Communist Jacinda? Aren’t you driving a Chinese tractor paid by selling China baby milk formula you Groundswell hypocrites??

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Now Groundswell have hooked up with the AntiVaxxers, the racist 3 waters mob and Qanon, shouldn’t their protest movement get some scrutiny?

How is Jacinda the Communist when it’s farmers driving tractors made in China from baby milk formula THEY are selling to the Chinese?

Farmers are angry that their traditional political sugar daddy – the National Party, no longer have the power to rule the country for them.

When Key was PM, he nationalized water hydro and used the proceeds to create a $400million irrigation slush fund for Farmers to intensify dairy.

Many were trapped by the banks in intensification debt and they are furious the party is over.

The vast majority of our current dairy export is basic milk powder which is pumped into the manufactured food industry.

Any reduction in price via a cheaper synthetic milk product and our dairy exports would crash.

The technology and investment into synthetic milk and meat research means it’s just a matter of time before that cost and carbon footprint comes plummeting down.

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I’m not ruling out a dairy industry altogether. Organic farming that feeds the 5million here plus our obligations as Whānau to the wider pacific but not the 40million others!

We don’t need mass investment into synthetics ourselves, we just need to stop selling Dairy to everyone else!

Why should kiwis who already put up with corporate farmers polluting our water and increasing global warming gasses ALSO pay global prices for their product?

How outrageous is it that on top of all this we allow a legal monopoly in the form of Fonterra?

The water pollution, climate crises worsening gases AND we pay the same global price corporate Farmers can get on a global market of 40million others while putting up with a monopoly?

As a monopolistic collective, isn’t Fonterra more socialist than Jacinda?

Farming Capitalists are selfish socialists.

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39 COMMENTS

  1. Along with polluting our rivers and poisoning the NZ people with nitrates. It would be interesting to get a chemical analysis of the Auckland water drawn out of the Waikato River ?

    • We don’t have a Trump like figure to gravitate towards. The tall poppy syndrome that Stefan alludes to previously saves his bacon here.

      It would be very interesting if John ‘rugby’ Key decided to stoke his ego and re-enter the game. I’d argue overnight the polls would change.

      • What, do you really want National ratings to go through the floorboards, down through the basement and end up in China???… I suppose Judith wouldn’t mind but hell !

        In any functioning democracy you at least need an opposition !

        Geez I thought you would have at least understood that , Frank !!!

  2. monoculture is a risky option at all times, especially in a country with few alternative revenue streams.

    though well spotted on the tractor hypocrisy a little derision goes a long way, shame they aren’t self aware enough to know they are the joke.

  3. The whole Cindy thing is just a little sad.

    Maybe they need their trichophilia man back.

    They obviously can’t feel safe, unless they have a man in charge as perverted and as openly greedy as themselves.

    • Ignatius. Just imagine a mature society, where decent men turn their backs on males who torment poor were workers with pony tails. Fact is, New Zealand so-called males, are world leaders in abusing and killing women and children.

  4. “Now Groundswell have hooked up with the AntiVaxxers, the racist 3 waters mob and Qanon”

    and

    MAGA protesters.

    What a con. Perhaps these are the types whom are real dole bludgers, the ones that can work but feel like their rights are being taken away if they are made to work for their dole?
    And why is it that none of them actually look like they have any intellect?

    • Yeah and if we were communist those protestors would have got shot. To see trump shite there yesterday says a lot about some of the wayne kerrs we have living in our country. As for the haka mob they would be part of brian tar mikis lot making us maari look stupid.

  5. Maybe if these dickheads actually tried being reasonable, perhaps we wouldn’t have to treat them like petulant children. Welcome to the 21st century.

  6. We’ll Martyn. Unless we want to run a communist state where the state owns the land and dictates the price the farmer gets for produce and then sells the produce to the people at a price that only just exceeds the value of the produce, I suggest you stop criticising Fonterra. It’s a business. Ask any environmentally friendly farm whether it wants to discount its produce to local buyers and see what answer you get. They’ll laugh at you. You can buy produce at farmers markets at cheaper prices sometimes because the farmer carts the stuff there himself. It earns the country sweet fuck all. Won’t pay for fixing the pot holes or replacing the sewer pipes. By the way the Tractor in the pic is a Case. Made in the USA.

  7. There’s no more bigger arse kissers of Commies than the dairy industry. They can’t sell enough to the CCP Chinese Criminal Party

  8. Almost feels like there’s a sudden relization that these protests are going to get quite large…

    Vacc Mandates + Ground Swell + Three Waters makes for strange bedfellows but a helluva lot of people. Enough to put huge pressure on the govt in the midst of our first covid wave.

    The govt needs to get some heat out of this and face, walk back wide spread mandates we’re going to hit 90 % and go back to the councils re three waters.

    Its interesting how they’re scared to mandate police and the civil service, but happy to get teachers nurses hosp etc

    End of the day if the govt entrenches itself it potentially gets very ugly. Actual extremists now have the camouflage of large numbers of people and the potential for disaster grows no one wins if that happens.

    The govt must take some heat out of it.

  9. Three waters… I’m really looking forward to paying both for the power and the water to have a shower now. To have a drink of water I’m going to have to pay. To go to the toilet?

    As if we’re not being bled dry by rents mortgages power and out of control retail and food costs

    This just seems like a way to save money to pay the COVID debt by privatizing or introducing user pays.

  10. When we talk about helping farmers from government , we actually mean land owners with farms who probably don’t even live in the country or Crafer idiot types, not traditional NZ farmers with a small land holding who are being pushed off their land.

