Let’s seriously consider David Farrar’s offer to the Greens and laugh and laugh and laugh


David Farrar has posted his love letter to the Greens and has promised them the world trying to woo them into a political orgy that they would never ever recover from and Stacey Kirk has dutifully parroted this right wing fantasy by expanding on the supposed ‘wins’ the Greens could gain from going into Government with National...

National Party pollster David Farrar has “speculated” on what the Greens could potentially get from National in an abstention deal – purely for their vote on confidence and supply.  

That could buy the Greens $1 billion over ten years for cycleways, their levy on nitrate pollution, a South Taranaki Whale Sanctuary, a levy on plastic bags, an accelerated timetable for rail to Auckland Airport, doubling the funding for the Department of Conservation, and still find another $65m a year for the Predator Free New Zealand initiative. 

It doesn’t end there: stricter water quality standards to ensure 70 per cent of New Zealand’s water were lifted to “excellent” status, a commitment to double the reduction of children in poverty from 50,000 to 100,000 and to double the reduction target for greenhouse gas emissions by 2030 from 11 per cent to 22 per cent. 

…so the bribes for the Greens are…

  • $1billion over a decade for cycleways
  • nitrate levy
  • Whale sanctuary
  • plastic bag levy
  • accelerated timetable for rail to Auckland Airport
  • doubling funding for DoC
  • $65million for predator eradication
  • ‘stricter’ water quality standards
  • lifting 100 000 kids out of poverty
  • doubling the reduction target for greenhouse gas emissions

…it sounds pretty good doesn’t it? Plastic bag taxes, a whale sanctuary, lifting kids out of poverty, doubling funding for Department of Conservation, at first blush there seems to be a lot here that should demand the Greens seriously consider it.

At first blush that illusion holds, however scratch beneath Farrar’s carefully crafted offer and the entire concept unravels.

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First, let’s just eliminate some of those issues. A whale sanctuary, accelerated timetable for rail to Auckland Airport, lifting 100 000 kids out of poverty and doubling reduction target for greenhouse gas emissions – these shouldn’t be the booty for horse trading, those things are what any fucking Government should be doing! What other job does a Government have that’s more important than lifting kids out of poverty, protecting endangered species, infrastructure investment to keep up with mass immigration and genuine climate change policy?

That’s like being asked to pay an extra fee to have the pilot land the plane after taking off. Half of that list that Farrar is offering as some type of grand gesture is shit National should be doing anyway!

Take the whale sanctuary, why the fuck wouldn’t you just want to do that? Who the fuck uses the suffering and slaughter of whales as  a bargaining chip in political negotiations?

Surely someone who is prepared to hold whales hostage for political gain isn’t someone you want to actually negotiate with.


Secondly, let’s just remind ourselves that National’s real trick in power has been to manipulate stats to hide the true draconian nature of their policy agendas. How could the Greens take any agreement by National at face value when National are more focused on hiding the results of their policy rather than  admit failure. Remember how National manipulate and spin results?

  • Social Housing:

To make it look like the National Government are doing something about the homelessness crisis caused by the lack of social services and state houses, National have cleverly manipulated the way people can get onto the waiting lists to make it look like the waiting lists are actually shrinking…

Government manipulating social housing data – Child Poverty Action Group

An anti-poverty group says the Government is manipulating data on social housing.

The Government is pledging to reduce the time it takes to place people in state housing by 20 percent, as part of its Better Public Service targets.

Child Poverty Action Group housing spokesman Alan Johnson said the Government has made it harder for people to get on waiting lists, and people are discouraged from applying.

“Basically the target is about the waiting list and how long people spend on the waiting list.”

Mr Johnson believes that the waiting lists are being tampered with.

“We believe that … there is evidence of those lists being manipulated by the Government officials who are responsible for them.”

…by discouraging the poor from getting onto waiting lists and making those waiting lists even more difficult to get onto in the first place does nothing whatsoever to make the lives of those people better, it just hides the damage the National Government are causing.

  • Charter school lies:

The National Government are actively running a misinformation campaign to hide how much money Charter Schools are getting while hiding the results…

The Charter School Performance Cover Up

The major problem relates to the issue which surfaced last year, when the Ministry acknowledged that the interpretation of the secondary schools’ contract performance standards had been incorrect. As a consequence, the schools had also reported incorrectly against their contracts.

These incorrect figures had been used to determine the Ministry’s ratings in its May 2016 advice, referred to in the footnote. While the Ministry has now acknowledged that these figures are incorrect, nothing further has since been released.

The poor performance of the primary and middle schools is also evident in the Evaluation Report. Of the five primary and middle schools, which have contract targets set against National Standards, only one school, the Rise Up Academy, was assessed as having Met its contract targets.

