of never blowing these pipelines up, they were only concerned about not getting caught!
That means they were always prepared to commit a climate disaster on purpose no matter what the outcome!
They were always going to commit an ecological genocide for their long term political ambitions of hurting Russia.
These Gods of Corporate War and White Christian Rage were always prepared to cause an ecological carnage to broaden their moves on the geopolitical chess board.
These Gods of Madness and Greed are a horror to behold in their naked ambition.
To needlessly blow up a pipeline and cause 400 000 tons of climate change omnicide is an environmental war crime!
New Zealand must go to the United Nations and demand an investigation into these extraordinary allegations, because if there is any truth in this matter, America and Norway have committed a grotesque crime against the environment that is simply so obscene in its magnitude that it can not, must not go unpunished!
What the fuck is going in here? Are these allegations true or not because if they are true, the civilised world must reject such needless violence against the environment!
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Russia should Nagasaki Washington, Berlin, no 10 Downing Street,Paris, Sydney, Wellington, all of Poland because theyre all Nazis!
Watch all of those countrys governments get flipped at their next election.
@ Im Right will find this fascinating.
https://theglobalherald.com/thought/opinion/nord-stream-pipeline-you-were-right/
The depravity of greed knows no bounds.
Well done @ MB.
On point of Norway being economically beneficial to the Nordstream pipeline sabotage. The head of NATO is a Norwegian national and ex PM of Norway ‘Jens Stoltenberg’. He and Jim Crow Biden have thrown 10s of millions of Germans under the bus for their own economical and long term geopolitical strategic advantage. Tic for tac is the game that Russia can play aswell. Lets see if the Norway pipelines will one day be prone to sabotage?
Remember that recycling & buying EVs is the solution to climate change. Trust your Governments.
There will no consequences, American aggression is benign and for the greater good. Russian aggression bad.
Destroying the environment is just one more thing the Americans love to do. Their military alone pollutes more than most nations on earth. Sinking every American ship would be a great start to combating climate change.
Welcome to (starting to) catch-up.
” New Zealand must go to the United Nations and demand an investigation into these extraordinary allegations, because if there is any truth in this matter, America and Norway have committed a grotesque crime against the environment that is simply so obscene in its magnitude that it can not, must not go unpunished! ”
New Zealand is a best friend and will do absolutely nothing regarding this. That’s what an independent foreign policy really looks like in reality when it comes to a conflict like the Ukraine. We do what we are told.
Russia’s war in the Ukraine is the driving force behind this sabotage and the any damage to the environment and the climate would I am sure never been considered when the U.S Navy and the Norwegians took action.
” If Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine, again — then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” Biden said on Feb. 7, 2022. “We will bring an end to it.”
” Prior to the invasion, President Biden had threatened that the Nord Stream 2 project connecting Russia and Germany would not move forward if an attack took place, causing some to suspect US involvement when the pipelines exploded seven months later. ”
” Then-White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Hersh’s report was “riddled with inaccuracy and outright falsehoods,” while former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell told CBS News at the time that he “got a third of the way through [the article] and I stopped because every sentence I was reading was wrong.”
Their denials as usual are just not plausible.
Hersh imho has again got this right.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/seymour-hersh-claims-us-navy-behind-nord-stream-2-pipeline-explosion/
“NATO’s Eastern expansionist war in the Ukraine is the driving force behind this sabotage…”
Fixed
Of course they are true. That was obvious from the very beginning. Why would Russia blow up its own pipeline, especially when all it had to do was turn off the taps. As it was, it was the West which was refusing to buy Russian gas, not Russia refusing to sell it.
It was clear who sabotaged the pipeline even at the time it occurred. Only two entities had the ability to do the act (i.e. Russia and the United States), whereas only one of these two had the motivation to do it (i.e. the United States). Russia had spent billions on the pipeline, and was benefitting from the revenue it was receiving through gas sales to Europe, principally Germany. If Russia wanted to cut off supplies to Germany, they would have closed a valve rather than destroying valuable infrastructure. So, Russia didn’t do it. Moreover, let’s not forget that Liz Truss (remember her?) sent a text that was later leaked saying “It’s done,” while Former Polish minister and member of the European Parliament Radoslaw Sikorski posted on social media “Thanks, USA” along with a photo of the leaking conduit. So there was never any doubt who did what.
However, the main point isn’t really the ecological consequences, the point is that the affair clearly demonstrates the cynical machiavellian thinking of Washington DC and how its rhetoric is completely at odds with reality. In the interests of preventing any close relationship and alliance between Germany and Russia (which has been an ongoing aim for 100 plus years), the Americans crippled the economies of their so-called “allies” in NATO, principally Germany but many other European nations as well.
