Don’t state house tenants want to live in Asquith Ave in the Prime Minister’s electorate?

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In an earlier post I detailed how the Labour government has embarked on the mass privatisation of state house land amid a housing catastrophe for people on low and middle incomes.

The response to an Official Information Act request shows that in the last three years Labour has sold $131 million of former state house land – mostly through five LSPs (Large Scale Projects) being run by Kāinga Ora – listed in the table below. (Land sales in a sixth LSP in East Porirua have not yet begun!)

Former state house land sales

In addition to the $131million in land sold so far, hundreds of millions more is in the pipeline to be sold.

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According to Kāinga Ora the total land involved with these LSPs is 458 hectares with half this land projected to be sold to private property developers – all in prime locations which would be ideal for the large-scale state house building so desperately needed.

I pointed out the pattern being followed in each LSP is the same. Demolish hundreds of state houses, sell most of the land to private property developers and use the proceeds to build small numbers of new state houses – small in terms of the numbers actually needed.

This pattern began with the Helen Clark Labour government in the redevelopment of the Tamaki area of Auckland (Glen Innes, Point England and Panmure), was continued by National under John Key and is being continued apace under the current Labour government.

In addition to the land sales under the LSPs, Labour has sold former state house land elsewhere. For example in Mt Albert’s Asquith Avenue.

Don’t state house tenants want to live in Asquith Ave in the Prime Minister’s electorate?

Land like Asquith Avenue is needed for the industrial-scale state house building programme which we urgently need.

Sale of state houses

When it comes to the sale of state houses themselves the current Labour government is continuing the practice of the former National government. The OIA response for state house sales from the last 10 years runs to 57 pages and thousands of state houses sold. Most of these sales occurred under the previous National government including the infamous sale of all 1124 state houses in Tauranga to an offshoot of IHC. But plenty more have been sold under Labour.

For example National began the sale of state houses in Auckland’s Orakei suburb but Labour has been just as ruthless.

Meanwhile the mass sales of state houses has occurred under the current Labour government in places like Papakura (over 100 homes for $68 million) and New Plymouth (76 homes for $30.3 million)

The overall pattern being followed by successive Labour and National governments is the sale of state houses and former state house land in high and middle income neighbourhoods and the concentration of state houses in lower income areas.

When confronted by the housing catastrophe for low and middle income tenants and families government spokespeople have created a smokescreen of bluff and bluster.

As I pointed out earlier, despite the 25,000 on the state house waiting list (up from 5,000 when Labour came to power in 2017) the government’s plan is to keep the total number of state houses at just 3.6% of the total housing stock (In 1990 it was 5.6%) and by selling crown land to fund state house building, the government doesn’t have to put in a cent.

When Labour came to power in 2017 we had 63,315 state houses – as at June this year we have 69,509. An average increase of just over 1200 per year for the 25,000 on the state house waiting list!

Labour cares as little as National about low and middle income citizens when it comes to housing. Any claim to the contrary is simply untrue.

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  1. But but but, our Prime Minister says her government has built more state houses than since the 70’s. And she’s right but our tricky PM is only half telling the truth. Again.

    Yes they have built state houses and yes the new ones are superior to the originals but on no section of course. Yet in the true world…they also sold and demolished almost as many. But they’ve made plenty in fiscal gains!

    And yet they are so concerned about privatisation that they have just passed a semi super majority clause in the 5 Waters legislation to attempt to stop the next government scrapping it. But selling land dedicated to social housing to private developers is sweet as? Labour and the Greens are just so confusing, aren’t they?

    Let’s just agree that Labours social housing policy starts and ends with Fenton St!

    Fantastic work again Mr Minto, on applying transparency to this opaque government.

    • It’s about housing density, and having more than one priority. Existing state homes can be demolished and an increased amount of new state homes can be built on a smaller footprint. Freed up land that is sold to developers enables construction of homes for the private market. Both public and residential stocks increase, and both are measures that governments are judged on. Clearing the state housing waiting list might not be a vote winner for those struggling to attain their own home. Nor would it be for the surrounding neighbourhoods if all the land was used only for intensified state homes, or “ghettos”.

      • You are right Bob. National and Labour are dishonest on housing. The only difference being that National manipulated the waiting list.

