Oh. My. God.
Could James Shaw’s luck get any worse than this?
Government douses its proposal to limit exotic forests
A Government proposal to limit permanent exotic forests has been left to rot, according to a letter from the Climate Change Minister.
Earlier this year, the Government proposed that exotic trees in permanent forests would not be eligible to earn and sell carbon units.
Rural communities and the Climate Change Commission are key opponents of exotic planting. But because planting pine could be hugely profitable, foresters and landowners – including Māori leaders – vehemently opposed the suggestion.
A letter from Climate Change Minister James Shaw indicates the latter group has been, at least partially, successful. From next year, owners of permanent exotic forest are likely to be able to sell the carbon absorbed by their trees under the Emissions Trading Scheme (or ETS).
Right when his leadership and incrementalism is being challenged, here he is capitulating to Māori Capitalism to allow them off the hook by growing a weed like pine everywhere hilariously damaging the very environment those very same Māori interests claim such a spiritual connection to.
We should have bought these interests out and forced through the changes because you can’t allow Pine to spread all over the country like a virus in an attempt to find a solution to the climate crisis.
I’m all for growing trees, I totally support any process where Trees are being planted, but there has to be a lions share mix of domestic tress in that planting because Pine causes vast problems.
For a Political Party that is now little more than a vehicle for middle class identity politics, celebrating Māori identity trumps Gaia because ultimately the Greens see Capitalism that factors in the price of pollution as the market solution.
By capitulating to Māori Capitalism, James Shaw proves why he should be rolled .
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BMW Jimmy is no match for Mahutacorp. Nobody in government is.
true that.
dwell done in daring to point out the double talk of Maori. If a scheme is driven by pakeha itvis bad but if driven by Maori it is ok .Just our side Chch a forest next to a river owned by Maori was pulled out and a dirty dairy farm was put in its place
Trevor. I agree, many do. That’s terrible about the uprooted Canterbury forest. Any chance of naming it please ? It’s an area which I once knew well, and am trying to picture.
Eyrewell Forest is being converted to dairy and Balmoral,to beef farming . They wanted to convert Balmoral to dairy but failed to get water concent from ECAN.
Like society in general the actions do not fit with the message .
Trevor. Thanks for replying. I’m surprised they’re inflicting more dairying on Canterbury, and stunned at the forest vandalism ; not 100% sure where Balmoral is – or was; may check it out.
Trevor, Thank God Ngai Tahu can’t get near the black forests of Germany, the primeval forgets of Poland, or lovely Balmoral itself – money grubbing hypocrites who pontificate about spiritual connections to the land with, it seems to me, callous disregard for the future of everything.
Maori didn’t bring pine here but the issue is about our government telling Maori what to do with their own land. And given Maori have very little prime land due to theft and confiscation from our governments I suggest Pakeha butt out of this one and MYOB.
You rattle on about governmnets, then say Pakeha should but out.
So only pakeha MPS should but out while MPs with maori decent should decide.
Remind me what you are smoking
Maori don’t view land the same as pakeha. We’ve never believed in borders. Land isn’t disconnected just because there’s oceans on top. We are one people.
Don’t forget all the land Māori sold…
Rob’s Mob “Don’t forget…land Maori sold”, and stole from each other, and slaughtered each other for, and sold without mandate for, in the idyllic past.
Covid Even when the tribes could do what they liked with their own land they still barbecued and ate other tribes’ babies and Pakeha got that stopped and that was nice.
Yep Maori spiritual Taonga= carbon credits=money. Pine forests are barren of NZ native birds.
“damaging the very environment those very same Māori interests claim such a spiritual connection to.”
Heresy! Surely you’re not challenging the Cult of Maaori Wonderfulness?
“By capitulating to Māori Capitalism, James Shaw proves why he should be rolled”
Of course Chloe would never have capitulated to Maaori capitalism, right?? As Trotter pointed out recently, white liberals invariably cave at the first sign of criticism from Maaori activists (or from “POC” activists in general), because they’re desperate to prove their anti-racist credentials.
The text appears to say exotic, not pine.
Not all exotics are weeds, nor undesirable. If the problem is vast mono culture plantations of certain varieties of pine and conifer, then any legislation would better served by being specific to species and open to modification if required.
It’s to dry
Greens have always had a problem with Maori and their culture which has not moved forward with time at the same pace as Western society. The treatment t of women as inferior not being able to speak and sitting at the back of the group is an example of the quandary they face . It is up to Maori when and what they change but at some time they will have to decide when they will join the 21st century
Greens have always had a problem with Maori and their culture which has not moved forward with time at the same pace as Western society. The treatment t of women as inferior not being able to speak and sitting at the back of the group is an example of the quandary they face . It is up to Maori when and what they change but at some time they will have to decide when they will join the 21st century
That is like the Green School that got funds that were a loan…….blablabla.
May they all retire.
Owners of pine plantations need to be made responsible for wilding pines originating from their trees; we need to build in the total costs of land exploitation and stop letting corporations leave taxpayers to clean-up the consequences.
Understand that who ever (Chloe) will be given a hospital pass. Who ever will be relatively inexperienced, leading a relatively inexperienced raabel at a time when we need a new Green leader to turn the ship around.
Let’s look wider. Greens have one electoral seat and it’s far from safe. The greens don’t have a record of retaining electrical seats. Arguably Chloe won her electorate seat on the hype of marijuana reform so are the Greens winning that part of the campaign.
What else do they need to win to turn it all around?
It’s a big step up going from the local media circuit to the national circuit let alone walking the international stage with your head held high and it’s all about creating momentum from the ground up and top down.
Don’t fuck around.
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