And problems are also clearly evident in the assessment of performance against the Student Engagement standards. Vanguard Military School and Middle School West Auckland performed very poorly against the standards for Stand-downs, Suspensions, Exclusions and Expulsions.

Overall, the main takeaway from the Evaluation Report is a fairly damning indictment of performance to date.

But the continued cover up of the true picture should not be tolerated any longer.

…the National Government see Teachers as taxi drivers in an uber world, and believe they could dramatically slash education costs through charter schools hiring untrained teachers and by pushing education provision online. The National Government are hiding the failures of charter schools so that the anti-teacher beliefs underpinning their education policy won’t be challenged.

  • Prison reoffending:

Government walk away from their self created prison horror

the National Government who had ACC invest in 30% of the private prison at Wiri and who brought private prisons into NZ and who had to remove Mt Eden from their control after corruption and violence issues have now quietly removed the reoffending rates as a measure of success???

What a gutless back down!

National set 25% as their target to reduce reoffending and could barely get 4.5%. They sold the neoliberal private prison reforms on how amazing they would be to reduce reoffending, the truth is they have failed abysmally and the National Government will now hide the stats so NZers can’t see how much of a failure they have created.

…the National Government have lied about the good their neoliberal prison system could create and are now hiding that failure. This should be front page news and an outrage, but it’s not because the voters have been so conditioned to hate prisoners by a mainstream media who make ratings from that hate that they can’t see the human beings for the bars.

  • Beneficiaries are druggies:

In the above cases, the National Government manipulate or hide the stats to get their neoliberal experiments through, but in this stat all the National Government can do is actually lie about the stats. Remember when Bill English justified his open floodgate immigration policy because Kiwi workers were just too stoned to work…

Bill English says employers are regularly telling him that Kiwis can’t pass drug tests

Prime Minister Bill English is blaming young Kiwis inability to pass a workplace drug test as one of the reasons why overseas workers are needed.

English’s comments come on the back of record highs for immigration after it was revealed on Monday 71,300 more migrants had arrived in New Zealand than left in the year to January.

Speaking at his weekly media conference English said two or three business owners a week told him about the difficulty in getting Kiwi workers who apply for jobs to pass a drug test.

…turns out that claim is just more beneficiary bashing…

Few beneficiaries fail pre-employment drug tests

In the last six months of 2016, more than 18,000 beneficiaries were sent for drug tests and 80 failed.

The Ministry of Social Development said the number of failed tests included cases where beneficiaries didn’t turn up to be tested.

It said only 54 sanctions were applied to peoples’ benefits for failing the test.

Over the previous three years, nearly 95,000 beneficiaries were drug tested – and only 450 failed or didn’t turn up.

That’s a failure rate of one in every 200.

In February, the Prime Minister, Bill English, defended record immigration levels saying businesses keep telling him that New Zealanders aren’t passing drug tests and jobs can’t be filled locally.

…so it’s all a big lie English has used because the beneficiary bashing has created a culture where we happily believe the worst about them so we can smugly agree with the cruelty they are forced to endure.

So when Farrar promises nitrate level reductions, water quality measures and other aspirational targets that rely on honest empirical evidence, National’s track record in Government has been deceit, manipulation and falsehoods.

They lied directly to the NZ public over an $11.7billion dollar hole that didn’t exist and claimed income taxes would rise under Labour on the campaign trail – why would you trust liars who have a track record of deception?


Finally,  while Farrar is promising symbolic gestures, let’s cut to the values under those gestures and this list does that well…

…the only scenario where the Greens join the National Party is if Hitler resurrects from the grave with a legion of Nazi zombies and declares an ecological war against the Amazon rain forest.

Sorry David Farrar, That’s the only scenario.





  1. I get at Farrar all over the place – no more than he deserves. To me he is a little sewer rat. (That may be unfair to the rodents as they have some innocence.)

    Go easy on him for his piece yesterday about the Greens though.
    People didn’t get it, it was satire. Satire, pure, simple, and outrageously taking the piss.

    • Farrar is a sick joke allright.

      ‘demented’ is the word that comes to mind.

      His name is hardly worth a mention so I use it as seldom as possile in my writtings now.

      • You’re right , CLEANGREEN , … and so is Martyn !

        I liked this bit :

        … ” A whale sanctuary, accelerated timetable for rail to Auckland Airport, lifting 100 000 kids out of poverty and doubling reduction target for greenhouse gas emissions – THESE SHOULDN’T BE THE BOOTY FOR HORSE TRADING , THOSE THINGS ARE WHAT ANY FUCKING GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING ! What other job does a Government have that’s more important than lifting kids out of poverty, protecting endangered species, infrastructure investment to keep up with mass immigration and genuine climate change policy? ” …

        Bloody wankers , – and that includes Farrar.

        TOO LITTLE , – AND FAR TO FUCKING LATE , National.