        • And Wheel, despite complaining at the time about the Nats manipulating the waiting list, Labour never ever fixed to what it had been, they left it as the Nats had put it.

  2. Explains a lot and how my rent went up 10% in one hit, and literally doubled over about a six to seven year period (Tauranga). Shocking shame on all the governments.

  3. Not everyone on the waiting list deserves a house. First, need to separate the violent criminals who make life difficult for their neighborhood, from the list. Next how many had more than 3 complaints from their neighbors? These people do not deserve a state home! Maybe a 1 way ticket to an isolated island, where they can grow own food, will be sufficient for them.

    Why should good tax paying citizens pay to house and feed the ungrateful, when there is never an appreciation, but instead get dumped on! The rights of this criminal elements appear to supersede the rights of tax payers to live peacefully.

    • Benny it’s apparent this Labour Government favours criminals over law abiding citizens.
      Ram raids and robberies of local Dairies just 2 examples.

      • Well Bob, National care so much about youth criminals they want to pay Richard Simmons to get them fit before they get back out on the streets

    • Benny please remember this is a government of caring and sharing the offenders need a big hug and lots of love and a big smile

    • Agree. I don’t think these anti social tenants should be housed by the state. They are making decent people with few resources lives hell.

      Do you have a particular island In mind? I would provide shelter for them and send in food supplies, but after that they are on their own. They have broken the social contract.

    • Why should good tax paying citizens pay to house and feed the ungrateful? Because we can and because it makes society and all of us who live in it better off. Taking care of others is the absolute best thing you can do as a human being and you don’t need a thank you note or special praise for doing it.
      Paying taxes is how we keep things ticking over, it’s how we bring about generational change and lift living standards over time. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

      • Thanks Peter some semblance of rationality in this debate.

        Do people really think treating worse than we would treat an animal an okay thing. We know why people join gangs, to feel a part of something, something they have never had before. I wonder how many watched the Sunday programme much of it done in a prison. I get these people who have been on the scrap heap.

        • So send your adress to the housing department and say you are happy to have their unruly tenents move next door to you .

          • Childish comment Trevor.

            I have said to lots of people a person coming out of prison who is a pedophile can live next door to me, but I would want to know so that I can protect my mokopuna and other children.

            These people have to live somewhere.

    • all very well benny if that gets you tingly in the trouser dept…BUTTTTT that would still leave a massive shortfall…and in reply to the usual simpletons tax argument…do you personally use any infrastructure that was paid for ‘from other peoples money’?

      I agree to the extent shithouse tenants should be evicted…let renting in the private sector be their punishment

      • They have already had that punishment speaking from experience and as a role model state housing tenant the private sector can be more racist than HNZ use to be

  4. The last 30 years of voting has seen Labour slowly transform away from the working mans party to a party that represents business and the rich more than the voter base they traditionally catered to.
    Every time we got National would see working conditions erode but then we have Labour who spend all their 9 year terms dragging their heels to even correct what was changed even slightly.
    This last Labour govt I dont even recognise as left wing at all. They did a review into poverty then sat on the results. Handed a medicinal cannabis scheme to corporations, Its taken nearly till the end of their second term to introduce Fair Pay Agreements that will be gone by lunchtime as soon as National gets back in, done nothing about the housing market, our hospitals are still run down, the rest of the public service is also run down.

    • Well sort of except for the fact that there is some fairly dense housing about 300 meters away (at most) from the Asquith Ave site on the other side of the rail line. That is Mt Albert too John.

