NZ’s green brand is 100% pure hypocrisy and science continues to be gagged

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Our 100% pure brand is a sad sick joke.

Dairy intensification pollutes rivers, we generate huge amounts of global warming emissions and we allow deep sea oil drilling.

But it gets worse.

We now know that there has been grotesque over fishing over the last 60 years...

The Green Party is calling for more government observers on commercial fishing vessels and at ports following the release of an international study showing major under-reporting of commercial fish catches in New Zealand waters.

“The Government can’t claim that our fisheries management is sustainable when it clearly has no idea how many fish are being taken,” said Green Party primary industries spokesperson Eugenie Sage.

A new report by the University of British Columbia, with research from the University of Auckland, shows more than twice the number of marine fish have been caught in New Zealand waters between 1950 and 2010 than Government and industry statistics suggest.

The study says fish are being caught and then dumped at sea because they’re under or over-sized, have low market value, or simply because the fishing vessel doesn’t have enough space in the hold. It says there has been “deliberate, widespread and systematic under-reporting of commercial catch”.

…the response by the Government has been to attack the science behind this report, which is of itself sadly not unusual. More and more scientists in NZ are complaining that they are being threatened and gagged if their science goes against the right wing mythology of the National Government.

We are decimating our fish stocks, destroying our water quality, polluting our rivers and are shutting down the scientists pointing this out to us.

 

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32 COMMENTS

  1. As a species, our stupidity is surpassed only by our ability to keep the majority unaware of it.

    Marketers ruling the news media bear a lot of responsibility… as do the self-interested profit-gougers who determine the level of honesty in our politics, media and commercial practice.

    Or rather, the lack thereof.

  2. Yes, this proves yet again, what I had long suspected.

    Government statistics are as reliable as as John Key is when claiming he is telling the truth.

    With a tiny navy where much of the fleet is moored in the harbours most of the time, as they have not got the money fixing things or even manning the vessels, there is insufficient in the way of patrolling that goes on.

    I hear they now have on board cameras, but that is not on all fishing vessels.

    There are many overseas ships, possibly some New Zealand ones also, that rip the shit out of the fish stocks, and while some gets dumped again as too small, other catch may go offshore without proper, reliable records.

    This reveals yet again, we are for sale, everything here and around our shores has endless invisible “For Sale” signs stuck on it, the government is desperate to fake economic growth and success, while we sell the floor boards from our homes to overseas buyers and investors.

    Welcome to being a tenant in your own land, it is getting worse by the day. Sustainability, yeah right, the PM’s bank balance and well stocked financial trusts are sustainable as long as the ripping off continues.

  3. And the paediatrician who hold title as Govt Science advisor says nothing.

    The pick their stooges carefully.

    The only time he has anything to say is when called upon to promoted Govt neoliberal to hell with NZ propaganda.

    • Are you talking about Gluckman, that Chief Science Advisor to the PM?

      Hah, he is a hypocrite and has long ago distanced himself from holding any responsibility, he is only an advisor, and that is all he does, whether the government cares to listen or not, that is up to them, he once commented.

      By the way, he was the man who invited Prof. Mansel Aylward to New Zealand to present his “research” on “Growing Up in New Zealand” (focused on kids here). What many do not know so much about is, he was also a main advisor to the government on welfare reforms. He has been very controversial in the UK, just search for his name, and disability advocates there have no good word to say about that man.

      Here are some OIA questions and answers, the latter presented by MSD, and you can read in the answer from 27 Feb. 2014, under ‘Dr Bratt and other practitioners’ (see attached PDF, one of the links will show), that Gluckman invited Aylward here, who now works closely with MSD’s Principal Health Advisor Dr Bratt to move sick and disabled off benefits here:

      https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/msd-o-i-a-rqst-re-dr-bratt-presentations-contacts-anon-ltr-w-questions-16-01-14.pdf
      https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/msd-o-i-a-rqst-re-dr-bratt-presentations-contacts-anon-16-01-reply-by-ce-27-02-14.pdf
      https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/msd-o-i-a-rqst-re-dr-bratt-presentations-contacts-anon-16-01-further-reply-12-11-14.pdf

      The further reply from 12 Nov. 2014 also reveals that a “survey” Bratt used, was not even a proper, scientific survey at all, although he commented in media and in MSD supported presentations, as if they were solid scientific findings, the results of one GP survey he conducted.