        Piss the hell off !!!

        • +100…the cynicism of these political operators takes your breath away

          Farrar thinks that because he went to Nepal in his shorts he is a Greenie….and did I hear Hooton say who cares about NZ rivers?…he prefers rivers in Nepal?….(words to that effect anyway on his infamous slot on nine-to-noon)

      • Yes Cleangreen. Farrar is in fact just like the blue Kermit, just a mouthpiece with someone else hand up his arse!

    • Yes , but unfortunately the neo liberal pricks have been taking the piss for nigh on 33 years,… my generation took the brunt of their shit ,… but I sure as hell wont let them shit all over my 21 year old son and his generation.

      They want a war?

      There’s plenty of us just itching to give them one.

      They can go and get fucked. And btw : Proud of the teachers union today and their meeting in Rotorua.

      …. There’s going to be a few changes around here from now on, – and they better start get used to it ….


      • +100…Jim Bolger is another who is trying to woo ( intimidate, guilt trip lure, bully)the Greens into coalition with National

        ….he deserves contempt for his hypocrisy…he was the National MP and PM who stood on smashing the unions…New Zealand has never recovered from his reign

  2. I think I can see through all the smoke screens here.
    The political right have no intention of going into coalition with the Greens at all.
    What they want is to wind up the Greens so much that they start spitting venom at National and appear petulant in the media, so National can say to Winston Peters “look what you will have to put up with if you go with Labour, come with us and you won’t have to worry about a thing, trust us…”
    The best thing the Greens can do is simply ignore National, don’t get involved in any tit-for-tat. National are not serious and Farrar is totally deluded if he thinks they are.
    National are apparently extremely worried.

    • Good lateral thinking, MIKE THE LEFTY !

      When dealing with these National inner circle pricks ( and I always include the New Zealand Initiative among those chief pricks ) , … it is ALWAYS prudent to view this as how they view it , – as engaged in a literal war.

      Because we ARE in a war. A war for hearts and minds.

      And lets never forget , – it was the neo liberal element that started this war. And Kiwi fair play is going to finish it. Even if that means some are going to get slapped over their fingers in the process.

      But change , IT WILL.

      And for an expose’ of who the neo liberals are and how they like to operate ? , none can be so graphic as the writings of New Zealander Hugh Price of Hugh Price Publishers. It is all there in black and white for you to learn from.

      Want to understand whats going on and its origins ?


      New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?

    • Shouldn’t have laughed as hard as I did when reading the bit about what government should be fucking doing. Sorry not sorry.

      • +100…ridiculous to suggest Farrar is anything like Bannon….Farrar is a clown not a patriot or a polymath

        • “Patriotism” -the last refuge of the scoundrel? Many crimes and abuses have been committed in the name of “patriotism”.

          No doubt Nixon thought he was a “patriot”, right up to the end, before he was forced to resign for breaking the law.

          • likewise

            “Religion” -the last refuge of the scoundrel? Many crimes and abuses have been committed in the name of “Religion”.

            …and “Greed”

            …and “Sexism”

            …and “Misogyny ”

            …and “Racism”

        • So now there is a Bannon-sympathizing element in the NZ Left.

          We blew the dog-whistle at our peril. Inadvertent, maybe. But now here we are. Thank you, Red Buzzard, for your honesty.

  3. “Purely for their vote on confidence and supply…”

    Think about it Greens, *seven whole pieces of silver*!

    You can buy a lot of baubles with seven pieces of silver. That’s a lot of cycle ways! That’s a lot of plastic bags! That’s a lot of farmers forced to dump their effluent at night from now on, instead of brazenly pumping it into the river without a care in the world!

    It will only cost you your soul. What good is a soul? What has your soul ever done for you? Most of you don’t even believe you have one. You won’t even miss it!

    Just keep thinking about what seven pieces of silver will buy you… keep dreaming of more cycle ways, ever more cycle ways… endless kilometers of them, covered with an endless peloton of bearded hipsters in their $3000 Italian kit, cycling… endlessly… where? Why, to the polls to vote Green of course!

    That’s it… that’s it… now you know what to do…. so easy… there there… just sign… sign it damn you!

  4. And tomorrow has been proclaimed as the beginning of the talks of coalition between NZF and National and after with Labour, so we will all be ears for any agreements/gunshots or emergency sirens.

    I hope NZF goes with Labour and Greens as we cannot afford another three years of the destructive Nats’.

    Best of British Winston.

  5. During the recent election I started reading articles from the daily blog, as no where else could I find balance to the right wing media which unfortunately as it was shown has such a strong influence over many NZers. I hope this reality is dawning on the general public!

    In the meantime ‘Viva la daily blog’

  6. There are lots of us out there who would vote Green if it wasn’t for the socialist parasites who have attached themselves to the environmental movement.

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