  5. What we really need is ice cream, pot and cuddles. What we also need is a bold approach to the idiot induced mass psychoses of cramming people into logical fallacy cities to exploit them by #A Their very presence ( I.e. ramping up house prices so’s banksters can sell us our money back to us.) and #B by enslaving people in worthless ‘jobs’ where they become Hamster-fied on a perpetual tread mill until a brief retirement ( Read a period of terror/fear/sickness/illness/ farting, wrinkled ugliness ( Don’t ask me how I know that.) / hideous clothing/ annoying grand children/ then merciful death.
    The terminally wondrous Sir Tim Shadbolt raced off to Ireland to see what they were getting up to back in the day and came back to Invers with a free polytech idea. SIT was born, Invercargill made a last gasp and recovered her heart and soul and now dear old Invercargill has a strong little heart beat again. ( And getting stronger by the day, I must say.)
    If we didn’t have four foreign owned banks stealing our wealth to the tune of billions in net profits annually by rorting us suckers, if we didn’t nurture the tumours who are the now nine ‘entrepreneurial’ multi billionaires sporting the money they made from the blatant theft of our taxes paid for stuff and things we could all afford to do A Tim Shadbolt. Lets populate the countryside and start growing regeneratively!
    Get people out of the cities because they cities are fucked and are only going to get more fuckeder.
    Electric rail, electric cars, solar, wind, tide generators. Free 3 d printed housing, free medical, free dental, free education. Lets try that instead of re trying the disastrous cluster fuckery of the lunatic, psychotic, sociopathic, psychopathic, narcissistic, egomaniacal money fiddler cliques of our absurdist cities who’s real value is less that nil. Literally.

    • CB, I’ll spot you a hearty hug and raise you one. You’re posts are wonderful. Don’t stop sharing. We’re Kiwis- we’ve got this. Don’t stop everyone- we’re in it now so let’s get it done eh? All hearts on deck and let’s turn it around. Come on, I am…

    • What’s to say I’m Right? They are as bad National then? Its f*cking laughable that National diehards take a judgemental position on this issue.

  6. Yes, Labour is guilty too when I applied for State housing in 1981 in Lower Hutt the application form asked us where we want to live or prefer to live. I ticked central Lower Hutt and when I got interviewed by the person in charge of this role, he/she would always say you won’t get a house there and try and push me to live in Pomare or Cannon Creek Porirua in one of those big ugly blocks now mostly knocked down. Such was the racism and discrimination in state agencies. Now who ended up in the nice areas and were eventually able to purchase the houses they were allocated. This is yet another example of white privilege and the blatant racist practices of the state.

  7. It’s a Catch 22.

    Do you sell a property in multi-million dollar areas and use that windfall to purchase 5 cheaper properties and develop them, or develop one property in (insert high end suburb here)?

    Common sense and thinking of the poor suffering tax payer you’d think selling the expensive property so we could house 5 families rather than one makes more sense.

    Unless you have access to that money tree that Grant does.

    • People only need one property – the family home that they are living in and intend to live in long term according to employment etc whatever. Maybe also the traditional family bach. No one needs to own five residential properties. No one should be allowed to buy a property in nz and then fluff off and leave it empty.

      • I agree RosieLee. Remember the wealthy Gareth Morgan he has eight houses empty saving them for capital gain, this simply should not be allowed. Morgan himself thought the law was nuts.

      • Spoken as a real left winger it is a sin to have ambition and all those who want to rent have to go through the state so you can be vetted . I hear Russia is in need of new residents to replace all those killed trying to invade a neighbour

      • Rosie where would people live if there were no private landlords – who would provide the accommodation?
        As John points out state houses currently make up only 3.6% of the total NZ housing stock.
        My wife and I purchased a rental property twelve years before our recent retirement after working hard all our lives. We love our tenants and look after them.
        The extra money giving us a great retirement where we can travel to see our children and grandchildren and have reliable cars etc.
        This is a good thing and I would encourage everyone to work hard to achieve it.

        • Tell me how hard you’ve worked. I hear this crap all the time. Work on a rubbish truck picking up your discards for 21.50 an hour and then buy a house. You hardworking couple wouldn’t last a block!

          • KJ physical work is great when you’re young and fit but often doesn’t pay well as you say.
            Don’t give up – it is possible to save a deposit if you are determined.
            My neighbours son and his partner are saving a deposit for a house and both are working second jobs.
            He is delivering takeaways for Uber after his day job and claims to make $50 an hour when busy and she is washing dishes in a restaurant 3 nights a week..

        • The point in many people’s minds Scott is that if we had the safety net of state housing still available, private landlords would have a place in housing provision but not be little capital accretors holding others on low wages to ransom. You conveniently overlook this in your comment.

          • Grey I believe welfare and housing used to be a safety net and that this was the original intention.
            But today it has become acceptable to choose not to work even if you can and to expect the government to provide your living expenses and your accommodation.