      This government just picks the “science” that suits its interests, and dismisses findings it does not like.

      Gluckman is not worthy to be Advisor to the PM, or rather the PM is not worthy having him as Advisor, as he ignores him anyway. It is all just endless BS we get under Key and gang.

      • So here is some interesting stuff to read from the New Zealand Medical Association website:

        https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/read-the-journal/all-issues/2010-2019/2015/vol-128-no-1425-20-november-2015/6729

        “Is the statement that if a person is off work for 70 days the chance of ever getting back to work is 35% justified?”

        “The incorrect statements about the chance of ever getting back to work are being presented to general practitioners (GPs) continuing medical education conferences in the context certifying people as unfit for work, together with statements like the ‘benefit’ is “an addictive debilitating drug with significant adverse effects to both the patient and their family (whānau)”.13 They are being presented to GPs in the context of assisting patients to safely stay at work or return to work early.4 These appear to be encouraging GPs to assess injured and unwell patients as having capacity for work and not issuing medical certificates for work incapacity. This could result in the cessation of welfare benefits or injury compensation. When these patients lack the capacity to work, they could experience increased financial hardship. For example, people might move from injury compensation to an unemployment benefit, and those without benefit entitlements to no income.”

        Read the whole lot, it proves that we are served endless BS with the “science” they use to justify assessing many seriously sick and disabled as “fit for work”, even when they have no realistic chance of getting a job.

        Dr Bratt, Principal Health Advisor at MSD and for WINZ and his master lecturer Mansel Aylward have been exposed, yet again.

  4. ” The study says fish are being caught and then dumped at sea because they’re under or over-sized, have low market value, or simply because the fishing vessel doesn’t have enough space in the hold. It says there has been “deliberate, widespread and systematic under-reporting of commercial catch”.

    I heard it was all those recreational fishers over there at Mission Bay taking all the piper fish that’s the problem…

    ” …the response by the Government has been to attack the science behind this report, which is of itself sadly not unusual. More and more scientists in NZ are complaining that they are being threatened and gagged if their science goes against the right wing mythology of the National Government. ”

    Ha!… those scientists problem is that they aren’t music lovers !!!

    Here’s one from Richard Wagner to show you what I mean…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU

  5. Nothing will change until ‘they’ are gone.
    High house prices or not – middle NZ must see the Nats are destroying their country/ oceans/rivers and the list goes on…and on and on…..

    • They?

      If take a close look, you’ll see this was going on long before JK was Prime Minister.

      Bear in mind this current government is pushing to get more marine sanctuaries established, with our Maori ‘custodians of nature’ trying to block them. 😉

      Also bear in mind this current government has forced the fishing fleet to be registered in NZ and thus comply with NZ health & safety law, a move which was also protested by Maori fishing interests at the time.

      The real problem: Crooked fishing companies who need far closer oversight.

      • “Also bear in mind this current government has forced the fishing fleet to be registered in NZ and thus comply with NZ health & safety law, a move which was also protested by Maori fishing interests at the time.”

        Yeah, bear in mind also, this government committed itself to the emissions trading scheme and allowed dodgy dodgy deals with credits from Ukraine and Russia:
        http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/climate-change-paris-agreement-signed-video-6464414

        They may sign up to commit to stuff and comply with rules, but often enough they do not seem to bother sticking to agreements.

