Now Groundswell have hooked up with the AntiVaxxers, the racist 3 waters mob and Qanon, shouldn’t their protest movement get some scrutiny?
How is Jacinda the Communist when it’s farmers driving tractors made in China from baby milk formula THEY are selling to the Chinese?
Farmers are angry that their traditional political sugar daddy – the National Party, no longer have the power to rule the country for them.
When Key was PM, he nationalized water hydro and used the proceeds to create a $400million irrigation slush fund for Farmers to intensify dairy.
Many were trapped by the banks in intensification debt and they are furious the party is over.
The vast majority of our current dairy export is basic milk powder which is pumped into the manufactured food industry.
Any reduction in price via a cheaper synthetic milk product and our dairy exports would crash.
The technology and investment into synthetic milk and meat research means it’s just a matter of time before that cost and carbon footprint comes plummeting down.
I’m not ruling out a dairy industry altogether. Organic farming that feeds the 5million here plus our obligations as Whānau to the wider pacific but not the 40million others!
We don’t need mass investment into synthetics ourselves, we just need to stop selling Dairy to everyone else!
Why should kiwis who already put up with corporate farmers polluting our water and increasing global warming gasses ALSO pay global prices for their product?
How outrageous is it that on top of all this we allow a legal monopoly in the form of Fonterra?
The water pollution, climate crises worsening gases AND we pay the same global price corporate Farmers can get on a global market of 40million others while putting up with a monopoly?
As a monopolistic collective, isn’t Fonterra more socialist than Jacinda?
Farming Capitalists are selfish socialists.
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Along with polluting our rivers and poisoning the NZ people with nitrates. It would be interesting to get a chemical analysis of the Auckland water drawn out of the Waikato River ?
Trump has landed.
We don’t have a Trump like figure to gravitate towards. The tall poppy syndrome that Stefan alludes to previously saves his bacon here.
It would be very interesting if John ‘rugby’ Key decided to stoke his ego and re-enter the game. I’d argue overnight the polls would change.
What, do you really want National ratings to go through the floorboards, down through the basement and end up in China???… I suppose Judith wouldn’t mind but hell !
In any functioning democracy you at least need an opposition !
Geez I thought you would have at least understood that , Frank !!!
Ummm can’t agree..
The whole Cindy thing is just a little sad.
Maybe they need their trichophilia man back.
They obviously can’t feel safe, unless they have a man in charge as perverted and as openly greedy as themselves.
Ignatius. Just imagine a mature society, where decent men turn their backs on males who torment poor were workers with pony tails. Fact is, New Zealand so-called males, are world leaders in abusing and killing women and children.
“Now Groundswell have hooked up with the AntiVaxxers, the racist 3 waters mob and Qanon”
and
MAGA protesters.
What a con. Perhaps these are the types whom are real dole bludgers, the ones that can work but feel like their rights are being taken away if they are made to work for their dole?
And why is it that none of them actually look like they have any intellect?
The easily influenced I guess? Must admit, I’ve been vulnerable to some of the manipulate bullshit at times. Deeply manipulative bullshit. It can be difficult to discern at times https://www.webworm.co/p/capitolriots
Yeah and if we were communist those protestors would have got shot. To see trump shite there yesterday says a lot about some of the wayne kerrs we have living in our country. As for the haka mob they would be part of brian tar mikis lot making us maari look stupid.
It isn’t Trump shite. MAGA stand for Make ARdern go away
Maybe if these dickheads actually tried being reasonable, perhaps we wouldn’t have to treat them like petulant children. Welcome to the 21st century.
It’s a Freak Show, too many nitrates in there drinking water.
There’s no more bigger arse kissers of Commies than the dairy industry. They can’t sell enough to the CCP Chinese Criminal Party
Almost feels like there’s a sudden relization that these protests are going to get quite large…
Vacc Mandates + Ground Swell + Three Waters makes for strange bedfellows but a helluva lot of people. Enough to put huge pressure on the govt in the midst of our first covid wave.
The govt needs to get some heat out of this and face, walk back wide spread mandates we’re going to hit 90 % and go back to the councils re three waters.
Its interesting how they’re scared to mandate police and the civil service, but happy to get teachers nurses hosp etc
End of the day if the govt entrenches itself it potentially gets very ugly. Actual extremists now have the camouflage of large numbers of people and the potential for disaster grows no one wins if that happens.
The govt must take some heat out of it.
People who turn at Parliament with nooses, need rubber bullets not policy concessions.
phasing out coal , nuclear nimby – ism , more cost effective wind / solar and big battery hydro storage
https://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/the-business/2021-11-08/the-economic-case-for-nuclear-power-still-doesnt/13622112
Three waters… I’m really looking forward to paying both for the power and the water to have a shower now. To have a drink of water I’m going to have to pay. To go to the toilet?
As if we’re not being bled dry by rents mortgages power and out of control retail and food costs
This just seems like a way to save money to pay the COVID debt by privatizing or introducing user pays.
Its been quoted much,…but here it is again,… the man in black.
God’s Gonna Cut You Down
https://youtu.be/eJlN9jdQFSc?t=4
Isn’t it a shame that you can’t eat virtue signals
Brought yo by pfizer
Soon we will be levied on the amount of sunshine we absorb and the amount of rainfall we get on our gardens.
When we talk about helping farmers from government , we actually mean land owners with farms who probably don’t even live in the country or Crafer idiot types, not traditional NZ farmers with a small land holding who are being pushed off their land.
The intensive NZ farm is mostly foreign owned or owned by a new ‘NZ citizen”, such Oceania Dairy Ltd, who recently were granted consent to pipe their cow waste water over public land into the sea as their personal cow toilet.
https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/dairy/dairy-firm-wants-ocean-wastewater-outfall
Don’t put family farms and intensive farms together, as people still need food so having farms is essential.
The problem has been allowing intensive farming to flourish in NZ, driving pollution, driving the need for cheap labour as the owners don’t farm it themselves (or live there full time) obviously, increasingly the majority of that food being exported. More intensive food production is not driving food prices down in NZ, they are going up.
I reckon synthetic milk will replace 80% of milk within a decade. The small guys will have to prove organic non intensive to keep the remaining 20%. Fonterra will implode though.
Milk is still an affordable nutritious protein. The problem is not the milk but the way the animals are being farmed intensively and over stocked.
NZ has too many cows in places like Canterbury, large parts of Southland etc
Farming is not just about cows. There are plenty of other animals and plant based farming in NZ.
And notwithstanding the amount of dairy product doing directly to landfill…
Here’s a thought. Give a season or two’s notice, then totally ban the import of palm kernel. Get stocking rates back to what the land can sustain. Earn some brownie points by doing something for the planet both here and in south east asia.
Six Foot Four. Hmm… “ Strange how many of the young seem to believe nothing happened in the world of grandfather. In fact grandfather conquered poverty as it was known, tamed much of the geographical world, fought world wars and yearned for world peace, created world organisation, went into the skies and on to the moon, helped create this world of technology, lived through a life in which change at the start was pedestrian and ended life when change was space age speed. “
John A Lee Early Days in New Zealand ( Taylor 1977.)
The Child care centres are unfortunately closed for farmers stopping them getting their kindergarten lessons in how ‘the Big World’ works when you move away from the local pub and fenceline of the green acres.
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