            • Acceptable not to work, ridiculous comment and simply not true.

              So you will be voting for a government that says we will have full employment (retaining sickness, disability and ACC.

              And then we can scrap the unemployment benefit. But these jobs need to be real and pay properly.

              • Michal I’m not saying we should scrap the benefit – but only pay it to those unable to find a job.
                There are currently approx 100k people who are ready to work on the jobseeker benefit.
                Every business seems to need workers.
                My local supermarket has a board outside begging for workers and if you work hard you will get promoted and earn more.

                • low unemployment so the answer for numbers ‘on a benefit’ is that their wages are so low they are still entitled to help…blame employers the usual mbenny bashing doesn’t cut it this time scott

      • That’s right, all those bloody kulaks should be shipped off too the Auckland Islands and left to rot in hell. How dare anyone have more than me!

  8. The only difference John is that under National, the state house sell off was front page news for years. Jacinda comes to power and the MSM has nothing to say about it until recently. Whether you are a NAtTs or Labour supporter it certainly doesnt pass the sniff test.

    I despise the current government and their pretend Labour party, they are so far from governing for all NZers they should be impeached if we had such a thing.

  9. Well if we keep voting in the same two parties we can only blame ourselves for what is essentially a self inflicted housing crisis.

  10. What good info John M. Thank you for bringing this housing information to the fore. It is in effect on a par with the loss of the commons in England.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_land

    Why ever did so many English and Scottish come here and relax,thinking they had found Godzone (when we got some unapproved devilment out)? To turn round and carry forward this sort of thing shows that one must remain sharp and wary of backsliding in oneself and others, for fear of smiling assassins, or the state is cut down and you’re just left with the ass.

    And it seems to me that the state is giving its faulty systems Maori names for a sort of positive brownwash that will deter us from critiquing what’s going on, and will lead any blame from gummint towards Maori aspirations for co-governance. Perception will build against them. Some people are ready to downgrade anything Maori. You might say our politicians aren’t that malicious but after Douglas et al and the Great Act of Treasonable Exchange (Gategate) we should be wised up.

    Common land background:
    Monbiot – https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/19/pandemic-right-to-roam-england

    https://www.thelandmagazine.org.uk/articles/short-history-enclosure-britain

    http://www.andywightman.com/docs/secur_comm8.pdf (Common Land in Scotland)

    Still debated 1954 – https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1954-05-14/debates/046549c3-3855-413a-89d2-8f6a93c66cb7/DerelictCommonLand

  11. Spoken as a real left winger it is a sin to have ambition and all those who want to rent have to go through the state so you can be vetted . I hear Russia is in need of new residents to replace all those killed trying to invade a neighbour

    • Tell me Trevor,
      Compare and contrast the pre school numbers and treatment of children in the USSR between 1955 and 1975 and in Auckland between 2007 and today.

  12. There is a huge need in New Zealand to house people, families in particular. These families, on two incomes but both are only around about the minimum wage, simply cannot afford the $600 a week rent, $250 in groceries, and $100 weekly fuel without making regular sacrifices. Power is still high in New Zealand compared to a lot of other western countries; schools are charging more in fees, uniform costs, etc. Then there’s insurance which is costly and should be considered a must-have in today’s age. Then the irregular items like WoF’s, car and home maintenance, car registration. What is left for those on low to medium incomes for savings?

  13. Trust you, John.

    I heard, from just one source, housing has increased markedly under their watch.

    I despise us going on and on not delivering to the neediest, these thirty-eight years. I remember going to One Selwyn Rd on Napier Hill to collect the paper bill as a kid in the seventies. They never answered the door but they furiously supported Labour at elections. The poor know who Labour is now better than the stomached middle class..

  14. we don’t need starter homes for middle class 1st time buyers…we need shitloads of 1 or 2 person state housing units.

    • And state housing units that have designated areas for different sorts of people – the quiet elderly, the quiet disabled with wheelchair access, the rough and ready for a go, with concrete walls and shuttered windows, little glass, family groups sorted by self-control, if people want to express themselves and every emotion at any time, give them their own little piece of hell. And there will be places for people trying to live a satisfactory, happy life amongst similar others, not just feel thay are in a people dump despised by government. the PTB and their often evil goblin servants.

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