        • I should point out that Andrew does not have reputable opinions of Maori issues. His just male pale and stale like the rest of National and act

  6. Did I hear one of the clowns saying the fact the fishery has been over fished for so long is an indicator that maybe the fishery has more fish than has been calculated, so all good.
    Its all our faults in the end, if there weren’t so many of us there would be more fish.
    Kind of like sitting in a traffic jamb complaining about all the traffic.
    We are all part of the problem.

    • Yes Robert – too many humans – too many greedy humans addicted to believing lies , accepting growth mantra for banks continued raping of our society and environment.

      Too many humans plainly yet we disincentivise population reduction by bringing more people here , more consumption, more bankers profits, mor4e environmental destruction less remaining non renewable Resources. On top of that imported junk and waste including vehicles designed for a short wasteful life.

      Fishing has been largely captured by transnational interests so destruction of fish stock with only crumbs for NZ and high prices for the NZ consumer. Our local stocks are now a residual shadow of a generation ago. Big money and corruption has seen to that

  7. National: the criminal gang that promotes looting and polluting, completely disregards the needs of the next generation, lies about it all, and attempts to establish NZ as a truth-free zone.

    The new National rallying call: “Fuck the Future.” (and suppress the truth)

    Unfortunately, National have quite a lot of support for their toxic, unsustainable, suicidal agenda.

    Meanwhile, everything is turning to custard at an ever faster pace.

    ‘The latest figures smashed the previous record for April by the largest margin ever recorded.

    It makes three months in a row that the monthly record has been broken by the largest margin ever, and seven months in a row that are at least 1C above the 1951-80 mean for that month. When the string of record-smashing months started in February, scientists began talking about a “climate emergency”.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/16/april-third-month-in-row-to-break-global-temperature-records

    Lowest ice cover ever, and a ‘blue ocean’ event on the horizon.

    https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/vishop-extent.html

    National’s response to planetary meltdown?

    “Burn more coal”:

    http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2016/05/new-zealands-increasing-use-of-fossil.html

  8. ‘New Zealanders know the power of national utterances; we live by “clean and green” and “a great place to raise kids”.

    Then there is the one favoured by politicians: “New Zealand’s world-leading fish quota scheme”. Like the others, it turned out to be false.

    An academic report out today (media release) shows the quota system has failed – and may have even drifted into the realm of the criminal. It reveals that the total amount of marine fish caught in New Zealand waters between 1950 and 2010 is an astounding 2.7 times more than that recorded by official statistics.’

    http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2016/05/nzs-rape-of-fisheries.html

  9. I think that what bothers me most about these issues, including the fishing report, is that government spokespeople almost ritually go for the line that ‘saying or admitting to wrong will damage NZ Inc’s reputation as decent place’. The trouble is it reveals EXACTLY the reason why reports like this come as a ‘shock’ to the media and actually degrades the so-called “clean- green, corruption free (Ha! I could tell you a few things about corruption in governmental organisations that would make your hair curl) image.

    • ‘Ha! I could tell you a few things about corruption in governmental organisations that would make your hair curl’

      Exactly. It would take about a month to go through my list of the corruption and lies that characterise the district council and regional council.

      There is no other way of saying it: we are governed by criminals, and most government organisations -especially city, district and regional councils- are ROTTEEN TO THE CORE. It’s all about establishing and maintaining rorts, and lying to the general populace on a continuous basis in order to prevent exposure

      The consequences are already dire but ‘nobody’ cares, so the process of self-annihilation will continue until it all ‘implodes’.

      It seems that we don’t have until the end of ‘everything’ -a decade or two- now that atmospheric CO2 is 130ppm above pre-industrial and rising at an unprecedented rate, and Planetary Meltdown is accelerating. The mendacious arseholes who have been misleading the populace will soon have nowhere to run.

      NSIDC is back:

      http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/

      (more than 3 standard deviations below normal, and declining rapidly)

  10. Martyn your very best yet!!!

    You deserve an award for your deep insights here, as this is our most urgent issue facing our nation because what we allow to continue wilkl wind up killing us all.

