As TDB has been pointing out, the Māori Party are the King/Queen Maker and the latest Roy Morgan Poll backs this up…
National – 35% (down 4)
ACT – 11% (up 1)
Labour – 34% (up .5)
Greens – 10.5% (up .5)
Māori Party – 4% (up.1.5)
…as TDB argued, Luxon has hit his glass ceiling and National crashes 4 points while ACT and the Māori Party are at their highest ever levels.
Despite never ending negative mainstream media coverage of the Health crisis and attacks on the Government, Labour went up.
Seymour is a far better politician than Luxon and he is finally reaping that harvest while Māori are watching the Right denigrate them over co-governance and are alarmed at the rising ocean of feral anti-Māori sentiment so are tactically voting to see Labour returned with an even stronger mandate for Māori.
Kiwis are egalitarian at heart. Key knew this and so always dressed down, but Luxon believes in prosperity religion so dimming his wealth would be a slight against Jesus. Luxon appealed to people’s pain in the cost of living crisis and then once he had manipulated that pain, flew to a holiday in Hawaii while his social media pretended he was in Te Puke.
Kiwi’s don’t like having their economic pain manipulated by a person who isn’t impacted by that economic pain while he suns himself in Hawaii.
Kiwi’s might be hurting economically but they aren’t stupid!
As TDB has been pointing out since the beginning off the year, 2023 will be fought on who the country fear’s most, a National/ACT Government or a Labour/Green/Māori Party Government.
Any sense of triumphalism the Right may have had seems terribly misplaced.
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Come this time next year, when the much promised, much vaunted, much hyped plans of Luxon’s National Party are finally revealed and inevitably turn out to be a fizzer Labour will be back on 45% and National back under 30% where they belong.
They are beyond hopeless led by yet another hopeless leader clearly out of his depth despite all the mentoring he’s been getting and clearly they have nothing to offer but to wheel out the tired old tax cuts policy once again.
Hosking followers, being the sheep that they are, of course will nod at each other in blind agreement with everything he and Luxon says…..the rest of N.Z now know that they were conned by Key and his coterie of crooks will not be fooled again..
100 percent wrong. In another year more lies and missteps will be revealed and Jacinda will be out on her ear
Gosh Trevor you have fallen down the Bob rabbit hole, you really have. Let’s just wait and see shall we.
I do not think I have and I try not to indulge in personal attacks but I get tired of Keys government being called crooks and Luxon condemned because of his success in becoming wealthy. When did legally becoming successful become so bad .How many on the left would take an enormous pay cut to fulfill a dream?
I am more inclined to have an arguement based on facts and at this point in the game I feel the facts show a government in denial and with no real plan going forward. I know you and others think differently and that is where I try to do my debating . The next 12 months are going to be an interesting period . May the best party win.
I think when you claim that others are 100 % wrong Trevor you open yourself up. Teachers have had a salary increase, houses are being built, personally have had a 10% increase, there has been a cost of living payment made, mental health facilities in a prison environment have been built, increase in minimum wage and benefits.
No real plan going forward is a generalisation that fits your narrative. Plenty of things are happening and still in the pipeline. You will only see sensationalism in the media as they don’t sweat the small and medium stuff.
I don’t care at all that Luxon is wealthy, good luck to him,but I do care that this government cares for all N.Zers. Just because he’s wealthy doesn’t make him an instant politician.
Are the wealthy worse off under Labour? No!
Are the less wealthy better off under Labour? Most definitely!
Whether that transfers to votes as you day remains to be seen.
And yes the next 12 months are going to be great viewing, first up, more of Tamaki’s money making protests.
Turn on the sprinklers Trevor. And get off the fence (or the slide) and say what you really think of Collins, and Muller and Bridges and that rental mogul guy from the church that is emigrating to Hawaii soon? Aloha!
Say what you really think, to the tune of Barry Manilow’s “Can’t smile” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISI4TpWyIyg
Mallard, would be too obvious.
Speaker would be too obvious.
Your pseudonym “Trevor” just adds that little bit of “je ne sais quoi?”
By the way, thanks for taking my advice on the Barry Manilow songs Trevor, an epic received-Mallardism, to try and cure the malady at Parliament Grounds, the same way malls got rid of ne’er-do-wells at malls”
Maybe we need bank of 150 watt speakers playing Barry outside stores that have been ram-raided at least once?
There were some sinister goings-on behind the scenes Trevor. Enjoy your new sinecure, and keep contributing here at TDB, I always enjoy your dry wit.
The best party Trevor?
You mean the lessor of two evils?…
100% right Grant.
7 houses Luxon or 7 houses enricher Jacinda? Both seem grubby.
A disturbing poll for sure.
No surprises here
This guy is toast – wheres Nicola?
