Obama and Hillary didn’t make ISIS – America did

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Martyn Bradbury
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Trump’s claims that Hillary and Obama created ISIS (a statement he now claims was sarcasm) misses the target.

Obama and Hillary didn’t create ISIS – America created ISIS.

Invading Iraq for weapons of mass destruction that never existed from a Dictator who was a previous CIA client, propping up a corrupt Iraqi Government who only stoked the tribal and religious schisms, torturing Iraqi Officers in American Iraqi prisons and the vacuum created by the lack of leadership in Syria and the pull out in Iraq created this.

It was the destabilisation that America created with their invasion that spawned ISIS.

If we want to have less monsters running around causing violence, perhaps the West should stop making the environments where these monsters are made.

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23 COMMENTS

  1. In much the same way that America created Al Qaida.

    The US is probably still funding both. It’s definitely supplying weapons to both.

    There was only one fly in the ointment: Putin, who wouldn’t play the game the way the neocons wanted it played. But now there are two, since China is, for the first time ever, taking an active role in the region:

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/356281-isis-china-russia-iran-syria/

    It all goes back to the Carter doctrine, of course:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Doctrine

    And before that the Anglo-Persian Oil Company and the toppling of the Mossadegh government in 1953 etc.

    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php

    (How did our oil end up under their sand?)

  2. No, you are wrong Bomber. America was promoting “freedom and democracy” when it invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. /sarc.

    • Please ask Kieran Kelly for a scholarly, well – referenced article which will show how US weapons vendors lobbied and arranged to –

      #sell weapons to the US army

      # have US army leave some behind for ISIS to collect

      # sell more weapons to US army

      # start next war

      # lie about terrorist attacks

      # sell more weapons to US army

      # etc

    • I lived with army folks in Canada and NZ where some were involved with Arabs during the last war and The Suez Crisis, 1956 and in both cases they said the weapon of war amongst the Arab nation is the “art of deception”
      s westerners just cant seem to get that through ton understand.

      You saw it in Iraq and Afghanistan where we went in for over ten years and settled the region’s down and left and then they reverted to the past again.

      SO THEY ALWAYS SAID TO ME, JUST LEAVE THEM BE, AS YOU JUST CANT CHANGE THE ESSENCE OF THE ARAB RACE,

    • I think Hillary is a bigger risk than Trump. Trump is an unknown I agree but he has shown some inclination to talk with Russia, something Obama has refused to do (about nuclear matters anyway) Hillary is clearly the chosen candidate of the military industrial complex and she is as duplicitous as they come. She flip flopped to opposing the TPPA, because Bernie Sanders was getting a lot of traction on that issue, but she has since chosen a pro TPPA vice president and a pro TPPA organiser of her team when she gets into government so we can see where that will end up. She has described Putin as a thug but any thoughtful analysis of Putin shows him to be a strong advocate for Russia and humanity in general unlike Hillary Clinton.
      Putin enjoys a terrible press in the west but anyone who is interested in a more truthful perspective on the man could start with:
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/12/AR2007021200555.html

  4. We knew friends and the wife had been brought up in India as her father was in the British Army out there. They spent their summers in Simla in the hills for the cooler weather. Her father used to go back to UK with the family from time to time and his Batman would bring their trunks and luggage down to the wharf. The father once asked him “what would he be doing while they were away” and the Afghani Batman replied ” why, I will be up in the hills shooting you English men that’s what I will do doing”.

    The friend said to me the Europeans will never be able to subdue the Afghans, she said they were magnificent people and could live in the hills and fight like hell and the British would never stand a chance out there. This was back in the 1920’s and 1930’s. They are running rings around the West all for the sake of oil. What a waste of lives all for the sake of resources the West want to claim as their own. Right back to the Crusades the West has tried to meddle with the Middle East and it has got them nowhere. Now we have a terrible mess out there and its basically through our interference with their affairs.

  5. ISIS and Anti ISIS, where is the damned difference?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/04/arizona-pastor-publicly-supports-death-by-stoning-for-homosexuals/

    https://thechurchoftruth.org/kill-non-believers-by-stoning/

    The Iranians do it too:
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/iran-stoning-execution-woman-death-human-rights-day-barack-obama-nuclear-deal-152311/

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/anti_gay_tennessee_pastor_laments_liberal_society_has_banned_stoning_of_gays

    Oh, God, let us all get “stoned”, but in a different, peaceful way, perhaps?!

  6. I found this link interesting that few IS fighters know anything about Islam: http://wakeup-world.com/2016/08/20/leaked-documents-reveal-isis-recruits-know-little-of-islam-ordered-koran-for-dummies/?utm_campaign=Wake+Up+World+e-Newsletter&utm_content=Latest+Headlines+inc.+A+Comprehensive+Guide+to+the+Emotional+Freedom+Technique+%28EFT%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=getresponse
    It seems to me that Bush, Clinton, Cheney, Rumsfeld and McCain were (are) the architects of ISIS.

  7. By the way, wasn’t it Republican president, George ‘Dubya’ Bush who invaded Iraq in 2003?

    Well, I just checked my memory and gosh darn, YES IT WAS ‘DUBYA”!!

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