We are told that Russia operates “outside the rules-based order” of the more (self-described) moral and noble nations of the world, and as evidence, we are directed to events in Ukraine. But if Russia do so act, then they are in good company. When Washington talks of its “rules-based order” what they really mean is whatever is best for them, with the implication (seen in the Nordstream affair) they can simply ignore any of their purportedly noble standards as an when it suits them, if it advances their interests or the interests of their friends.
Hard to disagree Antoine. If the USA did in fact blow up Nordstream, it was an act of war.
“Redacted” covered this story (since MSM won’t go anywhere near it). Has the juicy clips of Biden (and other US officials) bragging they were going to stop Nordstream too. Worth watching if you can’t bothered reading the very long expose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1SIr7-HxdA
Do the Uighur next. Do Jong Kee and Jinping Xi.
Why would anyone waste time on fake genocides literally invented by the enemies of humanity so that they can pretend that their own very real ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians is no big deal?
What is most disturbing about this sabotage is it shows that the US will stop at nothing to achieve its aims, which is deeply disturbing when it has more nuclear weapons than any other country in the world. One has to wonder, does the leadership of the US have any self-control anymore? We are not talking about JFK or Nixon trying to reduce the threat of nuclear war. We are talking about a country with a first strike policy. Given that the US knows it can’t win a conventional war against China, will it consider using a first strike nuclear attack? This is what the Chinese will be wondering.
Some background on Hersh here:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/prize-winning-reporter-seymour-hersh-no-stranger-controversy-2023-02-09/
He’s become less believable in his later years especially when claiming Pakistan was holding Bin Laden captive before the raid that killed him.
Hersh is claiming this Nord Stream attack theory all from a single unverifiable source.
= story needs verification before believing, could be one man’s continuing descent in to delusion from a once insightful journalist.
Even if Hersh can provide no evidence, it’s not at all difficult to believe that it was the US who sabotaged Nordstream 2.
White Christian rage? Anyway now you’ve figured out what the conspiracy theorists have been saying since it happened, could you write an article on how no one is trying to broker peace.
Don’t use this to excuse conspiracy theory thinking.
One doesn’t have to be a conspiracy freak to consider that this narrative contains some core substance.
You know full well that America will never accept responsibility for their actions, nor will they face any penalties or consequences for their actions.
Those Gods are willing to convert this beautiful world into a nuclear wasteland for their ideology.
About damn time the cat was let out of the bag. Nordstream finally exposed, credible vide evidence of Ukraine using chemical weapons and a well praised thesis damning the far right being responsible for the sniper shootings during the Maidan. Remind me again why Ukraine is the innocent victim.
My comments on TDB going back to the start of the page/blog have consistently said that US Imperialism remains the major threat to world peace in all realms of human activity.
Unbelievably reckless if true.
( Apols if I’ve already posted this here. )
@Russell Brand. Latest.
“Surprise surprise – you were right about Nord Stream all along.”
https://youtu.be/rDA2-HMcNZ8
Ok. So shall we now ponder the implications of this revelation?
NATO? USA Military Industrial Complex? Petrochemical lobbyists wandering about in The White House? Zelenskey/Ukraine/Johnson etc?
Now this from almost four months ago.
Russell Brand:
“I recently spoke with former navy seal Jocko Willink about if America has the capability to blow up an underwater pipeline similar to Nord Stream 2. ”
https://youtu.be/a3ifDiJP0Ak
My biggest concern is that the USA might simply say ” Yeah? So what. Fuck off ! ”
Will we then get militarized corporations demanding compliance or else?
Environment and life itself come second to US hegemony, this is terrorism plain and simple. The US and their crazed white pride sycophants will commit a holocaust if it helps them dominate a market. What did Ardern and the government know about Nordstream, the bridge bombing, the West’s sabotage of the peace plans and the rest?
The current NATO Secretary General is Jens Stoltenberg. He’s use to be the PM of Norway. Norway pipelines will be pumping since Germany needs alternative energy and guess who benefits?
Jesus, this is an unhinged rant. Hersh is famously unreliable, particularly in the last decade or so. Take a deep breath, Martin.
Nicko and many others against Hersh; who is said to be notoriously unreliable? If you are going to take on the blogmaster Nicko, what is your own status on reliability? Assertions mean nothing to me, give us the links and preferably copy of paragraph where it states the example of Hersh’s unreliability – about what was he unreliable? Not from the dark web either. Are your links going to be reliable? It’s useless to give us your strong opinion, we are all cynical about those here.
Spotted the My Lai Massacre supporter.
Well…the Americans are the only ones likely to have benefited with the pipes being blown up. And Norway now gets to supply Europe with it’s own gas…so. .
