RNZ believed Manus Island Staff – but why should we?

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An odd bit of state propaganda popped up on Radio NZ last week. They interviewed a ‘guard’ from Manus Island who warned us that if we took in refugees we would be asking for trouble…

An odd bit of state propaganda popped up on Radio NZ last week. They interviewed a ‘guard’ from Manus Island who warned us that if we took in refugees we would be asking for trouble…

A New Zealand man who worked at the Manus Island refugee detention facility is warning the government against taking any refugees, saying the ones still at the centre are dangerous men.  

…this follows a direct threat from Australia that if we negotiate with PNG directly to help these desperate refugees, then there would be ‘consequences’…

Australian Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has opened the door to a potential refugee resettlement deal between New Zealand and Papua New Guinea, acknowledging it is a decision for the two sovereign states that Australia could not block.

But he warned any arrangement would be against Australia’s wishes and would run the risk of souring both countries’ diplomatic relationships with Australia – making it unlikely without Canberra’s blessing.

…let’s put aside the outrageous and direct threat to us from Australia and ask why would any NZer believe what a guard from Manus Island has to say about the refugees being detained there?

Report after report after report have surfaced that show the Guards have a long history of beating, torturing and sexually abusing the refugees…

Disturbing allegations of regular beatings, racist slurs and unwanted sexual advances by G4S guards on Manus Island have been made by a former Salvation Army worker.

Nicole Judge, a worker on the island, said she was “shocked and distressed” at the conditions on Manus Island when she arrived in September last year to work in a general support role.

…so what Radio NZ are asking us to believe is that member of staff from a group with a long history of abusing refugees should be listened to when they warn us we shouldn’t take any.

It’s like taking vacation advice from the Captain of the Titanic.

 

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12 Comments

  1. jhon oliver says:

    You bet a guard in Auschwitz will give the same warning, too bad NZ journalist are so ignorant of history, politics and culture in the world outside their sparkling little office, but still, this is the best kind of journalism you will get in new zealand and you should be used to it now, it has always been like that, why do you complained?

  2. Steve King says:

    Yes i heard the interview and I thought the same thing.

  3. Tom Gardner says:

    The first duty of a state is to the protection of its own citizens. It is just not worth the risk (and bear in mind the recent case* of the Somali refugee convicted of rape, but ” the legal standard [for deportation] had not been met” — we are, apparently, stuck with him). Jacinda needs to direct her energies closer to home.

    *www.stuff.co.nz/national/98686201/refugee-considered-dangerous-enough-to-deport-could-soon-be-back-on-the-streets

  4. Samwise says:

    Ditto, I heard the two interviews as well. It’s a put up con job . Especially when the first “security guard” made a derisory comment against Jacinta Arden . Kinda gave it away right there.

  5. Hemi says:

    Yes. Pathetic attempt and badly played.

  6. ALH84001 says:

    What a coincidence that these so-called “security guards” are popping up now. Yeah, coincidence.

  7. MICHAEL says:

    Martyn
    You write so much about how important RNZ is and how it can speak truth to power but seem now to be upset when they run something you don’t like. Even if 20% of what he said was correct then this should give the government pause.

  8. Historian Pete says:

    A couple of days ago I listened to the radio broadcast and thought that the person interviewed seemed to have thought processes that would be unusual in someone doing a job as a security guard on Manus Island.As well he seemed to be schooled in his answers.I smelled a rat.And I believe it is not the first time that the Australian Govt have produced a bogus witness at a convenient moment.Australian Governments are very admiring of the U.S. and see themselves as The U.S.deputy dog of the Pacific.It is hardly surprising that they would emulate their hero and indulge in fake news/false flag incidents.As for the allegations of sexual offences against the local population by the refugees, why have there been no convictions?
    To my mind we are perhaps back to why they are there in the first place? And the answer is that they are there because of US! Us being the Western Alliance that has perpetrated regime change on countries like Libya, that was the most prosperous country on the whole African continent until we brought it freedom and democracy and turned it into a hellhole!We have done the same to Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria,Yemen, and as we speak are building 42 U.S. Empire military bases in Africa to continue the predatory process. They are not the culprits, they are the victims. We with our marvellous Western civilization need only look in the mirror to see who is ultimately responsible!!!

  9. Siobhan says:

    The interview I heard on RNZ had a guard making claims about sex with ‘underage girls’. But then went on to explain this was occurring at a brothel.
    Now, I’m not suggesting having underage girls working is good, but if thats whats happening at a legitimate business, then thats whats happening.
    Presumably the refugees are not the only clients the girls see.
    They may even have guards as clients.
    The interviewer ( I think it was Guyon) chose not to ask this pertinent question.
    Furthermore there was no definition of what is considered ‘underage’ on Manus, but either way, its their country and their laws, so that’s that. If we have an issue with their ‘sex trade’ then we need to worry about all aspects and clients.
    and don’t get me started on this bizarre notion that these men should be denied the opportunity to be sexually active indefinitely and for absolutely no legal or moral reason…

    • Priss says:

      ” Now, I’m not suggesting having underage girls working is good, but if thats whats happening at a legitimate business, then thats whats happening.”

      hat so-called security guard showed crass hypocrisy in his character assassination of the Manus Island refugees. Let’s assume for a moment that he was correct that some men went to a brothel and gambled.

      How is that different to New Zealand where we have Skycity, other casinos, pokie machines situated in low-income regions, and where prostitution is perfectly legal?

      That’s where is argument collapsed completed, when he got all “judgie”.

  10. G.A.P. says:

    100% Pete, or in the words of a very good cartoon, “Mars has oil? sounds like Mars needs some democracy”

  11. Cassie says:

    YOU ARE ALL BEING PLAYED.
    ASK YOURSELVES- WHY is THIS SUDDENLY AN “ISSUE” in NZ?

    THIS is how it starts…
    Sympathy bled from Western nation ( ONLY)

    1)THEN it’s “INCREASE REFUGEE QUOTA” (Population gives CONSENT)
    2) . “REFUGEES WELCOME” Flags waved by naive & stupid
    3) IN THEY COME. MOSLY MEN.
    4) FOLLOWED BY HOARDS of others.. later from other places.
    5) The beginning of the END.

    CHECK OUT USA, GERMANY, UK, IRELAND, FRANCE, GREECE, ITALY …

    ALL BEING INVADED / DESTROYED/ TAKEN OVER BY HOARDS of FOREIGN (NOT “refugees” ..but MIGRANTS. DELIBERATELY LET IN.
    AUSTRALIA – Already STARTED.
    THE MSM shows NOTHING of the TRUE REALITY HAPPENING.
    Meantime -RAPES, VIOLENCE , CRIMES going UP & UP.
    -MEDIA REPORTS NOTHING about it. THEY LIE. HIDE TRUTH.

    SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
    Just you WAIT…
    ADHERN -just another TRAITOR PLANTED. .
    WHY do you suppose SHE is getting involved in this?? It’s a RUSE.

    YOU JUST WAIT…