    The intensive NZ farm is mostly foreign owned or owned by a new ‘NZ citizen”, such Oceania Dairy Ltd, who recently were granted consent to pipe their cow waste water over public land into the sea as their personal cow toilet.
    https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/dairy/dairy-firm-wants-ocean-wastewater-outfall

    Don’t put family farms and intensive farms together, as people still need food so having farms is essential.

    The problem has been allowing intensive farming to flourish in NZ, driving pollution, driving the need for cheap labour as the owners don’t farm it themselves (or live there full time) obviously, increasingly the majority of that food being exported. More intensive food production is not driving food prices down in NZ, they are going up.

    • I reckon synthetic milk will replace 80% of milk within a decade. The small guys will have to prove organic non intensive to keep the remaining 20%. Fonterra will implode though.

      • Milk is still an affordable nutritious protein. The problem is not the milk but the way the animals are being farmed intensively and over stocked.

        NZ has too many cows in places like Canterbury, large parts of Southland etc

        Farming is not just about cows. There are plenty of other animals and plant based farming in NZ.

  11. Here’s a thought. Give a season or two’s notice, then totally ban the import of palm kernel. Get stocking rates back to what the land can sustain. Earn some brownie points by doing something for the planet both here and in south east asia.

  12. Just bought ‘boring oat milk’ from supermarket. NZ product. Same price as other lines. Great packaging. delicious. The future. Groundswell (like John Key) represent the past. Cracks me up the as the population ages, there seems to me more and more grumpy old people about demanding everything be put back the way it was in the good old days. Hell, isn’t that national party policy at the moment? Meanwhile the young live with what the good old days have produced (poisoned water, poisoned land, poisoned politics, poisoned social discourse. poisoned housing market etc etc) and they protest while the old shake their heads and grumble at the ungratefulness of youth. The elderly gods of opinion are Hosking, Garner, Richardson, HDPA, Soper et al pushing the line that only national is the natural party of ‘good’ govt no matter what the evidence of the past shows. But age does bring shortsightedness I suppose.

    • SFF. I too use boring oat milk because it’s produced here but don’t think for one minute it doesn’t come with an environmental cost. Most likely not much better than milk. The growth of this product with the increased land use involved to grow the oats, the amounts of fertilisers that will be required. The releasing of carbon from tilled soils and the machinery and diesel that will be used along with possible irrigation means no food replacement is necessarily better than what’s already being used. Let’s not let our dislike of dairy get in the way all the facts.

  13. Six Foot Four. Hmm… “ Strange how many of the young seem to believe nothing happened in the world of grandfather. In fact grandfather conquered poverty as it was known, tamed much of the geographical world, fought world wars and yearned for world peace, created world organisation, went into the skies and on to the moon, helped create this world of technology, lived through a life in which change at the start was pedestrian and ended life when change was space age speed. “

    John A Lee Early Days in New Zealand ( Taylor 1977.)

    • The young know exactly what happened in the world of the Grandfather. He entrenched poverty rather than conquering it, subjugated the geographical world, went to war out of adventure, misplaced patriotism or fear of imprisonment, most returning after in total disillusionment, scarred physically and mentally to a land that was not fit for heroes, yearned for peace while happy to fight proxy wars in the name of capitalism or communism causing untold death and destruction, created international organisations designed to stifle the very advances they promote because of self interest, went into the skies and onto the moon while those on the ground complained of rats biting their babies, created a world of technology that seems hell bent on dividing us all into consumer groups ripe for commerce over compassion. But I guess the young should get on their knees and thank all the elderly (each and every one) whether they had a hand in all the above or not. Me, I am not far away from retirement but am aghast at the demand for a return to the good old days of an English speaking colonial power structure where those that don’t conform to the ‘good old days’ stereotype are vilified for caring. ‘Your sons and your daughters aren’t yours to command’ Bob Dylan.

  14. The young know exactly what happened in the world of the Grandfather. He entrenched poverty rather than conquering it, subjugated the geographical world, went to war out of adventure, misplaced patriotism or fear of imprisonment, most returning after in total disillusionment, scarred physically and mentally to a land that was not fit for heroes, yearned for peace while happy to fight proxy wars in the name of capitalism or communism causing untold death and destruction, created international organisations designed to stifle the very advances they promote because of self interest, went into the skies and onto the moon while those on the ground complained of rats biting their babies, created a world of technology that seems hell bent on dividing us all into consumer groups ripe for commerce over compassion. But I guess the young should get on their knees and thank all the elderly (each and every one) whether they had a hand in all the above or not. Me, I am not far away from retirement but am aghast at the demand for a return to the good old days of an English speaking colonial power structure where those that don’t conform to the ‘good old days’ stereotype are vilified for caring. ‘Your sons and your daughters aren’t yours to command’ Bob Dylan.

  15. Nothing hypocritical about the farmers.

    They are opposing what is happening here in NZ rightly or wrongly.

    The fact that they sell to a foreign government that they see rightly or wrongly to have the same ideology as the NZ government is irrelevant. Because that foreign government is not dictating to New Zealanders how they should run New Zealand.

    For example one can resolutely oppose the implementation of Sharia law here in New Zealand, while selling butter and mutton to Saudi Arabia? But there is no hypocrisy here. Because opposing Sharia law in New Zealand means just that – opposing it in New Zealand, but not the rest of the world.

    Similarly with China – one could oppose implementing a Chinese style political system over here, without having any view or being completely indifferent to how the Chinese rule China and happy to sell to them. Nothing wrong with that.

    • Nothing hypocritical you say. Think freedom marches in China . Ironically these are called freedom marches however if we weren’t a free country do you think these people would be able to march at all.

  16. The Child care centres are unfortunately closed for farmers stopping them getting their kindergarten lessons in how ‘the Big World’ works when you move away from the local pub and fenceline of the green acres.

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