I have to say I always suspected the Yanks and a month or two later when Germany sailed through the winter with almost no disruption to energy supply (or as it appeared to me), it looked increasingly forewarned on the Nato side.
Meh, not good but not unheard of on either side during ‘war’ time (oh I forgot, NATO isnt at war!!) definitely well within the West’s playbook.
Would Trump have done it. No. Your man Biden absolutely.
Can we just call the US the US. “White Christian Rage”. The Russians are white christians and the rest of them are eurasian christians and a couple of percent are still commies. The US military is full of blacks asians gays women atheists and white christians.
Putin: Gods on our side
Biden: Gods on our side
Zelensky: Gods on our side
https://bit.ly/WAR-IS-A-RACKET–General-Smedley-Butler
+ 1 Joseph. Some “progressives” don’t seem very keen on white people or Christians.
C’mon the USA puts up Christianity like a shield – have commercialised and cheapened it. Talking about it, referring to it constantly, reinforcing with polls as to how religious USAmericans are creates a climate of probity they erect for themselves which mixed with a show of puritanism is part of their sales pitch for themselves.
If you get the reports of the two days discussion that the USA leaders and professionals undertook before deciding to drop the nuclear bomb on Japan, most of the time was in technical discussion, only a little at the start about moral and ethical religious concerns…
because ‘God is with us – on Our side’.
Christians have nothing to do with American foreign policy, Joseph. Ariel Sharon ordering George Bush to invade Iraq wasn’t a Christian attack.
” Ariel Sharon ordering George Bush to invade Iraq wasn’t a Christian attack.” George jr thought God speaking to him..
Biden threatened the Nordstream pipeline before Russia invaded Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbEoZXhCrM
also the old argument of “cui bono” given the proportion of Russian GDP that Nordstream represents.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/02/09/biden-ordered-destruction-of-nord-stream-pipelines-claims-renowned-journalist-seymour-hersh/
The U.S want to keep their involvement secret because, not only is it an act of international terrorism….it contravenes international convention and is in fact an act of..war.
They are sabre rattling China as well.Very dangerous..times.
c’mon Martyn – “White Christian Rage” !!?? If someone else were to substitute black for white and you’d be throwing racist epiphets around like confetti. It’s entirely unnecessary and beneath you.
Now back to the weather…..
Nope. Given the long history of the CIA’s Machiavellian machinations in the name of “ democracy”, aka as America’s interests, anything is possible.
White christian rage is well represented in US governance.
Take a little time out to research the attitudes of Mike Pompeo and John Bolton.
Bolton and Pompeo aren’t any more ‘Christian’ than Jerry Falwell was, when his bosses gave him a Learjet for advocating for them against the interests of Americans and Christians and humans in general.
All that gas is getting sold elsewhere and won’t come back, short of a miracle Germany will have to live on less energy at many times the cost. The US just Morgenthaued Germany. The message to the rest of the world is that the US is a very dangerous ally, one who cannot be trusted.
Actually Nick I would not be surprised if the pipeline is repaired and in operation within a couple of years.
Once the issues are resolved in Ukraine which will not take much longer without full on active involvement of Nato, I think self interest will soon take over in Germany. If Nato gets properly involved in the war though there may be no one to use any gas.
D J S
“…..is made so much more poignant because his detail”
Seymour Hersh may just have unnecessarily overegged the pudding by including ‘so much more poignant’ detail.
Fucking liar, fucks up
https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe
“…It is often stated that people who lie have a tendency to add too much superfluous detail to their accounts. This attempt to “cover all bases” is in many cases what trips these people up. Extra details add extra points of reference that can be crosschecked and examined. In Hersh’s case, this is exactly what appears to have happened.”
You really are a curious creature, Pat.
You look at who Oliver Alexander publishes in… WAPO, NYT etc shit radars go to high alert. Seymour Hersh.. My Lai massacre, Guantanamo torture etc, stories passed muster, calling time on the Empires evil foibles. You are losing it Pat.
A journalist I have tremendous respect for is Jonathan Cook.
I read this article of his back in October.
https://braveneweurope.com/jonathan-cook-can-europe-afford-to-turn-a-blind-eye-to-evidence-of-a-us-role-in-pipeline-blasts
Agree totally Lois , on Jonathan Cook
He is rigorous, well researched and honest , and doesn’t treat his readers as if they were kindergarten pupils
He also wrote a 2 part long essay “Intellectual Cleansing ” on how it is that journalists employed on major media sites , all preach from the same songbook .He details his own experience with the Guardian
We met Jonathan in Nazareth, many years ago when he was still living and reporting from the West Bank. We bought, & recommend, his book Disappearing Palestine Israel’s Experiments in Human Despair
(written in 2008!!)
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