    Question 1/ Where is the PM Shonkey’s own Scientist Key bought as a play-thing all those years ago?

    Remember he was to be PM Key’s own personal “chief scientific advisor”!!!

    I seem to recall his name was Peter Gluckman or something like that?

    Haven’t heard from him since Adam was a boy, – has he any conscience for doing nothing?

    So where has he gone with his head bowed shamefully, with his fist clutched full of our precious sparse taxpayers dollars?

    What has he done to try and turn this pollution juganought around before we are all doomed???

    What a sick joke is the right term here.

    Put this as a subject on your excellent 5th estate show mate please.

    Please highlight and ask why the government aren’t saving our severely underfunded declining rail – when rail could save our lakes, rivers quality of water pollution from expanding truck road pollution runoff of diesel and tyre dust pollution as trucks are increasing at a 6% every year now, that runoff pollution is now entering our waterways and rivers/oceans NIWA has warned?

  11. In most cases, science is about fact, something FJK and his corrupt band of degenerates want to avoid at all cost.

    Not good for NatzKEY to have the masses too informed.

    The same masses might start asking questions and stumble upon some facts and truths for a change.

    Fact and truth are not good for NatzKEY. So science remains gagged while this gang of reprobates remain in power!

  12. I just came back from a walk down a local beach by the Heads just inside the Otago harbour. At one end, within a ten metre stretch, I saw a dead little shark, a dead adult fur seal, and a dead shag. Looking up into the harbour entrance was the dredge boat sucking up the sea floor. This beach has massive erosion also. I bet the shark, seal and shag didn’t die of old age, I was thinking while walking home that must only be a luxury for ‘civilized’ humans now, a nice long time for humans to watch the shit hit the fan on planet Earth. I wonder when the penny will drop for the clueless morons, we could seriously see the whole lot end. I wonder will we eat each other? Make up recipes for eating each other because we will be the only species left with a huge population of meat? It seems like, if John Key said eat the poor it would start a new industry with bells and whistles and knighthoods. But there is a movie is called Eat The Rich and it was hilarious! I think it would be fun to throw rich peoples carcasses to feed the Polar Bears. I would rather see rich people go extinct than Polar Bears, let’s start with Key and the rest of his fat party.

  13. Actually the Greens need to catch up with the 21st century: We don’t need more inspectors on fishing vessels because we can equip them all with 24hr surveillance cameras that cover the working deck and require that fishing stops if they become ‘accidentally damaged’ (ie deliberately put out of action)

    It’s been an open secret for decades that there are lots of dodgy things go on and that the industry is run by mongrels: More scrutiny is needed.

    • You are a dead set idiot did you know that?

      There are 1300 fishing vessels on the water every year for 3 months per vessel, you’l end up with 52.5 million hours of tape to store, watch and monitor every year.

      Are you over your little geek out moment? Pull your head in

    • The Green Party is a standing joke amongst REAL environmentalists because the Greens just want to continue the disruption/destruction of the vital life-support systems that make life on Earth possible, and pretend that slight tweaking of the system is going to make a difference as we head straight off the cliff at an ever faster pace.

      Next year atmospheric CO2 will seasonally peak at around 413 ppm, and in 2018 it will seasonally peak at around 418 ppm, and the Planetary Meltdown will just keep on accelerating. And presumably, unless someone in parliament suddenly grows a spine, the Greens (and everyone else) will still be promoting slight tweaking of the economic arrangements that are rapidly destroying everything that matters.

      https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_two_years.png

      Let’s face it, there is no room for truth, integrity or honesty in the corrupt political-financial-economic system we are enduring, so the next generation is condemned to scratching a living on an overheated, overpopulated, resource-depleted planet until the mass die-off commences.

      Ice-free Arctic this year?

      http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/

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