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/christopher-luxon-says-government-has-lost-the-plot-lashes-out-over-cost-of-living-payment-issues.html
I think anything could happen!
But for the sake of the longer term running of NZ, can some one ask what sort of society NZ wants.
Seen it all, a doctor who now identifies as trans, working in NZ, convicted for multiple sexual abuse on his/her patients, in denial and currently in a NZ prison!!!
Seriously, out of the billions of people in the world, NZ keeps attracting these f**ker’s! Something is VERY wrong with NZ’s immigration criteria to assess good character, and select mentally stable people who can positively work in NZ without victimising others. (Maybe offshoring immigration to highly corrupt countries call centres and having woke committees everywhere setting bizarre policy, is not helping.)
Exclusive: Doctor who stupefied then sexually assaulted patients deported to Malaysia
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/exclusive-doctor-who-stupefied-then-sexually-assaulted-patients-deported-to-malaysia/W54ZLW3EWJ3CCZKWXYOHMV63YQ/
This is on the back of the South African doctor in a mental facility after the alleged murder of her 3 kids and another doctor who was trained in NZ after moving here as a child who then goes on to murder a teenager before being convicted and committing suicide in a NZ prison.
Meanwhile after a pandemic and 200,000+ applications for more bizarre, high needs choices to live in NZ we still haven’t got around to training more domestic doctors as NZ seems to prefer an identity based approach to medical selection rather than looking for those who are going to be stable enough and have a long period of supervised training in NZ and have good character, to do the job!
NZ’s long term economic policy for decades now is to save pennies while creating billions of dollars in social disruption in NZ via a bums on seats, ‘identity’ based high needs people who are so enabled they seem to be empowered into their woke/criminal fantasies here, while denying victims safety in NZ.
Even going to the doctor or mall is becoming a non safe place. In addition NZ seems to be leading a country with declining professional services and skills across the board.
I think Natz will be worse, but is there anyone out to stop Labeen and the NZ media in their woke enablement which seems to be empowering many (in particular teens and youth) to do what ever they want. Ok Boomer, is starting to get more sinister.
The trial for the brutal gutting and murder of Invercargill teenager Jack McAllister occurred in 2018 and was conducted by a group of woke warriors who decided McAllister was guilty of sexual harassment and as punishment, this team of woke warriors decided to trick him to a location and butcher him because you know, heteronormative white cis male patriarchy hashtag MeToo…
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/08/01/mediawatch-nzs-first-woke-murder-deserves-far-better-than-the-lumbering-journalism-of-anna-leask/
You know normally NZ media would be all overs such a bizarre murder of a teenager, but weird, somehow nothing, teens killing unsafe teens is ok?????…….. NZ media is more interested in outraged headlines of cops who cry when verbally abused at the school gate.
What National and Luxon lying?
Nòòoooooooooooooo!
Yikes.
If this is a repeatable trend going in to next year, the Australian population is going to go up by about 3 million.
Be interesting to see if it’s an outlier or not.
And the IQ of both countries will increase.
You must have left Auckland City out of your little interlectual day dream.
I didn’t know Tamaki had 3 million followers. We”ll get them back as 501’s.
I do not think I have and I try not to indulge in personal attacks but I get tired of Keys government being called crooks and Luxon condemned because of his success in becoming wealthy. When did legally becoming successful become so bad .How many on the left would take an enormous pay cut to fulfill a dream?
I am more inclined to have an arguement based on facts and at this point in the game I feel the facts show a government in denial and with no real plan going forward. I know you and others think differently and that is where I try to do my debating . The next 12 months are going to be an interesting period . May the best party win.
The only chance of the Maori party going with National is without ACT being part of that government given Seymours separatism and outspoken views on Maori.
Chris Luxon isn’t saleable like John Key was. John Key appealed to the everyday voter, then blew apart their brains by implementing narrow conservative policies and diminishing budgets in key areas such as health and education.
Nicola Willis can’t sell herself either. She is supposed to be representing one of the two major political parties they we have in this country, yet she fails to inspire. It is sad indeed. We don’t need this. We’re trying to come out of three pandemic years, what? to be greeted by halfwits? Seriously, it’s not cool.
The other alternative is Jacinda Ardern who has the necessary experience, knowledge, connections, power, intelligence, charm, dignity, poise, and dedication.
Yes agree with ya Dan especially with your Jacinda comments. I think Bill E should have stayed for one more tilt at leadership I am no National supporter but I do believe it is important to have decent opposition to keep the incumbent in check. At the moment I cannot see anyone in National who fits good leadership BUT there will be someone out there they just have to find them. In the meantime National is shedding experience do they know something or are they simply deserting a sinking ship.
Can’t disagree with any of that except to say that the snake oil salesman had teflon ability, Luxon doesn’t.
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